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The Spurs select:
Kyle Hobson, PF, UMass

Wow. That's a big reach.

Yeah.

I guess it depends on your opinion of Parker.  With his defense, I would have looked to upgrade that position.

Yeah, I hear ya. Especially with Mercer, the best PG in the draft for this year, still available.

Yeah this was a reach imo.  i know he really needed a big, but I would have went with BPA and looked for a trade.

Questionable choice. He could have fallen to as low as 13, possibly.

With the 2 B's, I expect at least 10 and 8 out of him. Not sure if that warrents the 7th pick in the draft.

He is a decent player, but a little earlier then he could have been picked.

Well, Spurs needed F/C help and they got it. Can't really argue with that. Mercer would have been the better choice, IMO, but their record will speak for itselef.

Parker can be a good starter. His ratings are solid.

Short answer…Hobson best fit the team’s needs.

Why not a pg?  There are 6 pg in this draft that have a B or B+ handle.  One of the B+ handles is Chamberlain who has C/C- for all of his other abilities.  And no one would consider him a top 10 pick.

The other B+ belongs to Mercer.  Mercer also has a strong defensive rating but has just C potential.  Ellis, Schenk, Parker and Havlicek all have B ratings for handles.  Ellis has B potential, Schenk & Havlicek have C potential and Parker is a D.

On my roster I currently have a 22 year old pg with B+ handles and B- outside shot.  His defense and inside are both C+.  He also has C potential.

When I evaluated the position I determined Mercer and Ellis were clearly better than my existing pg.  Mercer because of his defensive rating but his size made me hesitate.  Ellis is better because of defense and rebounding plus a higher potential.  Schenk is better in a couple areas but not as good in others…so basically identical to my existing pg.  The other two were not quite on par.  So basically unless I got Ellis I was duplicating a player I already had on my roster by drafting Schenk.  And going backwards by taking either Parker or Havlicek.

So the choice, after Ellis, came down to Mercer or Hobson.   I determined that I could find a suitable backup pg with the one of my 6 later picks in this draft that is deep in point guards and give him time to develop.  And seeing that my biggest need was inside scoring and defense from the pf position; I went with the player that best fit my needs – Hobson.

Well I'm glad you chose Hobson

Obviously. Who wouldn't be, with that pick. Spurs still should be able to get a pretty good PG later in the draft. There are plenty to choose from.

Well, I disagree.

I think there are certain areas a pg should excel.  First and foremost is handles.  Next on the importance list is defense, then outside shooting.

In what I believe to be the 3 key areas, Schenk is +4 (+2 in outside shooting, -1 in ballhandling, +3 in defense) and Mercer is +5 (+1 in outside shooting, even in ballhandling, +4 in defense).  I think both of these would be significant upgrades.  I think both of these qould have locked up your pg situation for a long time.  I don't think Parker does, unless his defense improves.  And I'm unsure of whether hobson does either.

I like Hobson.  I think he's a lotto pick.  But I'm always the type that unless you're 1 piece away, you go for best player available, so I disagree with the strategy.

Can you please tell Rob Babcock that?

Upset with Iguodala's triple double?  ;)

Las night was a pretty good indication ofthe 8th and 9th draft pick...

8th pick Hoffa - 4 minutes, 2 pts, 1 reb, 1/2 shooting.

9th pick Iggy - 43 minutes, 10 pts, 10 rebs, 10 asts, 4/8 shooting.


You know you screwed up when Loren Woods has to play quadruple the minutes of your high lottery pick... :roll:

But defense wasn't as critical in my point guard with my roster.  My other 4 starters will have 3 A- defenders and a B.  So I looked mainly at handling and outside shooting....and in those two categories Parker was only a net -1 to the two rookies.  I had Ellis on my draft sheet as my first choice (submitted Tuesday) mostly because of his potential.  But I chose Hobson second because of the greater need for a inside presence.  And since I lost out on the lottery and the top 3 big men it was the best available.  Also I didn't think he would drop to 14.  I made several efforts to move up from 14 to 10-12 range and theywere unsuccessful.

Last year my team was in the top half of the league defensively.  The difference in games I won and lost usually hinged on whether my shooters had a good night.  I had no inside scoring at all.

Besides I experimented a lot last year with the DC.  It was my first year and I tried all types of different combos.  My DC changed quite a bit from sim to sim.  I used last year as a learning tool.

Well, I guess we'll just have to see.

I agree that Hobson wouldn't have lasted to 14.  10-12 sounds about right.

I just disagree with not going with the best player available.  And I think Mercer, if you discount size, was top 4 in regards to skill.

Hoffa was playing injured and had the flu last night, so you can't use yesterdays scores as reference.  But you can use pretty much every other game...

you can always try to trade for a pf with hobsons skills but someone like mercer is really special. There would have been a lot of options to use or trade him.

Interesting...  Since you could have drafted him, before you traded away the 3rd pick.

I tried several times to trade the 14th pick for a pf.  What I was offered was less than Hobson.  I even offered to draft a player at the 7 spot and trade them for a pf.  Trades aren't as easy to fall into as many of you imply.  Especially if you are desparate to fill a need and are offering surplus.

Hobson was drafted high at 7...I'll admit that.  However to take the BPA and hope that someone will offer me the starting pf IMO was not the best way to go.

Actually, if the Spurs had selected Mercer over Hobson, he wouldn't have lasted to picks 10-12. That's because I would have drafted him. Had him 4th on my draft sheet after Schenk.

Hobson will be an interesting player.  He is 23, 6'10", and 225 lbs, with a B inside.
My shooting guard weighs just as much as him (JRich).

If he improves his outside shot, he looks like a decent SF...

And Griffin is a 6'10" 242 lb center with basically the same attributes as Hobson except potential.  He weighs as much as one of my small forwards. Why no questions about drafting him?  Or his ability to survive on the inside?

Mostly because I had Vlad Radman, who was a 6'10" 235 lb SF, who, when played at the PF position(when he was in Detroit) did not do well at all.  Of course, he only has a C+ inside, but a B+ outside.  He shot less then 40%.  I do not know whether it was because the computer did not use his mismatch ability (he coulds take any PF on the outside) or because of his C+ inside...

Except for Yao, Shaq, Tanner and Araujo, most of the centers seem to be about 6'10" to 7'0", and ranging between 240 and 260 lbs.  The PF's seem to be very similiar to the C's, except for the big guys.

I am very curious to see how much weight and height have an effect on a players effectiveness..  Both Mercer(height) and Hobson(weight) will be good players to observe for this year.

IMO Dalembert is better than Mercer.  So I don't see the validity in the comparison.

And I just want to clarify.  I had Hobson rated #11 in the draft, and the top pf.  He should come in and give you 14-15 ppg and 8 boards.  I certainly don't think he's a bust.  And I have seen MUCH bigger reaches.  It's just not the way I would have gone.

Debate is good.  If everything was sure-fire and we all approached this the same, it would be a boring league.

Well, you rated Mercer as top 4 in the draft... Which mean you must have had Sammy rated even higher then that.
And I forgot you had Daniels, so I thought your PG spot was more dire then it actually is.   :oops:

Debate is the fun part... lol

I did not have Hobson ranked high on my board mostly because I already have 4 frontcourt players I feel are better.
Plus, without really understanding height/weight influences that well, they do make me nervous.  This season, Hobson and Mercer will give alot of information about those things. (Probably need to watch Chandler more too.)