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Title: With the 5th pick Post by: NetsGM on March 22, 2005, 07:49:07 PM The Pacers select:
Bob Diddle, SG, UC Irvine Title: With the 5th pick Post by: RaptorsGM on March 22, 2005, 07:49:36 PM Bit of a surprise there.
I get my choice of PGs :) Title: With the 5th pick Post by: NetsGM on March 22, 2005, 07:51:46 PM Kind of odd that the pacers traded a swingman to move up, then draft a swingman.
I mean, Diddle certainly has potential to be better than Jackson, but I'm not sure Snow is a starter. Title: With the 5th pick Post by: CavsGM on March 22, 2005, 07:57:16 PM Sigh of relief.
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: BullsGM-old on March 22, 2005, 08:09:06 PM Wow, I really thought they were gonna draft Ellis. O well, looks like I get my PG now :)
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: RaptorsGM on March 22, 2005, 08:22:46 PM Yeah, guess whos drafting Ellis now.
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: RaptorsGM on March 22, 2005, 08:32:42 PM Wow, this really is shocking, because the Pacers really need a PG. I guess they plan to get one with the MLE.
I'm very happy about this. I thought I was going to have to pick between Diddle and Mercer. Now I don't. Title: With the 5th pick Post by: CavsGM on March 22, 2005, 08:59:14 PM So you're picking Ellis? Good choice.
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: RaptorsGM on March 22, 2005, 09:25:02 PM Quote from: CavsGM So you're picking Ellis? Good choice. Sure am. A year behind Cassell is exactly what he needs. Title: With the 5th pick Post by: HornetsGM on March 23, 2005, 02:56:45 AM tough to challenge the pick
easy to challenge the trade Title: With the 5th pick Post by: PacersGM on March 23, 2005, 04:45:27 AM Quote from: NetsGM Kind of odd that the pacers traded a swingman to move up, then draft a swingman. I mean, Diddle certainly has potential to be better than Jackson, but I'm not sure Snow is a starter. Snow won´t start for me :D and i moved up to get a chance at either a C or a SG because Reggie retired. So maybe Diddle can fill in for him. We will see after FA and TC. Title: With the 5th pick Post by: RaptorsGM on March 23, 2005, 07:14:31 AM I think Snow and Johnson could PROBABLY handle point dutites for you...but I smell a trade...
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: PacersGM on March 23, 2005, 07:42:30 AM Quote from: RaptorsGM I think Snow and Johnson could PROBABLY handle point dutites for you...but I smell a trade... i am not sure what you smell :lol: yea both are able to handle the pg duties. i think diddle will be the best shooter and one of the best defenders out of this class. i was undecided between him and ellis. but i had to go for the bigger need and that were clearly shooting. Hope i did a good job as a newbie :lol: Can´t wait till FA starts :D Title: With the 5th pick Post by: NetsGM on March 23, 2005, 09:24:11 AM I'd take Diddle over Ellis as well.
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: GoldenStateGM on March 23, 2005, 09:45:43 AM Well remember... The Pacers can still sign Tinsley to whateever contract he wants. Looks like they may make a big push to keep him...
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: PacersGM on March 23, 2005, 09:52:21 AM Quote from: GoldenStateGM Well remember... The Pacers can still sign Tinsley to whateever contract he wants. Looks like they may make a big push to keep him... at least one GM is taking care of buisness :) yea i will go for tinsley. he should give me a solid starting pg. Title: With the 5th pick Post by: RaptorsGM on March 23, 2005, 03:01:37 PM Diddle was rated better, but team needs make it Ellis as the better pick for both me and pacers, IMO.
Title: With the 5th pick Post by: GoldenStateGM on March 23, 2005, 03:08:34 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM Diddle was rated better, but team needs make it Ellis as the better pick for both me and pacers, IMO. Actually, in my rating system, Ellis is ranked higher... Ellis may not become a great ball handler, but he will probably be a great scoring point. That B- inside is real nice... Title: With the 5th pick Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on March 23, 2005, 03:27:41 PM Quote from: GoldenStateGM Quote from: RaptorsGM Diddle was rated better, but team needs make it Ellis as the better pick for both me and pacers, IMO. Actually, in my rating system, Ellis is ranked higher... Ellis may not become a great ball handler, but he will probably be a great scoring point. That B- inside is real nice... Why would you want a PG that is more about scoring than distributing the ball??? If you have other good players, your PG shouldn't have to score... If you look at PG's in the draft, and base the ratings on "PG skills", Ellis is maybe the 4th best PG in the draft... If you rate players in this draft based on "postion skills"(ex: PG = Outside, Handling, Defense), here is how the top 10 would be ranked(keep in mind potential is not a factor in this rating) 1 - Mason Mercer 2 - Oscar Ferry 3t - Tanner Houbregs 3t - Garrett Pettit 3t - Alvin Schenk 6t - Bob Diddle 6t - Troy Havlicek 8t - Ethan Terpening 8t - Lorenzo Ellis 8t - Josh Parker 11t - Emanuel Griffin (2 others tied for 11th) Title: With the 5th pick Post by: GoldenStateGM on March 23, 2005, 03:40:35 PM Scoring points are all the rage.. :wink:
And a guard with (B) (B) in both offenses is almost a guaranteed 20 ppg scorer. And there are some PG's with B ratings who averaged over 7 apg... Title: With the 5th pick Post by: NetsGM on March 23, 2005, 04:00:58 PM It also depends on how much you weight attributes.
And that depends on the gm's preferences. So there's no sure-fire rating. That's why this is fun. Title: With the 5th pick Post by: RaptorsGM on March 23, 2005, 05:40:15 PM Ellis has a "B" handle. Which could easily go up to "B+" by the end of next years training camp/ B+ is excellent.
Ellis is the perfect fit for my team. I want to win this year, and I don't wna to try and do it with a rookie PG, so I bring in Cassell for a one year stand. Ellis learns behind him, and is ready to take over next season. |