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Title: Wiz / Pistons Post by: WolvesGM on July 13, 2006, 11:54:38 AM Wizards Trade
Paul Maggette Kenneth Wheat 2015 Kings pick 1st(21st) 2015 Pacers pick 1st(23rd) 2017 Wizards pick 1st for Pistons trade Steven Schmaltz Patrick Kent Agreed, maybe a 3way trade this afternoon, posted because i need to go and wont be online to accept Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on July 13, 2006, 12:18:56 PM Wizards Trade Paul Maggette Kenneth Wheat 2015 Kings pick 1st(21st) 2015 Pacers pick 1st(23rd) 2017 Wizards pick 1st for Pistons trade Steven Schmaltz Patrick Kent Agreed, maybe a 3way trade this afternoon, posted because i need to go and wont be online to accept Pistons Accept... Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2006, 12:22:13 PM Oh wow, Pistons.
You just traded a 27 year old All-Star (who is huge) for a 28 year old mediocre C...Then you add your best prospect in Kent, and get back a weak, weak prospect in Wheat.... So basically, You take a huge downgrad at C, a huge downgrade at PF, and pick up 2 late firsts and a future first? Wow. Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: NetsGM on July 13, 2006, 12:25:06 PM Eh, I don't consider Patrick Kent a great prospect. He's a career backup in my eyes (baring a few HUGE training camps). Right now he's mediocre offensively, poor defensively, and nothing more than solid on the boards. Career backup.
Here's the way I see it. Maggette is not mediocre. On a good year he's good for 15/11, and he'll get nearly 3 bpg. That's the key. Schmaltz did NOTHING defensively. No blocks. no steals. And didn't keep his man in check. Maggette gets nearly 0.5 more steals per game, 2.5 more blocks per game, and does a good job on his man. Now, is that worth a 12-13 ppg downgrade? No, probably not. But 3 good draft picks is solid compensation for the lost offense. Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2006, 12:35:26 PM Eh, I don't consider Patrick Kent a great prospect. He's a career backup in my eyes (baring a few HUGE training camps). Right now he's mediocre offensively, poor defensively, and nothing more than solid on the boards. Career backup. Here's the way I see it. Maggette is not mediocre. On a good year he's good for 15/11, and he'll get nearly 3 bpg. That's the key. Schmaltz did NOTHING defensively. No blocks. no steals. And didn't keep his man in check. Maggette gets nearly 0.5 more steals per game, 2.5 more blocks per game, and does a good job on his man. Now, is that worth a 12-13 ppg downgrade? No, probably not. But 3 good draft picks is solid compensation for the lost offense. Not a great prospect, no, but easily the best on a weak Pistons team, and a former rookie of the year. And I'm not so sure about the career backup thing, if he improves inside/defense/rebounding by just one each he could be the next Timothy Adams. Maggette is better than mediocre, you're right. But if a guy gets 3 bpg and over 1 spg, with his A- defense, that probably means he's pretty weak man-to-man. I just don't like it at all for the Pistons. Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on July 13, 2006, 12:40:03 PM #1 - This is the best offer I have recieved...
Now that we got that out of the way, Schmaltz had to go... He was basically the only Valuable asset on my team and all he could do is score and rebound... I was going to trade him straight up Schmaltz -for- Maggette and Pick #21... But he wanted Kent and that is how I got the other 2 Picks... Also, Kent has yet to improve in 2 TC's... Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on July 13, 2006, 12:41:49 PM Eh, I don't consider Patrick Kent a great prospect. He's a career backup in my eyes (baring a few HUGE training camps). Right now he's mediocre offensively, poor defensively, and nothing more than solid on the boards. Career backup. Here's the way I see it. Maggette is not mediocre. On a good year he's good for 15/11, and he'll get nearly 3 bpg. That's the key. Schmaltz did NOTHING defensively. No blocks. no steals. And didn't keep his man in check. Maggette gets nearly 0.5 more steals per game, 2.5 more blocks per game, and does a good job on his man. Now, is that worth a 12-13 ppg downgrade? No, probably not. But 3 good draft picks is solid compensation for the lost offense. Not a great prospect, no, but easily the best on a weak Pistons team, and a former rookie of the year. And I'm not so sure about the career backup thing, if he improves inside/defense/rebounding by just one each he could be the next Timothy Adams. Maggette is better than mediocre, you're right. But if a guy gets 3 bpg and over 1 spg, with his A- defense, that probably means he's pretty weak man-to-man. I just don't like it at all for the Pistons. I can almost guarantee that the players I get with the #21 and #23 Picks will be as good if not better prospects than Kent... Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on July 13, 2006, 12:46:24 PM Another thing about Schmaltz i couldn't stand was that Damn FT%... The guy is Shaquille O'neal for everthing BUT DEFENSE... Atleast Maggette shot 75%... That is pretty damn good for a Center...
Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2006, 01:00:51 PM Eh, I don't consider Patrick Kent a great prospect. He's a career backup in my eyes (baring a few HUGE training camps). Right now he's mediocre offensively, poor defensively, and nothing more than solid on the boards. Career backup. Here's the way I see it. Maggette is not mediocre. On a good year he's good for 15/11, and he'll get nearly 3 bpg. That's the key. Schmaltz did NOTHING defensively. No blocks. no steals. And didn't keep his man in check. Maggette gets nearly 0.5 more steals per game, 2.5 more blocks per game, and does a good job on his man. Now, is that worth a 12-13 ppg downgrade? No, probably not. But 3 good draft picks is solid compensation for the lost offense. Not a great prospect, no, but easily the best on a weak Pistons team, and a former rookie of the year. And I'm not so sure about the career backup thing, if he improves inside/defense/rebounding by just one each he could be the next Timothy Adams. Maggette is better than mediocre, you're right. But if a guy gets 3 bpg and over 1 spg, with his A- defense, that probably means he's pretty weak man-to-man. I just don't like it at all for the Pistons. I can almost guarantee that the players I get with the #21 and #23 Picks will be as good if not better prospects than Kent... You're going to get a player at 23 that is better than the rookie of the year from 2 years ago? I seriously doubt that. I mean, this draft was deep, but c'mon. Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on July 13, 2006, 01:13:48 PM Eh, I don't consider Patrick Kent a great prospect. He's a career backup in my eyes (baring a few HUGE training camps). Right now he's mediocre offensively, poor defensively, and nothing more than solid on the boards. Career backup. Here's the way I see it. Maggette is not mediocre. On a good year he's good for 15/11, and he'll get nearly 3 bpg. That's the key. Schmaltz did NOTHING defensively. No blocks. no steals. And didn't keep his man in check. Maggette gets nearly 0.5 more steals per game, 2.5 more blocks per game, and does a good job on his man. Now, is that worth a 12-13 ppg downgrade? No, probably not. But 3 good draft picks is solid compensation for the lost offense. Not a great prospect, no, but easily the best on a weak Pistons team, and a former rookie of the year. And I'm not so sure about the career backup thing, if he improves inside/defense/rebounding by just one each he could be the next Timothy Adams. Maggette is better than mediocre, you're right. But if a guy gets 3 bpg and over 1 spg, with his A- defense, that probably means he's pretty weak man-to-man. I just don't like it at all for the Pistons. I can almost guarantee that the players I get with the #21 and #23 Picks will be as good if not better prospects than Kent... You're going to get a player at 23 that is better than the rookie of the year from 2 years ago? I seriously doubt that. I mean, this draft was deep, but c'mon. Did you even look at his stats that year??? 9 PPG and 6 RPG... Don LaPorte put up 21 and 11 this year and didn't win the award... That should really tell you something... Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: NetsGM on July 13, 2006, 01:35:28 PM Yeah, um...rookie of the year means beans.
Title: Re: Wiz / Pistons Post by: CelticsGM on July 13, 2006, 02:28:10 PM I agree with trev here, none of the remaining players is even remotely compareable to Kent. Sure, he did only improve a rating in 2 TCs but he also kept his A pot. All decent big men still on the board need a great TCs to even become Kent, and none of those has A pot.
And while Schmaltz hs his limitations, he looks like a young Hoffa to me. Big scorer, good rebounder and little else. But hey, who couldn't use a guy like that? The Wizards got a GREAT deal here and will be a sure playoff team again, considerably better now, while for the Pistons the last year of mediocracy (remember how we ripped last offseasons trades?) will find it's continuation, as his young team will need spome time to develop the picks. |