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Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on January 26, 2007, 02:41:45 PM
PreTC:
http://files.ssbabasketball.com/files/2018/TC/PreTC/

PostTC:
http://files.ssbabasketball.com/files/2018/TC/PostTC/

Discuss


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: BlazersGM on January 26, 2007, 02:51:29 PM
pure disaster, except for Buehler who improved in, out and handles + 2nd rounder Ewing who got A- handles. Boozer lost D, Livy outside, Clement outside and D, rest the same, damn.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: GrizzliesGM on January 26, 2007, 03:07:02 PM
The first thing I checked was how Albert King turned out.

C+    B    C    B    C    C

I am very glad I traded him! Also, the Pacers should be glad they did not trade for him.

Also the Nets got a steal with Gary Macauley in the 2nd round.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: WizardsGM on January 26, 2007, 03:34:15 PM
Yaya Grizz....I know.....ah well
King lost 1 grade of IN and thats it and POT went down 1

Gminski gained 1 IN, lost 1 HND, lost 1 POT
Buck gained 1 HND, lost 1 POT
Baylor lost 1 D, gained 1 REB
Ransey gained 1 REB, lost 1 POT
Trump lost 2 IN, gained 1 OUT
Johnson lost 1 IN, 1 HND
Gola, my 2nd rounder, gained 1 OUT, 2 DEF and maintained A POT
Fuqua gained 1 HND

So.....not good for the future


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: SpursGM-old on January 26, 2007, 03:36:04 PM
Overall the team went up +3 ratings.  A couple surprises, some steady improvement and 1 shocker.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on January 26, 2007, 03:37:48 PM
Ugly. Doesn't really matter, but ugly.

Was hoping for a good TC from Zollner. Didn't really get one. Max regressed as well.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: BucksGM on January 26, 2007, 03:44:42 PM
mehta improved inside and rebounding.  now a B+/A-/A in inside/defense/rebounding. 

Carmelo's outside improved.

Mihm's handling went up to A-

It was a good camp for us.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: GrizzliesGM on January 26, 2007, 03:47:28 PM
I am disapointed that none of my prospects really improved much. I kept the prospects hoping for something good instead of making so more fa signings.

Raul Doleac= +1 inside, -1 potential
Dickerson=same
Trenton Lo= -1 outside, -1 defense, -1 potential
Paul Maggette= +1 potential
Herb Williams= -1 potential
Tony Curran= -1 defense, -1 potential
Caleb Anderson= +1 inside, +1 outside, +1 handle,
Jason Richardson= -1 outside
Jarrett Omeara= +1 inside, +1 defense, +1 rebound, stayed at A potential
Trenton Dench= -1 defense

I guess I did pretty well this TC though I wanted more from my projects. I am really happy with Anderson who i picked up in fa, and Doleac who will be my #1 scoring option now. 


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: WizardsGM on January 26, 2007, 03:52:16 PM
holy Caleb Anderson batman!

I had him a few years ago and he rode the pine, now look


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MavsGM on January 26, 2007, 03:59:51 PM
Bailey Tobey +1 inside and Def but -1 in rebound and Pot overall +1  Turning into one of the top center.
James Clardy +1 handles -1 rebound overall +0
A.J. Dial +1 outside and handles -1 inside and defense overall +0
Jeremy Palacio +1 inside, handles and Def but -1 rebounding  After all those years with no improvements Palacio had a godd TC.  I will probably try him out at PG.
Allen Biasone +1 outside, handles and Def 
Vince Keogan +1 inside -1 rebound  Now AA- scoring.
Jordan Payton +1 Def -1 outside
Frank Johnson -1 outside


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: SonicsGM on January 26, 2007, 04:00:51 PM
Rolando Blackman!!!!

Pre TC:
C+, B+, C, B, C-, C
Post TC:
C+, A-, C, A-, C-, B

Up three spots in the important areas, plus a jump in potential.  He is definitely the starter at SG for this club.

Also, Mark Wootten improved dramatically as well:
Up 4 spots (handles, defense, reboundingX2)

Wiley Peck up two (inside and handles, down in rebounding)
McPhereson up two (outside and defense)

Others:
Cartwright picks up a handles
Hubbard picks up a rebounding
Cannon picks up a defense

Overall, I am very pleased with this TC.  And, most importantly, Yao stayed the same


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: JazzGM-old on January 26, 2007, 04:16:50 PM
Good news:

Toney improves +1 handles, +1 def

*Rookie* Byron Thomas improves +2 def to A-

Theus improves +1 inside

Russell improves +1 out

Gresham improves +1 in, +1 def (but loses -1 in handles)


Bad News:


Dial -1 handles

Duncan -1 defense, -1 rebound

Nelson -1 defense, -1 rebound

Vandeweghe -1 in, -1 defense

Summary:

-WATCH OUT for Andrew Toney this year.
-Byron Thomas could be a surprise, his ratings are very similar to Dial's rookie ratings, that could go many directions, however.
-Theus secured the starting job from Vandeweghe, who is turning into a bust.
-Dial will continue to be a great complement to Toney
-Defensively, some main players in my rotation have improved (Thomas, Toney, Gresham) not to mention the addition of Van Exel
-Julius Russell may prove to be an Antonio Daniels type player
-Concerns: finding a rotation for PF and PG




Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: LakersGM-old3 on January 26, 2007, 04:17:27 PM
Not a good first Training Camp for my squad.  Everybody got worse, with the exception of my 2nd round pick Jeff Lamp who is on the IL to start the season.  Phil Ford has the starting job, but has no room for error as I have 2 other capable point guards.  I look to outscore opponents instead of trying to play a 1/2 court defensive game.  We want to put up 120+ PPG and my Training Camp did not help that at all.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: HawksGM on January 26, 2007, 04:25:52 PM
Nothing good to say about my Hawks.  The bright spot is that nothing significantly bad occured.  I think that this team will be mediocre at best again this year.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MavsGM on January 26, 2007, 04:26:42 PM
Not a good first Training Camp for my squad.  Everybody got worse, with the exception of my 2nd round pick Jeff Lamp who is on the IL to start the season.  Phil Ford has the starting job, but has no room for error as I have 2 other capable point guards.  I look to outscore opponents instead of trying to play a 1/2 court defensive game.  We want to put up 120+ PPG and my Training Camp did not help that at all.
I never seem a team in FBB history to come close scoring 120 PPG and you want your team to put up 120+ :eek3:


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on January 26, 2007, 06:39:24 PM
Ok TC.

Tom Chambers gained on defense & reboundings.

Magic lost on potential and inside scoring. He'll be a beast anyway.

Isiah gained on defense and looks just fantastic.



This is going to be interesting season.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on January 26, 2007, 06:54:41 PM
Oooh God no...Celtics turn blue!


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: HornetsGM on January 26, 2007, 07:19:58 PM
I definitely have the worst team in SSBA history.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on January 26, 2007, 08:01:06 PM
for once a TC I can be satisfied with, especially when having some vets on my squad.

John Tyler had a great TC, improving handling, defense to "A" and now has B pot. I take B+/A /A- from my big man any day.
Everette Strait improved his shooting, inside and outside, and will start. His def is still average, but he kept "B" pot too.

Perry, Dirk, and Chills lost a bit, but no big deal. Vets will compensate that ...

Among the young guns, Dylan Pettit improved reb +2 and def +1, keeping "A" pot. He passed Veen in the hacking order for now. Orlando Woolridge also gained on defense and potential, at B- inside and B def he'll see quite a few backup minutes.


Overall, my team's TC sums up to ZERO change. And that includes backups Dirk, Tsakalidis, Sampson, Benoit, and Reed, who dropped a combined 8. As I said, pretty good stuff for my team this year ...
 8)


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: LakersGM-old3 on January 26, 2007, 08:10:48 PM
I have only ever been in one short sim league.  I do not remember what the average scores were.  I guess my hopes are a little too high, right Mavs :lol2:


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MagicGM on January 26, 2007, 08:14:28 PM
I'm pretty happy with the improvments of Dan and Kyle. :)


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MavsGM on January 26, 2007, 08:15:35 PM
Your goal is unrealistic for sure.  The highest score in SSBA was in 2010 by the Nets with 109.4 PPG. :tup:


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on January 26, 2007, 08:22:55 PM
Pretty happy with TC - +12 grades overall. Exactly one player regressed - and by one barely noticeable grade. Six guys stayed exactly the same, give or take one grade of scouted potential, and a couple shuffled (+1 here, -1 there). A few guys grabbed grades right where I wanted them, Harold Morey got a bit more useful, and one player went +4. I needed a good TC to keep moving forward, and I'm glad it came.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on January 26, 2007, 08:26:11 PM
Oooh God no...Celtics turn blue!

:?:


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on January 26, 2007, 08:37:52 PM
Means you're mod now. Now you're gonna mollest us all days long. And specially me!


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on January 26, 2007, 08:49:19 PM
oh, thats what you mean. No, that's only for doing the preseason sim DCs, I won't harrass anyone, not even you ...


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: PacersGM on January 27, 2007, 04:07:48 AM
for once a TC I can be satisfied with, especially when having some vets on my squad.

John Tyler had a great TC, improving handling, defense to "A" and now has B pot. I take B+/A /A- from my big man any day.
Everette Strait improved his shooting, inside and outside, and will start. His def is still average, but he kept "B" pot too.

Perry, Dirk, and Chills lost a bit, but no big deal. Vets will compensate that ...

Among the young guns, Dylan Pettit improved reb +2 and def +1, keeping "A" pot. He passed Veen in the hacking order for now. Orlando Woolridge also gained on defense and potential, at B- inside and B def he'll see quite a few backup minutes.


Overall, my team's TC sums up to ZERO change. And that includes backups Dirk, Tsakalidis, Sampson, Benoit, and Reed, who dropped a combined 8. As I said, pretty good stuff for my team this year ...
 8)

do we look at differnt roster pages.. in mine tyler lost defense not gained one.


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on January 27, 2007, 10:43:29 PM
rasta ccolira da nemože biti kulje!!


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MagicGM on January 28, 2007, 04:57:25 AM
rasta ccolira da nemože biti kulje!!
what he said..


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: BlazersGM on January 29, 2007, 11:56:04 AM
Bad TC overall but nothing to worry about too much.
Starting center remained the same, too bad none of the rookies made any progress but they're
all 19/20 so there's time.

Boozer lost defense, but he was never a great defender anyway.

Clement was huge disappointment losing outside and defense but Phelps remained same so he'll
start instead on SG and Buehler is back on SF after a fantastic TC, he improved inside,outside
 and handles and he can actually score now, im really happy about that.

Livingstone lost outside but A-/A+/B works great with me still over Telf's B-/A-/A- and not
 to mention height.

Too bad Rubini went from B+ to B- so Nolan will be my starting center.

And well only bad thing is Clement, he lost his place after Buehler's great TC but still
now we lack a 6th man off bench who can score and defend.

Really happy with 59th pick Ewing who got A- handles, 20 y.o only, he could develop into
something in few seasons, looks very promising.

Rookies:
Lister -1 inside, +1 pot
Ahye +1 pot
Kittles -1 hn and df BYE BYE
Ewing +1 handles

Oldies:
Rubini -2 defense
Boozer -1 defense
Bosh -1 inside
Buehler +1 inside, outside, handles
Houbregs -1 defense
Livingstone -1 outside
Bird -1 defense
Clement -1 outside and defense

No Changes:
Nolan Johnson
Phelps
Austin


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: BlazersGM on January 29, 2007, 11:57:55 AM
rasta ccolira da nemože biti kulje!!

Something in croatian, but even i cant understand it clearly, he must've been drunk.

What the hell is KULJE ???? Worse ? Is that in martian ?


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: GoldenStateGM on January 29, 2007, 03:05:48 PM
Hmmm...
Training camp was quite unimpressive for the Warriors...
Was hoping for more from Cliff Robinson...
And Also hoping Larry drew quold improve his handle, which went down instead.
Don Collins did improve, though, making him likely the long term solution as SF...


Title: Re: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: ClippersGM-old on January 29, 2007, 06:31:55 PM
Good, but could have been better. I just expected something more. However still satisfied. Especially with Sura and Haskins.