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Title: Problem with player extension
Post by: CelticsGM on January 17, 2008, 05:41:53 AM
just found out the Pacers extended Marcus Kersey
so far so good, but at closer look you can see this:

http://forums.ssbabasketball.com/index.php?topic=7811.0
sim 12 done
? on: 14 January 2008, 05:34:33 ?

http://forums.ssbabasketball.com/index.php?topic=7812.0
Pacers: extend Kersey 1yr
? on: 14 January 2008, 13:14:06 ?

After twice being rejected for getting the extension posted late (including once when the sim 12 discussion hadn't even been posted) I not only find this rather annoying but downright disgusting ...

 :bash:


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: PacersGM on January 17, 2008, 07:59:58 AM
yes i can understand your point of view.
the following situation occured.
i had the extension planed before the sim but had a problem with the extension of the mavs who requested an extension for a MLE signed player. so i decided to discuss this issue with bods and delay the extension work till i know what to do.
i simply forget afterwards to post my own extension before the sim was done.
if you think that gives me an unfair advantage i will take the extension back.


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: CelticsGM on January 17, 2008, 08:53:04 AM
I don't ask for anything, it's really the comissioner's call what should be done.


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: WizardsGM on January 17, 2008, 09:21:50 AM
If the reasoning is "I simply forgot to post" then I definitely believe the extension should be taken back. It is setting a bad precedent for any GM to PM Pacers/Bods and say "sorry I forgot to post this in time, can you do it anyways?". I can think of a situation or two were someone can be granted a pardon, but because they forgot isnt one of them.

Its nothing personal against Pacers, but that is just my two cents.


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: NetsGM on January 17, 2008, 10:00:58 AM
I'm kinda on the celtics side on this one.  In fact, I think this is what the Celtics have been arguing for.  Extensions haven't been sent out yet, so I don't see the problem in allowing people to purchase extensions now.  The problem is, in the past Pacers have given the extensions a hard deadline.  PacersGM SHOULD be allowed to forgot, and still purchase an extension if the extensions haven't been sent out yet.  But it has to be consistently enforced as such.  If Pacers can forget, then it should be acceptable for others to as well.


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: CelticsGM on January 17, 2008, 10:08:06 AM
In fact, I'd call Pacers are allowed to keep the extension, since i'm sure it was uploaded already with sim 12.
so i'm 100% sure everything was done 100% right

but i also would have voted my extension came in time back then if you remember (*)



(*) the only bitter taste for me is this: Once sim 12 is finished the simmer can see/know the player resign offers, so he COULD check before carrying out the extension (and again, I'm 100% sure you didn't do). In my case I posted well before player offers were announced so I COULD NOT have know before posting.
(and that's what's so sad about Orlando-Gate, still, 2 seasons later ...)
:-(


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: HornetsGM on January 17, 2008, 10:12:26 AM
I'm kinda on the celtics side on this one.  In fact, I think this is what the Celtics have been arguing for.  Extensions haven't been sent out yet, so I don't see the problem in allowing people to purchase extensions now.  The problem is, in the past Pacers have given the extensions a hard deadline.  PacersGM SHOULD be allowed to forgot, and still purchase an extension if the extensions haven't been sent out yet.  But it has to be consistently enforced as such.  If Pacers can forget, then it should be acceptable for others to as well.

I don't have a problem with doing that in the future (after a vote, perhaps), but it's unfair to let it go now.

There's no way that the excuse "I forgot" would fly for any of us.

I think that the Pacers understands this, and that the Celts have a valid point.


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: CelticsGM on January 17, 2008, 10:24:03 AM
one thing i don't like is that this looks like "my revenge" on the Pacers for Orlando. hope he understands I don't have anything like personal reasons to post this. I'm over with Orlando-gate, it just brought memories back ... (*)

I just wondered why there was suddenly an extension post way after sim 12, and told so.
(and if anyone else had posted it the Pacers would have told us anyway)


(*) in fact when you look back at the 2002 FA class (the one I had hoped to make a max bid with the sal cap than went to Orlando's max instead), i might have to be thankful how things turned out. The "big prizes" in 2002 were Tom Najera (9/9/4to today) and Mark Wooten (decent, but overpaid), glad I got excused from that.
And furthermore, the Orlando contract gave me a chance to get Moncrief/Short/Kings pick, Short gave me Peters, Kings pick gave me Mahorn ... and my current team that's a ton better than the 2001 squad.


Title: Re: Problem with player extension
Post by: PacersGM on January 17, 2008, 10:35:38 AM
well no extension was made before sim12 as explained before. but mavs posted theirs in time and i didn?t.
so kersey will loose his extension.
resignings will be send to bods soon. maybe i am lucky an he offers me a similar contract, maybe not :-(.