Title: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 04:39:34 AM It's been simmed up to day 34, so the total statistics are now cummulated for preseason sim 1 and 2.
Cavs were even hotter this sim, losing a mere game to hold the league's best record at 19-4 currently (and showing my Celtics where they belong in the process) Nuggets were even better in sim 2, winning all 10 games. (guess the Nuggets pick won't be lottery, Mavs) and for the rest, check yourself: http://preseason.ssbabasketball.com/preseason2/ (btw, since you asked: if i was clever enough to save the league file BEFORE simmind preseason 1 i would have done days 1-17 again, but i wasn't, and doing 29 complete DCs is about three times the effort than doing the changes only now. The only people truly hurt by this are those who have injured players - like Mahor missing all but 3 days in sim 2. Special sorry to them ... but hey, in real life you can get injured in preseason too, and that is NOT nullified for the real season start, so feel lucky !) Stats of the day: By 48min averages ! PPG: Dwight Howie (54.6ppg !!!) / Stevie Schmaltz (40.3) / Gatling (38.9) RPG: Laporte (20.5rpg) / Barner (19.2) / Priddy (19.1) APG: Milner (12.9apg) / Arbogast (12.7) / Ramsey (12.7) SPG: Brewer (4.4spg) / Uner (4.2) / Alvin Schenk (4.1) BPG: J.Holton (5.9bpg) / Darren Fleisher (5.7) / Munson (5.5) TOPG: Mason Mercer (7.8topg) / Eschmeyer (6.9) / Caleb Fowler (6.6) enjoy ... 8) Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 04:51:45 AM note to the Raptors: I can't put two people on IL if you only have 12 players on your roster, so unfortunately they both did play - even heavy minutes - despite not being in your DC.
and a note to all GMs: For the regular season, bods will start with a FRESH league file. No injuries or statistics carry over from the preseason, and NO DC SETTINGS TOO !!! So please submit FULL DCs for sim 1 and no need to bold changes, it's a fresh start anyway. When you put "SAME" bods will most likely use "cpu recommended" - at least i would ... :lol: and yet another note to all GMs: when you submit a DC, the correct order for game settings is: pace trap press off focus that's how it's entered into FBB. If you put press before trap in your DC I might have missed that (i tried to check it, but after 20+ DCs you lose concentration), so please change it for the regular season to avoid confusion. And yes, I have seen about 5 different versions of this order in preseason, so it IS worth mentioning. Thanks ! Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: SonicsGM on February 01, 2007, 05:56:24 AM Very pleased with Yao...who dropped over 30PPG in this sim after not playing the first sim.
Nicklaus English came close to three triple doubles. Wiley Peck is a dominant small-man on the glass. Rolando Blackman might not win ROY, but he could be the most important rookie this year if he keeps up this kind of play. (14.1 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 3.1 APG, 2.0 SPG in 36.5 MPG) All in all, this could be a very good squad Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on February 01, 2007, 07:41:45 AM 10-2 this sim moving to the top of the west. Still with a couple regular starters coming from the bench. Also completed a sweep of the Cavs accounting for 2 of their 4 losses. Further analysis is needed but a couple youngsters look like they may be sticking around.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 01, 2007, 07:48:16 AM wow.
What happened? Went 6-6 first sim, 3-11 the other one. Terrible. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: MagicGM on February 01, 2007, 08:14:12 AM note to the Raptors: I can't put two people on IL if you only have 12 players on your roster, so unfortunately they both did play - even heavy minutes - despite not being in your DC. just wondering for an easier work for bods.and a note to all GMs: For the regular season, bods will start with a FRESH league file. No injuries or statistics carry over from the preseason, and NO DC SETTINGS TOO !!! So please submit FULL DCs for sim 1 and no need to bold changes, it's a fresh start anyway. When you put "SAME" bods will most likely use "cpu recommended" - at least i would ... :lol: and yet another note to all GMs: when you submit a DC, the correct order for game settings is: pace trap press off focus that's how it's entered into FBB. If you put press before trap in your DC I might have missed that (i tried to check it, but after 20+ DCs you lose concentration), so please change it for the regular season to avoid confusion. And yes, I have seen about 5 different versions of this order in preseason, so it IS worth mentioning. Thanks ! when you're done putting in the dc, can you like save the file and send it to him instead before simming? so that bods would only change a little Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: MagicGM on February 01, 2007, 08:18:16 AM all my lost came against the cavs :(
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 01, 2007, 08:21:27 AM As expected, my backourt is doing great but defense and huge hole inside is hard to overcome. I'll try with smaller lineup and faster pace to compensate somehow this gigantic hole inside the paint.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: NetsGM on February 01, 2007, 08:55:07 AM Toyed with Munson backing up C and PF, and overall while I liked what I saw, he's my best bet to start at the 4. McHale is a pretty decent scorer at the 3, and Macauley has shown enough signs that I might just keep him around. Al Wood has shown enough flashes that as a late pick, he's a nice addition. I think King's position might have been mis-entered as he was listed at PF and I keep him at the 3, but he seemed to hold his own there too. Not sure which way Im going to go with my guard rotations - probably what I ran last year - nothing conclusive enough at first blush to help me make me change my mind.
Ended up 13-8 (5-4 this sim), so this bodes pretty well for the regular season when I play my two best scorers. Looking forward to Fridays sim. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: WizardsGM on February 01, 2007, 09:14:52 AM So incase no one else noticed, we went 10-0 that sim with the most minor changes possible. Time to look at the box scores, everyone else must have been playing scrubs.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: WizardsGM on February 01, 2007, 09:20:15 AM My frontline is very very exciting.
Gminski: 33.4min, 16.0ppg, 10.4reb, 1.8stl, 1.6blk Buck Williams: 31.8min, 18.1ppg, 11.4reb, 2.4ast but only 0.8stl, 0.9blk Fuqua: 29.5min (never started a game, backup C/PF/SF) 14.6ppg, 9.5reb, 1.2blk Team was 4th in rebounding as a whole, but Ransey's 4+ turnovers are going to trouble me. Just not sure what I am going to do with my SF/SG rotation involving Donta Smith and rookie Albert King and throw in Michael Brooks (11/6). Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: BlazersGM on February 01, 2007, 09:51:06 AM good to see i've kept #2 despite putting some cripples to play to see how they'll do
....and cripples cant play....Ahye was solid, Kittles is completely useless, Livingstone is a pimp, Phelps is amazing, Booz is Booz and Buehler will have most likely his best career season this time after improving his inside/outside shooting and handles this TC. No heavy losses except vs Bucks(but we beat them as well) and thats good, we can obviously play against any team. Phelps played with Magic like a little baby :lmao: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 10:12:39 AM ... when you're done putting in the dc, can you like save the file and send it to him instead before simming? so that bods would only change a little no. i can't ... as i explained earlier. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 10:18:34 AM Tyler at PF is far less effective than at C, which will make my rotation an interesting task for the first few sims.
Orlando Woolridge did suprisingly well starting at SF, getting good rebounds and a fine shooting % while playing anyone not named Manning or McHale pretty well. He'll make a nice bench player. Same thing can't be said for Mr. Veen who clearly lost his backup spot to fellow 2nd rounder Dylan Pettit. Chills is just Chills, which is perfectly fine with me, and the return of Perry should bolster my backcourt productivity. btw, Jamal Sampson held Dwight Howard below his "per 48min average" of 54.6ppg. Sure, the manchild scored 55 on 20-42 shooting, but he also played 50min in that Magic OT victory. Well done ! 8) Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 01, 2007, 10:21:35 AM Phelps played with Magic like a little baby :lmao: Um, wooooow, 23 pts, 6to's on a 11-26 of shooting. Phelps is unstopable. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on February 01, 2007, 10:33:39 AM Thanks for the note Tom - stupid thing was I was very aware of that, and as soon as I posted my DC I meant to go sign a couple plugs. Woops.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 10:42:24 AM Phelps played with Magic like a little baby :lmao: Um, wooooow, 23 pts, 6to's on a 11-26 of shooting. Phelps is unstopable. In two matchps this preseason against Phelps, Magic had game1: 31/10/4 on 13-20 shooting with 4 steals and 4 to's game2: 12/3/6 on 4-11 shooting with 3 steals and 3 to's In two matchps this preseason against Magic, Phelps had game1: 19/5/7 on 9-24 shooting with zero steals and 5 to's game2: 23/11/4 on 11-26 shooting with 2 steasl and 6 to's averages: Magic 21.5ppg, 6.5rpg, 5apg on 55% shooting with 7 steals and 7 to's Phelps 21.0ppg, 8.0rpg, 5.5apg on 40% shooting with 2 steals and 11 to's Ivan, guess this is the first time this year i've been with you: I have no ide what the hell he is talking about ... :lol: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 01, 2007, 11:34:42 AM I don't even know who is that guy. Phelrps?
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 11:39:45 AM he's the guy that lifted them from "making the playoffs" to "playing for the conference title" status in recent years. But I guess 29 GMs here would choose Magic over him anyway.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: BlazersGM on February 01, 2007, 01:34:50 PM Phelps played with Magic like a little baby :lmao: Um, wooooow, 23 pts, 6to's on a 11-26 of shooting. Phelps is unstopable. i was refering to DEFENSE in that game, Magic 4-13 from floor on Phelps C defense, IMPRESSIVE !! And Phelps always has high to's 'cause he plays PG/SG/SF in rotation, im used with that. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 02:22:04 PM I guess if a guy shoots 55% you can take lot's of TOs.
But lot's of TOs, just a handful steals, and shooting 40% ? tss tss ... luckily it happens vs Magic only ... :lol: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: BlazersGM on February 01, 2007, 05:42:53 PM i was just joking with Ivan how Magic had a poor shooting night vs a guy who cant defend a shit and is not a superstar or anything (on my team he is sort of 'cause without him i would be lotto last season), Phelps has been TOP 10 in topg since being a Blazer, that's nothing new.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 01, 2007, 07:03:09 PM just joking too.
I know he's a stud otherwise and important to your success. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 01, 2007, 07:05:42 PM Fuck Magic.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 01, 2007, 07:30:21 PM These coaches are retards. How the hell can you go with Tony friggin Parker over Deron Williams. Just ridicilous.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: HeatGM on February 01, 2007, 10:09:41 PM BERTRAM SHULTZ = SHAWN MARION :hail:
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 02, 2007, 01:27:30 AM BERTRAM SHULTZ = SHAWN MARION :hail: you mean a great player on both ends of the floor who regularly chokes once the postseason arrives? congratulations then ... Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: PacersGM on February 02, 2007, 03:01:21 AM These coaches are retards. How the hell can you go with Tony friggin Parker over Deron Williams. Just ridicilous. i agree that parker isnĀ“t deserving an allstar nomination over guys like melo, josh or even odom. but even worse is the selection in the east imo. taking both kidd and carter and leaving out the bulls completly is horrible. i expect from coaches that they also take team record into their consideration. imagine if skiles would have had the honor to coach the game without anyone from his team :shock: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 02, 2007, 07:20:13 AM I disagree on that. What have the Bulls done so far? They're underachieving big time. And i don't see a single guy who's having a all start season on that team. They work as a unit, as a team. Who's their best player anyway? Kirk Hinrich? 15ppg and 6apg? Those are not all star numbers. Specially when your team is 3 games above .50 in a laughable East.
And speaking of Nets, i have no idea why people are against Carter and Kidd being a All Stars. That's stupid. With all the injuries they have Nest are definitely overachievements. It's really a wonder how they manage to win with basically 2 people. That team is pathetic, and the only reason why they're in a playoff run and a dangerous opponent every night are Carter and Kidd. They definitely deserve it IMO. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 02, 2007, 08:41:54 AM OMG, what a bull....
no, the Nets are not deserving a playoff spot with leading a division with a sub .500 record. Oops sorry, they are behind the AllStar squad of the Raptors. The only reason why they are still holding onto the 8th spot is tha fact that Shaq and Redd were injured for the majority of the season. They'll drop out soon. Carter wouldn't even start for a team like the Bulls. (at least he wouldn't make them any better). And talking Bulls: Kirk is their best man defender, kind of a Bruce Bowen with handles and a shot, who can (and has to) run a team apart from defending. But the most deserving guy, responsible for the majority of their wins, is 22ppg Ben Gordon. He's shooting a better % from everywhere than Carter and does it for a winning team. Sorry, but Carter is just living from his past achievements nowadays. (similar to Stevie Non-Franchise, who got more allstar votes than Rip Hamilton !!!!) :lmao: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 02, 2007, 09:11:47 AM Well your entire post is such a idiocy that i don't even know where to start.
But, in short; Bulls - completely healthy the entire season: 26-20 (wooooooow, what a powerhouse) Nets - completely cripled with injuries (Jefferson and their ONLY reliable big man Krstic): 22-24. I'm done with you. Bulls are a JOKE. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: MagicGM on February 02, 2007, 09:29:38 AM VC to Orlando.
I think Gordon's defense hurts the bulls too. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: MavsGM on February 02, 2007, 09:48:26 AM And talking Bulls: Kirk is their best man defender, kind of a Bruce Bowen with handles and a shot, who can (and has to) run a team apart from defending. But the most deserving guy, responsible for the majority of their wins, is 22ppg Ben Gordon. He's shooting a better % from everywhere than Carter and does it for a winning team. Sorry, but Carter is just living from his past achievements nowadays. (similar to Stevie Non-Franchise, who got more allstar votes than Rip Hamilton !!!!) :lmao: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: WizardsGM on February 02, 2007, 10:16:39 AM Hey dont knock the Raptors. 10-5 last month!!
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 02, 2007, 10:25:03 AM I stop reading the rest when you compared Kirk to Bruce. then you make a big mistake. Hey it's pretty tough to play great man to man defense when great help defenders like Ginobili and Duncan are there to get you additional protection. And when your "offense" consists on throwing up 5 treys a game. Sure Bowen is still better but Kirk has to cover BOTH ends of the floor. Kirk and Bowen are probably the only ones (or among a handful) in the league who can keep Dwyane down consistently, proven over and over and over again. :-) Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 02, 2007, 10:28:12 AM Hey it's pretty tough to play great man to man defense when great help defenders like Ginobili and Duncan are there to get you additional protection. And when your "offense" consists on throwing up 5 treys a game. Sure Bowen is still better but Kirk has to cover BOTH ends of the floor. Um..ever heard of this guy called Ben Wallace? Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 02, 2007, 10:38:36 AM as Stevei Kerr called it: the only thing Ben Wallace has defended this season is his right to wear a headband. Sums it up pretty much what he's done for the Bulls so far.
They are 26-20 DESPITE him. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 02, 2007, 10:41:27 AM btw, the Nets are 11-15 WITH Krstic and RJeff.
Playing power houses like New York, Toronto, Philly and Boston, the Nets have a losing record in the WORST division in the history of the NBA. Ouch. :lol: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: BlazersGM on February 02, 2007, 10:58:45 AM unfortunately i have to agree with Tom on this one, Ivan stop talking crap, you're embarassing our family :)
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 02, 2007, 11:09:45 AM btw, the Nets are 11-15 WITH Krstic and RJeff. Playing power houses like New York, Toronto, Philly and Boston, the Nets have a losing record in the WORST division in the history of the NBA. Ouch. :lol: Ouch what? At the begging of the season Bulls were looking fantastic as well. What was it? 4-13? 7-15? Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 02, 2007, 01:50:18 PM 3-9.
that happens when you work 5 new players (Big Ben, PJ, Thabo, Tyrus, Kryhapa) in your rotation. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 02, 2007, 02:02:33 PM Well yeah, that's completely diferent team from the last year playoffs. When i first saw em, i was like...um...are those Bulls? Man, i can't recognize no one, that's ENTIRELY diferent team! I mean soooo much trades and signings, that's definitely a chemistry killer. It has to be. Actually the more i think of it, considering all the circumstances, 3-9 is actually a fantastic record. Mad props for them.
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on February 02, 2007, 02:30:50 PM This thread has gotten way off topic. If you want to talk about the NBA or all-star selections then start a new thread in the proper forum (off topic discussion) :bash:
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 02, 2007, 03:30:49 PM well, three things to consider:
1. The new people to work in include 2 starters and 2 key reserves. 2. From the first 12 games, 9 were played on the road (including a 5-game west coast trip) 3. The Bulls rely on TEAM PLAY (*) probably more than any other team in the league. So 3-9 is a bullshit record, but considering these circumstances not completely surprising. Going 23-11 since looks better (albeit on a home-laden schedule) (*) Ivan, since you never heard of that concept, let me explain it this way: It includes NOT going one on five for 40 every night. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 02, 2007, 04:25:37 PM Whatever.
Kidd & Carter >>>>>>>>>> any player on a Bulls team. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: LakersGM-old3 on February 02, 2007, 07:08:49 PM i wish this draft class was a little better. With all my picks i wish there was some better talent
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: MavsGM on February 02, 2007, 07:15:09 PM i wish this draft class was a little better. With all my picks i wish there was some better talent That's not the real draft list.Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: BlazersGM on February 02, 2007, 07:43:03 PM Hey kids (Tom & Ivan) open Bulls - Nets - ASG - WHATEVER discussion thread in off-topic section :D
:lmao: :bods: :tup: :cheers: Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: HeatGM on February 03, 2007, 05:02:43 AM im waiting for Len Bias draft...the "wat ifs"..... :D
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 03, 2007, 08:44:07 AM i wish this draft class was a little better. You ain't see nothing yet. There's league where David Robinson has 7ppg and 6rpg in his 3rd year. I swear! Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: BlazersGM on February 03, 2007, 08:45:43 AM lair
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 03, 2007, 08:50:57 AM You ain't see nothing yet. There's league where David Robinson has 7ppg and 6rpg in his 3rd year. I swear! there's also a league where #1 pick David Robinson is playing BACKUP in his 3rd season, for whatever reason. I swear as well ... Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 03, 2007, 08:55:28 AM Hey, are we talking about the same league??
You saw that as well?! Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: BlazersGM on February 03, 2007, 09:20:19 AM Maybe the guy is tanking on purpose :p
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on February 03, 2007, 09:29:10 AM In that case he should've let David to play more. :lmao:
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: CelticsGM on February 03, 2007, 11:37:05 AM do we have a count "ivan posts that are actually funny" ?
cause that one truly is (for a change) ... :-) Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: LakersGM-old3 on February 05, 2007, 09:30:27 AM so where do I see the real draft class?
Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: NetsGM on February 05, 2007, 10:04:17 AM It hasn't been created yet.
When it has, I'll announce it. Title: Re: Preseason sim2 discussion Post by: LakersGM-old3 on February 05, 2007, 10:06:47 AM ok, thanks boss. I know I am jumping the gun a bit, but I am like a kid in a candy store with all these picks.
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