SSBA

bods will give us the Pre-TC rosters later.

David Robinson looks unbelievable

http://rosters.ssbabasketball.com/players/player206.htm

Khalid Bellamy!! Picked up the guy for 2 years at the minimum and he improves a grade in OUT (now A-) and DEF (now B) - he will see meaningful backup minutes for my club.

Evans lost an IN

Magic lost an IN and REB - the window is closing...

Borgmann lost a DEF, gained a HND - dont like it

Collins gained a DEF, now A-

Kleine lost a DEF, gained a REB (now B+/B)

Zollner gained a HND - who cares

Cliff gained a HND (who cares), lost a REB (I care)

last years 22nd pick in the 2nd round gained another OUT (B) and DEF (B-)

Reggie Lewis stayed the same

azario improved his defense
Johnson +3 as compared to pippen's +1. a little disappointed though. was expecting his handles to go up. but this makes it a lot easier for me with KJ backing up both the guard spot.
perkins +2
hernandez +1
at least tillis picked it up somehow with a +1 inside.
mills +2
my boy lee johnson with a +1.
dumars +2
elie +1
daly went down -1
trester's d down too.
Haskins +1
natt stayed the same

newcomb +1 inside -1 pot
finally Newcombs ratings are comparable to his production. he is now a guy i can build my future around
gugliotta +1 handles
hoped he would increase inside or rebounding. well he still looks like a good pickup but kyle will battle him for the C mins.
howard -1 pot
who cares he is still a monster :-)
aguire -1 def -1 pot
was hoping he would improve his defense so he could start for my team. now he will give me scoring of the bench with hopson.
shultz -1 def
would have been nice if he had kept that A+ defense but at his age it is a wonder that he is still one of the best defenders at his position.
schabi -1 pot
who cares. he can shoot and defend so he might start for me at SF.
hobson +1 inside +1 def + 1pot
that was exactly what i had hoped for after discovering his true pot. this guy will give me a great combo for the future with newcomb. will get all backup mins behind shultz in his first year.
butler -1 reb +1 pot
well glad he only lost the reb ratings. hope he will give me still his 12pts 8ass with great shooting.
mccracken +1 handling +1 def -1 reb -1 pot
nice that he finally looks like a decent backup but how in the world could you have F+ rebound ratings. i mean the guy is a big guard :-(

In fact he improved handling +2 from B to A-, and with B+ def and 6'3" could easily start for you as there's no need for offense from the point.

:lol: i have to check my database, because i thought he was already a b+ guy.
i will test him in preseason as a starter but at the moment butler will get the job.

well, not sure what to make of my TC.

The old guys got worse, hardly a surprise. But Maxi, Quincy and Tyler are still better than the rest.
The young guys gave me mixed results.

Parker Calinoff? What's wrong with this guy? +3 TC last season, -2 TC now. Does he have pot or doesn't he???
Billy Thompson? 0. Probably too few improvments to be visible, stayed pat.
Levi Divac? +2. He'll start once Tyler is gone.
Evan Hunt? +1. He'll start once Peters is gone.

Ricky Mahorn stayed the same. Fine with me.
Sid Moncrief went to A defense. Fine with me.
Kyle Tornopsky. +1 offense. I have to find a spot for him, his ratings quiety moved to Moncrief level.
Isaiah Laettner. +1 defense. This guy is BEGGING for a chance on my team. Too bad he's a 5'6" SG.

Shirley and Madsen could have a hard time making the team.

have some real competition for the starting SG spot this year.  should be interesting.  Rosow improved 2 outside ratings, which will help.  a B+ B offensive player could score 20 ppg.

Robinson got up to A+ defense, already looks like a superstar. Other then that, not much happened...

Interesting TC for the Hawks:

Bill Laimbeer (+1 in, -1 Def.)  I will take it but I don't like the thought of my starting C with B- defense

Chuck Murray (+1 def, +1 reb) Still not a starter, but might earn it depending on how Laimbeer does

Johnny Martin (-1 def) Not good for my starting PF

Brandan LaFrentz (+1 out, -1 hand) Not significant, but hopefully signifies his pot not dropping

Craig Ehlo (-1 def) Not great, I guess he's done improving, a bench player who can shoot is all he will be this year

Carlos Tower (-1 def) could be from the move to SG, I will take it, he might be a solid starter this year

Drazen Petrovic (+1 def) slowly working his way into the rotation, 1 more TC and he's ready for some minutes

Spud Webb (+1 in, +1 hand, +1 def) Great TC for Spud, if his ratings translate, he is going to give Ennis a run for his money

Scott Skiles (+1 out, +1 def) Not improving his handles pretty much seals his fate as a PG, maybe he can play some SG, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Overall not pleased, but it's my best TC in a long time, with nothing bad happening, and all the young guys keeping the A potentials.

Overall +11 and -10 in ratings.  For the most part the over 30 guys slipped and the younger guys improved slightly.  One exception...Barkley was +2 defensively. 

Otherwise...
Schmaltz loss 1 handle and 1 rebounding but should still be a solid inside scorer

My MLE & LLE big men both loss 1 rebounding - good thing I have one of the league's best rebounders in Laporte

Mitchell slipped 1 outside (still A- inside) and down 1 in rebounding

Reggie Williams (my first rounder) went up 1 outside.  B defender with C+/B offense could still develop into a solid contributer at the SF spot

Woodson slipped 1 to a B+ defensively which doesn't surprise me.  Not a great man defender but gets a couple steals a game.  Still a B-/A scorer or 21 ppg as a second option

Mateen Terpening increased 1 inside and 1 defensiverly.  This is a second rounder from 2021 who has stuck around and slowly improved.  He is now 24 and may start to see more floor time.

Fat went up 1 inside and down 1 rebounding.  Or in simple terms maintained his A+ handles and B+ defense...so who cares about the slippage.

Benoit went up 1 in handles to A- which is great for my backup PG.

White went up 1 outside and defense which is great for my other backup PG.

Preseason is going to be fun.  Starting center will be a choice between defense (Pryzbilla) and offense (Schmaltz).  And I will need to try and determine my backup PG.

Raptors are quite happy with that TC. None of the big 5 regressed, and that's always pleasant.

Willis had the perfect TC for us - lost an offense but gained a rebounding and a potential. Now starting with 2 A- rebounders in the frontcourt and a great rebounder at SF. Should be a winning year on the boards at least.

Buck stayed literally exactly the same which is rather odd for a 26 year, but I won't complain, he was the league leading rebounder last year and scored 21 as well. He looks primed for another great year.

Chuck, like Buck, stayed literally exactly the same. I'm perfectly ok with that too, although eventually over his career it was be nice to see him do something.

Schader improved an offense and is now a B B+ offensive player, and still with his A defense.


Kersey improved his defense.


Should be a fun year.

Pre & Post:
http://files.ssbabasketball.com/files/TC/2024/

one thing i didnt like, i was hoping Akeem will finally get to A+ defense, but instead he dropped -1 rebs. On C tough it might change.

Zeke went +2 on offense, outside and inside, but dropped defense and rebs by 2 as well.

The rest was all good.....

CENTERS:
Holman def up +1
Bailey def up +2
Falwell def up +1 outside -1

PFs:
Hakeem -1 rebs

SFs:
Kersey hn +1, def and rebs +1 as well, looks nice.
Comegys same
Rodman outside +1

SGs/PGs:
O'Neill same.
LaFrentz -1 hn.
Drexler outside and inside +1, he can finally score some.
Zeke +1 outside, handles, def and rebs -1.
Augmon -1 def.


7 players improved
2 players same as before
3 players decresead (2 "i wont see any minutes and im not important" ones and Hakeem.

Great TC, too bad Hakeem at least didnt improved his rebs, or defense.

Houston Rockets

Olden Polynice = +1 outside, +1 Handle, +1 Defense... nice!

Shane Wedge = +1 rebounding. A nice surprise. Might keep him now

Roy Tarpley = +1 inside

Keyon Brunson = +1 Handle, +1 defense

Sam Mitchel = +1 defense (could be useful)

Zack Profit = +1 defense, -1 handle

Adam Fortson = +1 outside. Now C- A- C+ A- C B... Definately getting some minutes

Jose Outlaw = +1 inside, +1 handle

Muggsy Bogues = +1 Defense, -1 rebounding (hahahahahaha)

Larry Drew = -1 defense



Pretty good TC! Very happy with Tarpley, Polynice and Fortson!

Sampson: -1 inside
Munson: same
Strait: -1 inside, +1 outside, -1 defense
Wu: +1 outside, +1 handles
Kitna: same (who cares)
Greiner: +1 inside, +1 defense
Woklowyski: -1 outside,
Blackman: +1 inside
Rosow: +2 outside, +1 defense, +1 rebounding
Pettit: same
Pressley: +1 outside, +1 defense
Brice: -1 handles
Artest: +1 inside, -1 outside

Really excited about Rosow.  I would have liked that +1 rebounding to be moved other places, like, say, defense.  But +2 outside and +1 defense is nice.  If he could get himself up to a B or better defense (not impossible considering defense is usually the most improved category for perimeter players), he could be great.  B+ B offense is really nice.  He might start for me.

Sampson and Munson staying virtually the same helps, as does Brice (-1 handles I can live with, I was worried about defense).  The complimentary players (Greiner, Blackman, Pressley, Rosow, Wu) all improved substantially.  I go 4 deep on the wing (blackman, rosow, greiner, pettit), all of whom could start if need be.  It'll be interesting how the minutes get split up.

Pippen- +1 Outside

Steve Johnson- +1 Defense (A- now)

Jesus Risen- -1 Inside, +1 Outside, +2 potential

Michael Brooks- +1 outside, -1 Defense, +1 rebounding, +3 potential

Travis Arizin- +1 handling, -1 defense, 

Rob Williams- +1 inside, -1 handling, -1 defense

Brandon Irish (rookie) - +1 outside, +1 handling, +1 defense,

TC is supposed to be about kids brimming with potential, but I'm most pleased with my vets:

Milner stayed the same at 33 - nice, coupled with his resurgent season last yr.
Bennett Fuqua loves playing for me as much as I love him - +1 DEF at 33, can't complain.
Palacio - -1IN, but +1DEF and REB - a fine exchange.
Tobey - MVP year in the making? +1 OUT, +1 REB, +1 HAN, with -1 DEF.
Dudley Bradley stayed the same - which is fine by me.

So, in the "Vet" category, only Fleischer declined - -1REB and IN. Still solid enough to play, and overall +2 from six older guys who make up about 80% of my expected minutes played - which is very encouraging.

The kids were less exciting, but pretty good.

Best of the bunch was Dell Curry - improving on his OUT and DEF by 1 each.
Kenny Walker - he of the "sky(walker)" high potential improved his REB by 1 - would have preferred it on the offensive side anywhere, but his athleticism should help.
Jon Koncak - +1HAN - big whoop.
Shaun Dampier went +1 on D, which helps.

Not bad or anything, quite good in fact - just nothing all too exciting.

Tracy Gordon, this years promising-seeming 2nd rd pick, did nothing. Last years promising-seeming 2nd rd pick, Jon Outlaw went -1DEF, which sucks. Of my three last minute signings, "Easy" Ed Pinckney did OK, with a +1 IN, while Tanner Watts went -2 and Rick Carlisle -1/+1 staying the same guy.

Overall, a +5 and no real reason to think that the Nets are in some big regression - which is good.

Didn't gain any scoring but gained on D.  My young guys didn't do a thing.  Average TC for the Mavs.

The Wiz got worse.   :?

I am quite happy with this TC...

Jerry Recasner has a great TC...  +1 in, +1 def, and +1 reb...
Rodney McCray stayed the same, which I am quite happy with.
Otis Thorpe gained a rebound, and is now B+ in, with B- def and B+ rebounding.  I may have a PF battle on my hands... If not, Otis will replace Bennet Fuqua perfectly.
Dylan Pettit gained a rebound, and is now an A- rebounder.
Darren Rice gained an inside, which now makes him C+ in, B+ out...
And Morris Oyediji, by 2nd round pick, went from C+ out and C+ def to B out and B def, and kept his A potential.

Pretty happy with the TC...  No major losses, and good improvements.

Nets, do yourself a favor and don't click on my roster page and look at Macy's ratings.  :wink:

OK. I won't.

Jerk.






 :lol:

Lets see...

Swift is 36 years old, so the -3 isn't too surprising. Defense is still there though.
Welp was +2 plus got the all important scouted potential up to a D
Perkins +1 in rebounding
Bias continues his path towards an elite scorer, +1 for outside
Hornacek pumped up his handles to an A-, he looks like he's going to be really good, need to find some more PT for him.

meh, could have been better. not terrible though.

Michael Jordan

Holy crap!!!

OMG. Age 23 only. He'll be the first player in SSBA with a serious chance to get three to four A+ ratings.

wowzers!

He's had 4 TC's now.  Even if his potential was at 100 to start with, I'd doubt his scouted pot is true.

have we ever seen anyone with ratings like this? I guess T-Mac in his prime was the closest...

but yeah, I don't see him getting 4 A+. It takes a huge leap to get from A- to A+.

btw, he only improved +2 this TC, so I doubt we see a major improvement from MJ production wise.

His 26/7/6 and 4topg on a mediocre team barely making the playoffs are hardly worthy of a superstar, as the ratings are suggesting. Not even top 5 in scoring, just AllLeague 3rd team. MJ, you're downright embarrassing ...
;-)

Ive only seen one other player like that in FBB, and crazy enough it was an FBB generated player in my league, RBSL: http://rbsl.phillyarena.net/rbsl/html/players/player310.htm

Dont be fooled by the position, he was originally a SF, but needless to say, its no mistake moving him to PG.

oh my

horrible :lol: he is 6'11 and can't block even 1 shot per game  :lmao:

but serious he is insane. i had only 1 player ever with similar ratings. maybe tom can find the link for t-mac some seasons ago in djsl. this guy even improved after the age of 31 i believe.

That was TMac at age 31, at the top of his ratings:
A-   A   A-   A   C   D

earliest i could find was age 28:
A-   B+   B+   A   C   D

MJ is far better at age 23 !!!

now all he has to do is play up to those ratings

TMac:
A- A A- A C
MJ:
A- A- A- A C+

So MJ is:
+0, -1, +0 +0 +1

How is he far better?

that was tmac's PRIME. MJ is 23 now with all of 4 TCs ...

ok, further research made me feel better:

TMac age 25 (default league file)
A- A- B A C B
2005   Rockets   82   24,0   6,5   6,2   ,469   ,795   ,355

TMac age 26
A- B+ B+ A C B
2006   Rockets   82   24,4   7,1   5,5   ,455   ,803   ,411
2007   Rockets   82   26,0   7,1   5,3   ,476   ,770   ,425
2008   Rockets   79   25,9   7,7   5,0   ,481   ,764   ,411

TMac age 29
A- A- B+ A C C
2009   Rockets   82   24,7   7,0   5,0   ,464   ,788   ,387
2010   Rockets   73   25,5   6,9   4,0   ,476   ,814   ,387

TMac age 31 (prime ratings)
A- A A- A C D
2011   Lakers   77   27,3   6,6   4,2   ,461   ,786   ,425
2012   Lakers   75   28,2   6,9   4,1   ,491   ,766   ,447
2013   Lakers   82   29,0   7,4   4,3   ,478   ,776   ,442

TMac age 34
A- A B+ A- C C
2014   Clippers   81   24,2   6,4   10,1   ,474   ,806   ,427
2015   Clippers   77   23,4   6,4   5,1   ,473   ,776   ,453

TMac age 36 (last season)
B+ A- B B+ C F
2016   Clippers   76   20,1   5,4   5,1   ,445   ,835   ,376


Guess we don't have to expect superman then ...
 :cheers:

btw, we have a new Oscar Ferry apparently, a player losing 8 net ratings over the first 7 seasons of his career.

Guess who ...
:-)

Ok..

Lets subtract MJ's ratings to make it fair for everyone.. LOL..

I hate to quote myself, but you're such a lame bunch.

JOE BARRY CARROLL

went from these: A- C- D+ B+ B- D
to those ratings : B+ C- F+ C+ C+ D

at least he doesn'T make a fortune, still: poor Kings !
(just imagine if Ivan could still see that, he'd go nuts ...)
 8)

he would also find a way to discredit MJ's ratings though

I just noticed Armon Gillam of the Kings had a damn good TC.  He could be a good player this season.

gotcha.  I misread what you posted.