SSBA

Part 1 -

Pistons Trade:
Paul Maggette

Hawks Trade:
DeSagana Diop
$5,000,000 Trade Exception
2016 Pistons 1st Round Pick

Part 2 -

Pistons Trade:
Larry Hughes

Hawks Trade:
Sandy Watson
Charles Phelps
James Fisher
Detlef Oberle

According to the HawksGM everything works cap-wise...

Pistons Accept...

I accept, everything works in trade checker, im happy to improve my starting 5 but didnt want to lose phelps but i had to give something

When broken into two parts the trade does not work.  Maggette makes 13,140,000.  Diop makes 5,775,000 and even adding the exception plus the extra 15% does not match up.

Did you add in the cap space the Hawks have???

Oops.  No I overlooked that.  Sorry.

Trade doesn't work.

If you're using cap space, you have to have enough cap space to absord the entire differential, not get within 15%

Does Maggette have to be traded as a single player or can he be a package???  I am unsure since it is the offseason...

This works:

Maggette

-for-

Diop
Watson
Fisher
2016 Pistons 1st

AND

Hughes

-for-

Phelps
Oberle
$5,000,000 Trade Exception

I accept this trade too...same thing but different pieces

wow...this is a nice trade for the hawks...bringing in two good starters for depth....hawks is now finally making a move to reach the playoffs...this is all nice for the hawks...congratz  :D

I'm looking to make the playoffs and if I don't well then this deal really wasn't worth it, but hopefully I do and can maybe make some noise!!

definately a stron gdeal for the hawks...maggette, thompson, and hughes, yikes

....wade, holton

As of right now, this trade is cancelled...  It has been re-worked and will be posted as soon as the Hawks go over the salary cap...

i doubt this trade can be cancelled.

As far as I know bods, if the 2nd posted deal, that has been accepted too, works, it's a done deal, count on it.

The 2nd deal would have worked only before the Hawks drafted their 2nd rounder...  That is why it had to be re-worked again...  Thanx for your concern though...

just try to help wherever i can.

well, the deal acceptance from the hawks was posted well AFTER the Hawks pick selection was announced, so if that's the reason it's not working than it shouldn't work like posted. And if it's not working it's no deal, even if it's off by a fraction ...

You are correct that the posted deal doesn't work

So go ahead and try a variation, but hughes + maggette can't be combined.

When could they be combined, this off-season shit is very confusing???

Also, the original trade should work...  You do not need enough cap-space to absorb the difference, or else there is a glitch in the Trade Checked you have us using...  What you are saying is that you can't trade a $20,000,000 for a 21,000,000 if the team only has $500,000 in cap-room to absorb...

According to the Trade Checker, this works:

Paul Maggette

-for-

James Fisher
Desagana Diop
Charles Phelps
2016 Pistons 1st
2017 Hawks 1st

part 2

Larry Hughes

-for-

Sandy Watson
Detlef Oberle
$5,000,000 trade exception

PISTONS ACCEPT...

actually it's pretty easy.

when both teams are over tha sal cap trades must be within 15%
when one team has cap space left, the trade must be within that cap space.


Pistons are over the cap
Hawks have 1.8 mio cap space

Pistons send 23.5 mio salaries
Hawks will have to send AT LEAST 21.7 mio salaries


The strange thing is, if the Hawks had NO cap space, they ould only need to send approximately 20.4 mio salaries. And now somebody tells me he REALLY understands the CBA ...
 :bash:

as CelticsgGM said, 15% rule only applies when both teams are over the cap.  the trade checker I might have may not take that into account, and we've apparently never run into it.  I will look at it over the weekend and see what I can do.

I am sorry, but this is fucking stupid...  and it makes no fucking sense...  Am I basically screwed???  Your basically telling me it is not possible to make a trade and have it make one team go over the cap...  Wat are my options???  Wait till he signs one player that puts him over the cap???  This is completely pointless...

and thus the last posted deal still doesn't work.

Maggette makes slightly less than the Hawks cap plus Fisher/Phelps/Diop. so part 1 is ok
after the first deal the Hawks have 73k capspace left
but in deal 2 Hughes makes MORE (10.3) mio than Watson/Oberle + 73k (=10.02 mio). Doesn't work.

So the Hawks have to add one more player to their side of deal 2

Sorry for my ranting, but I put a decent amount of time into getting this to work using your trade checker and you are saying it's no good... 

I don't care what you came up with...  according to the TRADE CHECKER,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IT WORKS...

FBB is saying the salaries are legal now, so it will go through.

And to clarify, Pistons, FBB didn't come with a trade checker.  The trade checker is something I put up a considerable amount of my own damn time putting together.  Nowhere did I claim it's 100% accurate (although it's pretty goddamned close). 

BTW, when using the trade checker, did you update the hawks salary under cap room at the top?

ok i accept all, but did both trades go through now???

yes, both trades went through.


Was the last one accepted by both parties, and it went through.

hmmm, the last trade accepted by both parties had the Hawks pick in it too (and that makes the deal pretty even then).

No it didn't.

Only once was the Hawks pick mentioned, and that's when the Pistons was ranting about it working in the trade checker.  In both the previous revisions, the Hawks pick wasn't mentioned.  Pistons threw it in there at the end, but it was never accepted by the Hawks (and Hawks commented after I had already ran the sim).

Sorry about that, it was just frustrating me big time and I had a lot of shit going on at home...  Very happy it went through...  Pistons - Hawks will have another trade posted...  Thanx