Title: Preseason Post by: MagicGM on April 03, 2007, 10:04:25 PM can we have preseason 2 simmed also on the 1st 20 days? so that we can compare the stats easily? :D
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: HawksGM on April 04, 2007, 07:58:37 AM can we have preseason 2 simmed also on the 1st 20 days? so that we can compare the stats easily? :D lol, I planned on doing it 2 different, if some other people like this idea just say something in this thread and I will think about it. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: MagicGM on April 04, 2007, 08:00:16 AM can we have preseason 2 simmed also on the 1st 20 days? so that we can compare the stats easily? :D lol, I planned on doing it 2 different, if some other people like this idea just say something in this thread and I will think about it. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: HawksGM on April 04, 2007, 08:02:46 AM 2 different schedules? or first sim 1-20, 2nd sim 21-40? 2nd sim 21-40. I was going to do it 2 different schedules but that would involve me putting in a whole new depth chart, even for the people who don't change theirs. So 2nd sim would be 21-40, it doesn't matter to me though, I can run the same days twice with 2 different lineups. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: SixersGM on April 04, 2007, 08:17:14 AM Im all for a 2nd preseason sim.
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: HawksGM on April 04, 2007, 08:21:59 AM Im all for a 2nd preseason sim. which one, days 21-40, or re-simming the same ones w/the edited DC's Title: Re: Preseason Post by: MagicGM on April 04, 2007, 08:34:28 AM hm.. cant you save the file after inputting the whole dc and run preseason 1? so that you won't have to re-edit the whole for preseason 2.
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: HawksGM on April 04, 2007, 08:40:12 AM hm.. cant you save the file after inputting the whole dc and run preseason 1? so that you won't have to re-edit the whole for preseason 2. yea, but I meant with 2 whole different schedules it would be a pain. I saved before I advanced to next season so that the schedules would be different for pre-season and regular season. But I am going to save after I put in the DC's, so I can either do 21-40 or 1-20 twice. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: SpursGM-old on April 04, 2007, 09:23:45 AM I would prefer running days 21-40.
Reason: some teams will play only 10-12 games in the first 20 days and others will play 17-19 games. If we run the same days then those same teams will get the same number of games. By using days 21-40 then the overall schedule will balance out more so that most teams will have played a similar number of games. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: CelticsGM on April 04, 2007, 10:22:21 AM I agree with Doug, let's run days 21-40.
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: HeatGM on April 04, 2007, 10:42:29 AM i like magic's idea...since your would be facing the same opponents on the 2nd preseason thus you would easily compare how well your DC is..
if you run day 20-41 on the 2nd preseason sim it would be difficult to comapre it in the first preseason sim since you would be facing a weaker or a stronger opponent.... Title: Re: Preseason Post by: MagicGM on April 04, 2007, 10:43:50 AM can we have it run 1-40 for each then? haha.
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: RaptorsGM on April 04, 2007, 12:52:30 PM I prefer the 1-20 and 1-20 again
I think alot of us probably plan on changing our lineups drastically between the two and it's so much easier to have seperate stats for each preseason Title: Re: Preseason Post by: JazzGM-old on April 04, 2007, 01:08:56 PM i don't agree with being able to see a different roster against the same teams...real teams have to try out different rosters and a lot of times takes them until the 2nd half of the season to figure it out, i think we, as fictional GMs to keep the legitimacy of the simulation, need to go through the same problems...
if anything, I would be for somehow forcing individuals to carry on injuries from preseason to the regular season, if we could find a way to force them to place those individuals on the IR. Real teams wouldn't be playing their stars 30-40 minutes a game, we'd have the optino to still do it if we watned, but we'd be responsible for injuries that'd occur...now if we forced them on IR for example when the regular season came up..if they were supposed to be out 21 days, perhaps we'd only force a 2 sims on the IR, or if it's 26, perhaps 3...if not just vote to round down so that 21-29 days would still be forced on the IR for 2 sims, just so there's at least some possible consequences for all the advantages that the preseason sims give us.. only problem is it would create extra work for the commish any thoughts? Title: Re: Preseason Post by: KingsGM-old on April 04, 2007, 01:11:13 PM Can we have the preaseason today?
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: SpursGM-old on April 04, 2007, 01:15:07 PM Quote I think alot of us probably plan on changing our lineups drastically between the two and it's so much easier to have seperate stats for each preseason So if you change your lineup then you want to face the same team. But if your opponent also changes his lineup then you are not facing the "same" team. Simple logic dictates this only works if you are the only one changing. Changing 29 variables in an equation will not allow comparable results. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: CelticsGM on April 04, 2007, 01:48:23 PM i guess what he means that the roster file will show "clean" stats each time. Sure the competition does vary, but you get the idea ... and don't have to calculate stats
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: SpursGM-old on April 04, 2007, 02:03:12 PM So what do people do during the regular season? They download the info and calculate the stats. If you change your lineup during sim 3 or sim 8 how do you know what the new player stats are?
Rerunning the same 20 days is not a good answer just so people can easily calculate stats. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: NetsGM on April 04, 2007, 03:03:29 PM Quote Rerunning the same 20 days is not a good answer just so people can easily calculate stats. It's not for calculating stats, it's for easy comparison. For example, it's nice playing the same # of games, against the same competition. If I want to try some changes to my from fast to slow, I can easily directly compare the results to the other pace. Makes sense to me. I don't see the benefit of running different days. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: SpursGM-old on April 04, 2007, 03:15:38 PM Quote Quote Rerunning the same 20 days is not a good answer just so people can easily calculate stats. It's not for calculating stats, it's for easy comparison. For example, it's nice playing the same # of games, against the same competition. If I want to try some changes to my from fast to slow, I can easily directly compare the results to the other pace. Makes sense to me. I don't see the benefit of running different days. But the competition won't be the same unless you can guarantee that none of your opponents will change their DCs. If they change their DCs then your players are facing different competition and thus the results are not comparable. Title: Re: Preseason Post by: NetsGM on April 04, 2007, 03:33:29 PM No, but conditions are going to be closer to being equal than playing entirely new opponents.
Title: Re: Preseason Post by: HawksGM on April 06, 2007, 03:21:15 PM It seems that popular demand will be the same 20 days, that's what I will do. Bold changes on DC's.
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