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Title: FA day 1
Post by: PacersGM on August 13, 2007, 04:54:01 AM
2021 181 Pistons Sign PG William Brice for $114.975.000 over 6 years.
2021 181 Grizzlies Sign PG Lincoln Lord for $58.206.093 over 3 years.
2021 181 Suns Sign PG Ian Magliore for $36.000.000 over 4 years.
2021 181 Supersonics Sign PG Kelvin Ransey for $105.393.750 over 7 years.
2021 181 Hornets Sign PG Julius Russell for $4.500.000 over one year.
2021 181 Trailblazers Sign SG Kyle Macy for $50.370.000 over 4 years.
2021 181 Rockets Sign PF Rick Mahorn for $82.125.000 over 6 years.
2021 181 Pacers Sign PG Alphonse Butler for $7.000.000 over one year.
2021 181 Bucks Sign PG Mark Bird for $5.200.000 over one year.
2021 181 Spurs Sign SG Mike Woodson for $36.956.250 over 3 years.
2021 181 Warriors Sign PF Phil Hubbard for $105.393.750 over 7 years.
2021 181 Hawks Sign PF James Bailey for $21.000.000 over 3 years.
2021 181 Jazz Sign PG Curtis Sura for $4.500.000 over one year.
2021 181 Hornets Sign PG John Duren for $10.950.000 over one year.
2021 181 Hawks Sign SG Ron Brewer for $21.000.000 over 3 years.
2021 181 Suns Sign C Jose Siegel for $22.500.000 over 3 years.
2021 181 Warriors Sign SF Stephan Sylvester for $5.400.000 over one year.
2021 181 Heat Sign C Eric Wu for $82.125.000 over 6 years.
2021 181 76ers Sign PF Edgar Barner for $15.330.000 over one year.
2021 181 Hornets Sign PG Spencer Johnson for $5.400.000 over one year.
2021 181 Bucks Sign PF Amare Stoudemire for $4.500.000 over one year.
2021 181 Warriors Sign C Tyson Thurmond for $79.302.779 over 7 years.
2021 181 Hawks Sign PF Reggie Johnson for $10.950.000 over one year.
2021 181 Celtics Sign C Edward Priddy for $4.750.000 over one year.
2021 181 Magic Sign C Darren Tillis for $3.152.500 over 3 years.
2021 181 Kings Sign PF Jamal Sampson for $5.000.000 over one year.
2021 181 Wizards Sign C Jamal Nesterovich for $1.200.000 over one year.
2021 181 Cavs Sign C Royal Jackson for $4.500.000 over one year.
2021 181 Warriors Sign C Dylan Pettit for $4.500.000 over one year.
2021 181 Jazz Sign SF Phillip Meyers for $1.200.000 over one year.
2021 181 Celtics Sign C Skyler Buckner for $1.300.000 over one year.
2021 181 Magic Sign SF Kevin McHale for $82.125.000 over 6 years.
2021 181 Grizzlies Sign SF Richard Gaylor for $4.500.000 over one year.
2021 181 Mavericks Sign SG Quincy Mihm for $1.300.000 over one year.
2021 181 Supersonics Sign SF Kody Van Horn for $1.200.000 over one year.
2021 181 Grizzlies Sign SF Jack Vice for $10.920.000 over 2 years.
2021 181 Grizzlies Sign C Johnny Martin for $1.330.491 over 2 years.
2021 181 76ers Sign C Jourdain Godin for $7.000.000 over one year.
2021 181 Hornets Sign SF Juan Roberts for $1.549.230 over one year.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: MagicGM on August 13, 2007, 04:56:26 AM
uh... william bye :(


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: PacersGM on August 13, 2007, 04:58:12 AM
warriors got really lucky and are the big winners of day 1.
Also well done by rockets and suns.
I have no clue why several FA took less money and changed teams.
the biggest surprise is that a backup PG got several near max offers and took a moderate offer from another team.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: SonicsGM on August 13, 2007, 05:02:35 AM
Welcome back, Kelvin.

I was really worried that Ransey would bolt, but I guess he really likes playing for an up-tempo club and for a manager who doesn't care about the turnovers.

Also landed a player who hasn't played a minute (in two years) for the LLE...crazy but true.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: PacersGM on August 13, 2007, 05:06:39 AM
Welcome back, Kelvin.

I was really worried that Ransey would bolt, but I guess he really likes playing for an up-tempo club and for a manager who doesn't care about the turnovers.

Also landed a player who hasn't played a minute (in two years) for the LLE...crazy but true.

yea i tried to steal him from you but that kind of contract is too big for a pg imo.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: SonicsGM on August 13, 2007, 05:09:48 AM
yea i tried to steal him from you but that kind of contract is too big for a pg imo.

But when you put up numbers like he did last postseason (28 PPG, 10APG) you are going to get paid...

Plus, I gave a bunch of picks for him...I couldn't just let him walk away.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: PacersGM on August 13, 2007, 05:10:30 AM
ok some rule updates for some of you guys:

i won´t tolerate more than 6 MLE bids per day. i think we had that as rule before but i couldn´t find it.
several gms tried to offer max contracts with 7 years even without having bird years. That isn´t possible only 6 years.
If you have more than 4.5mill capspace you can´t use your exceptions. i had to use the capspace and inserted 1 year offers. if you don´t want to use your capspace don´t use your exception before you can.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 13, 2007, 06:34:42 AM
Well, I am very happy to bring everyone back into the fold, even though it was quite expensive.
Very happy to pick up Dylan Pettit for the MLE, as he may be Gregory Holman's replacement in a year or two.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: WizardsGM on August 13, 2007, 06:42:05 AM
Ugh - every single one of my targets signed elsewhere in day 1. And if that wasnt bad enough, my plan to try and use McHale for S&T purposes on day 2 went down hill.

Was really hoping to strike some luck in FA to peak my interest in this league again, but it looks like I will be sporting a Kings-esque roster this year.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: NetsGM on August 13, 2007, 07:20:26 AM
Shame of a day for the Nets, and I'm feeling alittle conflicted.

Typically, when I lose a free agent I want to keep, I feel a little pissy. Take the case of Kyle Macy. Drafted by his hometown team. Groomed carefully over five years. A big part of two Eastern conference finalists, where he was a starter and key component. And then this. Jumps ship for a bad team. Highest resigning rating was Loyalty, by a lot. Second, play for a winner - which New Jersey provided. Goes for the bigger bucks. I feel like calling him out as a greedy, unappreciative, punk runt.

But in this case, I don't know how badly I feel. Sure I wanted to keep him, but that annual salary is overpaying in my opinion, and any more than what I offered would have crippled my financial flexibilty over the next little while. I really felt like if he stuck around, the Nets were as close as anyone to being favorites in the East for the next few years at least. I guess I angered him by adding arguably the leagues best point guard and changing his position during the season. That and he must have wanted a chance to play with a potential MVP in Hakeem. So it goes - a shame but not so much. I haven't really - Schmalz aside, who I had to overpay dearly for - had good luck/success in free agency in this league.

I don't think this is a debilitating loss, and I should be able to recover with an MLE type talent, but looking over the FA list.....it's not as though it's an ultra deep class. I'll just have to roll with it.

Good luck with him Blazers, I suspect he'll play well but in Portland, but still leave you wanting a little more for what you're paying.

 



Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: KingsGM-old on August 13, 2007, 07:25:52 AM
but it looks like I will be sporting a Kings-esque roster this year.

What that suppose to mean?


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: CelticsGM on August 13, 2007, 07:30:44 AM
Magloire, that bitch, took a 36mill/4yr offer from the suns over my 66mill/5yr resign offer.
And if you think i'm disappointed, think again, I even regretted offering 5 yrs to him this morning, but it was too late to lower my offer. Problem is, his ratings look superb, but he's as underachieving as it gets and there was a reason minimum FA pickup Trump started over him. Look for him to mix one great game with 2 good ones and 7 mediocre outings. Don't get me wrong, I would have loved to resign him for around 25mill/4yr deal (which is what he's worth) but there was no way I'd get him for that.

What hurts more is Tillis accepting a lame offer instead of resigning, as my frontcourt is aging.

Resigned Priddy (a must) and Buckner for cheap is decent, losing Amare is irrelevant, he was completely finished last season already.


Well, not much left for me to do but finding a gem who plays for little now, but my team's starters were pretty much set anyway before ...


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: WizardsGM on August 13, 2007, 07:40:09 AM
but it looks like I will be sporting a Kings-esque roster this year.

What that suppose to mean?

Means I will have a couple of nice real name players surrounded by scrub nobodys, which was your case up until last offseason when you finally signed some guys.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: Str8westcoasta on August 13, 2007, 09:13:02 AM
Glad to get Mahorn.

I have a pretty strong frontcourt now. Wish I could have gotten Thummond, I offered 4.6 for 4 years then at the last moment cut my offer and he went for 4.5! D'oh!

7 mil and I need a PG


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: WizardsGM on August 13, 2007, 09:29:43 AM
Glad to get Mahorn.

I have a pretty strong frontcourt now. Wish I could have gotten Thummond, I offered 4.6 for 4 years then at the last moment cut my offer and he went for 4.5! D'oh!

7 mil and I need a PG

Dont feel bad, I offered Thurmound around 7 per year


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 13, 2007, 09:35:16 AM
Wow, guess I was lucky he came back...  Although I did offer him 8 million per year..


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: HornetsGM on August 13, 2007, 10:11:44 AM
The Good -- Suns and Rockets really did well, particularly the Suns. The Suns got the two pieces they needed to fill out their starting rotation, with Magloire being one of the more promising young PGs around (and definitely worth his contract). Whether this will translate to wins remains to be seen, of course. The Warriors also came out looking good, resigning top players. In my shotblock-loving eyes, Thurmond should have (and would have, if I had cap space) gotten a max deal, so nice signing there.
The Bad -- Kelvin Ransey and Kevin McHale are both suspect max candidates, imo, with Ransey being a TO machine, and McHale playing average D while only scoring 16.4 ppg. I also find the Pistons' Brice signing to be a little strange, considering their youth movement. Not a terrible signing, but weird.
The Ugly -- Who the hell is Eric Wu? That guy wasn't even on my radar.



I got what I wanted out of this FA -- plenty of trade filler, and a solid backup PG in Julius Russell. He has almost a 5/1 a/to ratio, and shot very well last season, so hopefully he'll be a good contributor behind Stockton.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: KingsGM-old on August 13, 2007, 10:32:18 AM
The Good -- Suns  really did well, particularly the Suns. The Suns got the two pieces they needed to fill out their starting rotation,

Shit, i didn't even see that.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: WizardsGM on August 13, 2007, 10:38:22 AM
The Ugly - the Nuggets


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 13, 2007, 10:45:43 AM
The Warriors also came out looking good, resigning top players. In my shotblock-loving eyes, Thurmond should have (and would have, if I had cap space) gotten a max deal, so nice signing there.

Thanks....  And very glad you did not have cap space :)
But a Max deal for Thurmond?  :shock:
Obviously, I like him alot.  And he is the 2nd best per minute shotbocker in the league. But until he stays on the court for more then 32 mpg, he really does not even deserve the contract I gave him....


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: HornetsGM on August 13, 2007, 10:51:52 AM
Well, I'm very biased about shotblocking... Thurmond is only 23, and still has B potential. Judging by the great improvement in shotblocking in the last few years, chances are pretty good that he could add a few tenths to that per game average.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: BlazersGM on August 13, 2007, 11:37:15 AM
happy i got Macy altough i was hoping for some PF/C or top PG.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: JazzGM-old on August 13, 2007, 11:38:34 AM
Really glad i could fill up the roster after Day 1. I got two quality players that I'm highly familiar with in Sura and Meyers. Meyers was the perfect fit for me since i needed a little something extra at SG/SF in limited minutes and he's one of the best guys I've had who can produce the most in little time. My only fear with Sura is a major rating drop but he has produced very well as a backup and is still a very capable starter. Now barring TC catastrophe, I have the same team as last year with some added pieces in Cage and Meyers that hopefully can take me over the top. I would like to see Thomas and Vandeweghe/Theus improve again this TC


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: HeatGM on August 13, 2007, 12:00:09 PM

The Ugly -- Who the hell is Eric Wu? That guy wasn't even on my radar.


12 ppg 10.5 rpg 2.2 apg 0.9 spg 1.6 bpg 1.6 topg

that's what 27 year old eric wu can do :) i hope he can improve with his potential...probably over paid him so much...but he can play :)


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: SunsGM on August 13, 2007, 12:42:56 PM
I'm happy to have landed Magliore for a decent price, compared to what someother guys got. he's still young with nice ratings and production, and he still has b potential. Siegel Will provide me with def and rebounding, which is something I lacked last season. I still have over 8 milion to add a couple of backup bigs, maybe take a look at my sf spot, and some depth in the backcourt behind Bradley.

P.S. Thanks for all the GM's that complimented me on the way FA started for me. hopefully it does translate to me getting back in the playoff race out West


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: GrizzliesGM on August 13, 2007, 02:38:52 PM
I am glad to have Lincoln Lord back, even if i had to overpay him. At least its only for 3 years.

I am also glad to get Vice back, who served as a great backup for my team last season.

I am even happier getting Gaylor, who will become my starting sg, which i desperatly needed.

I also got Martin back, who i hope will improve a bit and play as a decent backup for me.



Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: CavsGM on August 13, 2007, 07:04:19 PM
Shit...I can't believe someone offered the max for Wu...I offered him a 4 year deal starting at 10 mil, thought that for sure would be enough to hold on to him. I guess that was my mistake, but I don't think he is worth that much. I do think he is a very good all-around player, who is still relatively young at 27 and may continue to improve. Well, the Cavs chances of a strong playoff push in the next couple years does not look so good anymore. The rest of the crew is aging, now may be the time to finally rebuild.


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: CelticsGM on August 13, 2007, 07:20:38 PM
yea, that's the problem.

We, the (former) owners know so much about a players value, we hesitate to overpay too much. We still do, but within reasonable boundaries. And them some team free of any cost-cautiousness throws nearly max money at these guys ... and they are gone.

But i tend to believe that sometimes you are probably better off NOT killing your salary structure for a guy who isn't even a starter yet ... or is it that I only keep telling myself to get over the loss ?
 :?


Title: Re: FA day 1
Post by: NetsGM on August 13, 2007, 10:37:17 PM
Happy to get Brice.  Sure, he's not young, but he's still in his prime.  Sure, that contract's going to look bad in 4 years, but he won't be in that contract for more than 4 years (I'll buy him out).  I now have A defenders to anchor my wings, and I have a 21 year old PG with A potential to take over for Brice when he begins to decline.

I think I'm a shotblocking C away from contention.