Title: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 12:41:39 PM Hey guys,
I'd like to get all your opinion on what to do about RaptorsGM. Last year he missed 9 of 12 DC's. He said that he was really busy, so we overlooked it, and he stayed. He missed Draft and FA this offseason. And so far this year has not made a DC. He last logged in 11 days ago, September 3rd. I've sent him an e-mail over a week ago, and he never responded. Obviously, Trev has been here since the beginning. We WANT him to stay. But he hasn't been a GM now in over two sim years, and he's been incommunicado in attempts to talk to him. What do you think we should do? Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 14, 2007, 02:13:36 PM Giving him more time, if he keeps that way for more then 30 days then we should do something about it.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 02:25:21 PM Giving him more time, if he keeps that way for more then 30 days then we should do something about it. So missing 24 out of 28 DC's isn't enough? I fear that by the time 30 days hits, the Raptors will be rotten. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 14, 2007, 02:30:29 PM I dunno, lets see what others think.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: HawksGM on September 14, 2007, 02:31:41 PM I agree, I think they might need a new GM. Trev has been a great and loyal GM, but I think life might have gotten too busy for him. He has missed a lot, maybe too much.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: HornetsGM on September 14, 2007, 02:47:57 PM I voted no, for the time being. We don't really know what goes on in each other's personal lives, so it's tough to make the right call in many cases. I know that he said he left school recently, so he's probably got some other things on his mind right now. I think that we should give him until the end of the season (FA day 5 / TC), and then move on if we haven't heard from him. Obviously it's going to be detrimental to the Raptors to be without a human GM, but I think Trev has earned our patience with his past commitment to the league.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: CelticsGM on September 14, 2007, 03:07:33 PM I voted to get him another chance, if only to tell us (or at least bods/commish) what's his plans are. I think that much fairness for a guy being here from the start - and one of the most active for that matter (i still remember him tripling my posts easily, when I was most active a few seasons ago).
I learned he was fired from DJSL earlier this week, after not doing anything there for a long time as well, but that was ok there Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 03:10:31 PM Quote I voted to get him another chance, if only to tell us (or at least bods/commish) what's his plans are. I just wish he'd respond to my e-mails. Does anybody have any alternate e-mails for trev? If you do, PM them to me. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: GrizzliesGM on September 14, 2007, 03:22:21 PM We all know he has been one of the most active GM's. Bods, did you say there are already 2 open GM spots? if so, lets try to fill those first. Then we can give away his spot. I see no reason to fire him now if there are open GM spots.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: HornetsGM on September 14, 2007, 03:26:45 PM Good point Grizz
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 03:27:54 PM Well, this is more a theoretical, "how long do you wait" kinda question. Let's assume those get filled in a week. Do we then look to replace trev?
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: KingsGM-old on September 14, 2007, 03:42:57 PM I guess we all have some kind of techology overdose and need a break from virtual life (it happened to me dozens of time) so i guess Trev is feelin the same.
I say give him some time till the season ends, there's no point in firing him now since the Raptors season is already lost. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 03:51:34 PM Quote I say give him some time till the season ends, there's no point in firing him now since the Raptors season is already lost That's the thing. The most important time of the year for a team is the offseason. I'd like all teams to be active for that. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 14, 2007, 03:55:29 PM Then give him time until next FA in some 50 days :p
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: KingsGM-old on September 14, 2007, 03:57:24 PM Draft is the most important thing for that team's future. If he misses the draft then he obviously don't care anymore.
As i said, give him some time till the draft BUT we should have a new GM being prepared to jump in comes draft time. Besides, we always seems to have one or two open spots, so if he decides to come back, we can always find him a team. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: SpursGM-old on September 14, 2007, 04:09:44 PM Well, this is more a theoretical, "how long do you wait" kinda question. Let's assume those get filled in a week. Do we then look to replace trev? I would say at that time yes, we replace him. But we have had one team open for a while. And the other just opened up. Odds are that it will take time to find 2 new GMs. If he hasn't replied to e-mails or checked in by the time the other teams have been filled then start looking for a replacement. EDIT: BTW I didn't vote as I don't see a clear cut answer right now. Firing him now puts the team in the computer's control...which is basically status quo. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 14, 2007, 05:36:09 PM Grizz point is great, lets find 2 GMs for those spots first, then well discuss about trev. It makes no sense discussing this right now as we need to fill 2 spots first. So lets just leave it this way and continue to talk about it after we find 2. Until then, everyone should try to find out whats going on with trev.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 05:47:46 PM Quote It makes no sense discussing this right now as we need to fill 2 spots first It always makes sense to be prepared. And didn't you fire him in DJSL? Quote Until then, everyone should try to find out whats going on with trev. We have been. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: HornetsGM on September 14, 2007, 07:15:39 PM Pistons, you clearly have something in mind, what would your course of action be?
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 09:53:49 PM I actually don't. If Pacers or I had a firm idea of what to do, a decision either way would have been made. I'm just playing devils advocate to try to look at things from all angles.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: MagicGM on September 14, 2007, 10:00:24 PM bods, trev has alreaDy left rbsl, and gave a notice to nick. Maybe nick can help us out contacting him?
Quote It wasnt an easy call, but I spoke to Trev on a few occasions about it and he had to step down. He really thought his life would calm down and allow him more computer access, but unfortunately things continued to get worse for him and personal life always takes precedence over Sim Leagues. That said, the door will remain open for him to return if and when he is able. Replacing him will be our old WarriorsGM. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 14, 2007, 10:23:55 PM Grizz makes a good point, and so does Kings - I share their thinking. I don't have the same history in here as the others, and appreciate that Trev has made alot of contributions here - but IIRC, the main issue for him was availability, and "no time" means "no time". So, fill the other two spots, and if there's a third candidate, then great - let him handle TO and Trev can make a triumphant return when he is able.
I can not agree more about teams needing management over the off-season. We recently saw the Bowie fiasco here. Just watched a really great team get shredded in one off-season in another league. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: SixersGM on September 15, 2007, 01:47:12 AM Look for other candidate. And be our no.1 priority candidate to be a GM in SSBA.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: MagicGM on September 15, 2007, 11:20:02 AM nick, do you know where trev is right now? diD he tell you that he'll be leaving ssba too?
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 15, 2007, 01:09:05 PM Quote It makes no sense discussing this right now as we need to fill 2 spots first It always makes sense to be prepared. And didn't you fire him in DJSL? I did, but i actually didnt know it was trev LOL. I completely forgot and i did fire him, if i knew it was him i would wait a bit. Too much :bods: Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: PacersGM on September 16, 2007, 04:02:51 AM i say let´s make his team available. we need some time to find a new gm anyway and we have to fill the wolves and lakers first. in about 2 weeks we have a draft again and he missed already last season draft as well. his team can´t afford another offseason without any activity.
so that allow us to look for a new gm for about 2 weeks and the raptorsgm to answer our e-mails and pms. as kings posted he will always have a chance to come back and get a new team here. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: WizardsGM on September 16, 2007, 02:38:13 PM I have talked to Trev on a few occasions since I live close to him and it doesnt appear his life was going to get any easier. However he is moving back to the city with full internet access and has always expressed his desire to keep SSBA as his only sim league. I have replacemed him in our other 2 leagues and he was OK with that. I will try to talk to him ASAP regarding SSBA.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 16, 2007, 04:03:32 PM If the problem is internet access, I have no problem waiting until he regains it full time. I just need to know that there is an end in sight to inactivity.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: HeatGM on September 16, 2007, 07:08:11 PM If the problem is internet access, I have no problem waiting until he regains it full time. I just need to know that there is an end in sight to inactivity. agreed Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: PacersGM on September 22, 2007, 01:58:17 AM so any news on trev?
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: WizardsGM on September 25, 2007, 10:37:18 AM Just got an email back from him. He has moved and is just now getting the internet back and he anticipates getting some free time back to come back to SSBA. I forwarded the email to Bods.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: HornetsGM on September 25, 2007, 10:38:37 AM good news
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 25, 2007, 11:25:53 AM what team was he in DJSL *?* I still havent found replacement for those 2 GMs i fired, but i dont remember if he was Heat or Nuggs. ????
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 25, 2007, 11:29:42 AM He was Heat (or at least he was when I was there)
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: MavsGM on September 25, 2007, 12:35:45 PM what team was he in DJSL *?* I still havent found replacement for those 2 GMs i fired, but i dont remember if he was Heat or Nuggs. ???? Dude, you didn't fired me :moon:. I quit LONG time ago. :screwy:Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 26, 2007, 05:36:23 PM eh, what team were you ? i fired Heat, Pistons, Nuggs and Blazers. Need replacement for Heat and Nuggs still. Im not running it, i just took over while Tom was on vacation.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: MavsGM on September 26, 2007, 06:12:29 PM I was the NuggetsGM.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 26, 2007, 06:28:11 PM you didnt resign, you were fired due to inactivity few days ago heheh. Your team was still beast, youve made to POs and almost took down (3-4) probably the best team in DJSL.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: MavsGM on September 26, 2007, 06:37:00 PM I did resigned in the summer. The post probably lost in somewhere.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 27, 2007, 11:41:13 AM So what's the call on Trev?
he has some resignings that are probably out there, and the draft is fast approaching... Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: WizardsGM on September 27, 2007, 11:57:33 AM Just got an email back from him. He has moved and is just now getting the internet back and he anticipates getting some free time back to come back to SSBA. I forwarded the email to Bods. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: NetsGM on September 27, 2007, 11:58:02 AM JMO his team should go in CPU control until we know for sure. I don't want to let his team miss out on draft, resignings, and fa, but I also want him to have a chance to get internet at his place and get back into the swing of things.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 27, 2007, 12:15:06 PM I did resigned in the summer. The post probably lost in somewhere. Not really, we were waiting for you for a long time, i guess your I QUIT post never appeared on boards somehow. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: MavsGM on September 27, 2007, 12:50:16 PM I did resigned in the summer. The post probably lost in somewhere. Not really, we were waiting for you for a long time, i guess your I QUIT post never appeared on boards somehow. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 27, 2007, 01:02:06 PM Oh, well Tom was in charge back then so i guess he overlooked it somehow.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 27, 2007, 01:17:38 PM JMO his team should go in CPU control until we know for sure. I don't want to let his team miss out on draft, resignings, and fa, but I also want him to have a chance to get internet at his place and get back into the swing of things. Well, with Mark Wooten and Michael O'Neal possibly becoming free agents, I am a little concerned. I do like the idea of a draft committee for CPU controlled teams, though... Maybe that should be put together for this draft. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: RaptorsGM on September 27, 2007, 02:03:05 PM I think I have the best solution...I'll lead them back into the top of SSBA :)
I'm sorry guys, as Nick has mentioned a few times my personal life is pretty time consuming and has been for about a year now but that's finally getting better. The problem lately has been total lack of internet access, but I finally have it hooked up at my apartment and I am ready to go. Right now my laptop is broken (when it rains it really does pour) so I only have a few mins a day on my roommate's comp, but when the job rolls in a bit more cash I'll be getting a new comp and can restore to my endless amounts of time spent on SSBA. As has been mentioned, I have quit or been fired in all my other leagues, and right now I am not looking to rejoin any of them, I'm happy with just SSBA for now. So I'm going to go get ready for FA and the draft. And Bods - what email did you have for me? PM me about it. I didnt get any emails from you. Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 27, 2007, 02:13:42 PM Welcome back, oh prodigal GM :D
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: CelticsGM on September 27, 2007, 03:48:26 PM lol
good to have you back (btw, once you're hooked up to virtuality again, i'll get you back into DJSL as well ... someunfinished business there for you ...) Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 27, 2007, 04:44:37 PM LOL.
Whata comeback in a style !! Heheh, great to have you back !! Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: BlazersGM on September 27, 2007, 04:45:17 PM ....reminds me of when MJ announced his comeback after 2 years absence heheh.
Title: Re: What to do - RaptorsGM Post by: PacersGM on September 28, 2007, 02:40:31 AM welcome back trev.
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