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I don't watch soccer. Can you guys give me your top 10 teams in Soccer World Cup? So I can have a few ideas about soccer. :D

I can not put them in order of who is going to win it all. But I can give you my idea of who the big favorites are:
Argentina, Brasil, Tsjech Republic, Spain, Germany

Very good, but not big time favorites:
England, Portugal, France, Croatia, Sweden, Netherlands, , Italy

Good outsiders:
Ecuador, Mexico, Ghana, USA, Japan, South Korea

Ivory Coast, I find that a very good team. Too bad they are already out of competition as they were in a tough group and lost 2-1 to both Argentina and Netherlands.

Favourites:
Brasil, Croatia, England, Czech Republic

Behind Them:
Argentina, Spain, Netherlands, Mexcio

Minimum Chances:
Italy

Don't stand a single chance:
Sweden, France, Ecuador, South Korea, Ghana

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Man, we may have to erase Czech Republic off of our lists. They got their asses kicked by Ghana today. Great game that was!

Oh and believe me... Argentina is with the favorites!!!

Unbelivable. They were just manhandled. And worst of all, now they probably have to win against Italy no less in order to advance further.

And in that case Italy may be out of the tournament when Ghana beats USA!

great games today.

That Ghana-Czech Rep was a beauty and did show why fottoball can be so entertaining. Two teams playing offense, up and down all the time, without any break in the action. If Ghana wins 6-0 you could hardly argue, but Czechs also were just a few steps away from a goal sometimes. Pure entertainment, and boy did the Africans show some perfect ball handling.

And then the US showing more than just a sign of life against Italy. Too bad they couldn't get that 2nd goal to count, but they did show "german" spirit and fight and did prove why they are #5 ranked in the world currently.

A pity two of the four teams will be eliminated soon, but i hope the Italians go out, they play the most "boring" style ...
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well to give my opinion.....Ghana's win wasnt a suprise for me.....actually i lost about dollar today (i could have win about 70 dollars) on betting today, i knew Ghana will upset Czech's, but my mistake was in putting USA winning my +1 margin over Italy (which could have happen).......1st round problem was that Czech's play good against teams like USA and Italy had and has always the formula for african teams, round 2 was a complete opposite, Czech's dont know how to play such style of soccer and i knew USA would either draw or win vs Italy but unfortunately they drew so i didnt get my money hehehee......there's always teams who play hard against other "school" of soccer (like for example south american vs. ex-communist Russian alike school......and dont get me wrong, ARG didnt trash YUG because of "magic", it was a thing that happens once in a history, and those guys have too many problems, probably if they played the next day another game it would end up with a draw, but there's many factors why they lost and i dont really care to discuss it here, im happy about it, but ARG wont get far, im sure about that)......now to not talk too much.......i really just hoped Italy and Croatia will advance and meet each other in 1/16....for the same reason i was talking about.....Italy just doesnt know how to play vs my country, after all we've played some 7 games, never lost....on the other hand, i wanted to skip Czech's because altough we just played once and it was a draw i believe my team would lose or maybe win in some crazy game after penalty's or something.....soccer today is very even and it depends a lot on a style and football school of the nation.......i'll just give a good example.....Mexico for example, in friendly and official games have beaten Brazil 4 times, drew 3 and lost just 1 in last 11 years, those that proof Mexico is better ??? not of course, but Brazil just doesnt know how to face their school, just like Italy losses every time to my country, and there's many examples........honestly i wish USA and Ghana could pass to next stage from that group, Ghana playing Brasil and USA Croatia as i think Croatia would have a much tougher task vs Ghana then USA, and Brasil vice-versa as well, Brasil had problems with USA style always......now i just hope Croatia gets Italy...........and ill stop talking now 'cause i got tired of writing  :lmao:

They'll get out vs Croatia in next round if they meet, count on that :)

Manchester United is a famous team. Are they really that good? Did the team joined the tournament?

Man U is a famous team. Until 3 years ago they even were a very good team too.

Well my friend, forget that hope. Argentina would beat S&M 8 out of 10 times, simply being the better team, by far. Not 6-0, true, but that score was a mentality problem (you think being close in skills is enough and lay down when things get ugly).

All this "history lesson" you gave us doesn't mean too much in this tournament. We soon enter single game elimination stage and EVERYTHING can happen there. This is soccer after all. Take the last world cup. You think South Korea would win a best-of-5 aginst Italy, Spain? Hey they were playing on pure emotion and beat far superior teams.

Sure, Mexico can beat Brasil, Italy can beat Croatia and Trinidad & Tobago can beat Sweden or England in a penalty shootout. But don't count on either to happen.

Finally, that Croatia showing against Brazil was fun to watch while it lasted. But there's a reason why everyone internationally was disappointed: The south americans played on cruise control, never NEEDED to shift into 2nd gear. They led the ONLY other competitor in their group 1-0 and simply played out the game, not breaking too much of a sweat. Nice "morale victory" for the Croats but believing they actually could have won, nah ...
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I agree with Tom, not so much with Blazersgm. Btw, Blazers, how come you KNOW everthing, but you tell us AFTER the game. You could also say, I thought or I did believe...

About that group E, where you want both USA and Ghana to advance to the next round. That is impossible. It will be either one of them, or none of them, depending on Thursdays games.

Guess after a few more matches we can safely move Ghana to "behind them" status. No, i see that the Czech miss one of their offensive centerpieces without Koller but the way one of the best European teams (technique, game-play) was outplayed convinced me.

France, btw, is ALWAYS good for a deep run. Croatia a FAVOURITE? Didn't they lose to a team playing on cruise control? No, they are still "behind them" until proven otherwise. Also remove the Czech from there, no fav gets embarrassed like that.

For the "no chance (at a title)" collection: how about Costa Rica, Iran, Tunesia, Saudi Arabia, Togo, my beloved Trinidad, S&M, Japan, Australia (please ...), Ecuador, Paraguay, and sure a few others i forgot to mention now. Everyone else HAS a chance, in this type of tournament (just look up Germany 2002 & Argentinia 1990, the all-time suckiest teams making it to the finals) ...
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Clipps i ment before the start of tournament i wanted those 2 teams to advance, and well Tom, you forget one thing, the goal scored by Brazil was a great goal but it was only 'cause of the fact that our DMC got injured 3 mins before the goal, he is essential to our team just like Emerson for Brasil, you think Brasil would be that good without Emerson ?? he's everything there,who would replace him, Ricardinho hahahhahahahaha  :lmao: ? a guy whom whole Brasil hates 'cause he cant run 10m, is slow and unfortunately for them he's the only backup for Emerson at most important position of brazilian soccer, and to get back to my point, after Kovac got injured, on his side stepped in Leko who didnt play last few months 'cause he didnt want to re-sign contract and what happened ? Kaka scored the goal 'cause he had a lot of space to take an easy and beautiful shot...why ? because Leko was not there like Kovac/or Emerson on the other side would've been for sure to make a foul or block the shot or simply just take the ball....after all Kaka said it all after the game: "We didnt play bad but croatians played excellent and they read our game too good, but one good shot decided the game". After all Tom, you love stastistics...Croatia is the first team after 9 years who had ball possession more then Brasil...and who was voted POTG ? Dida.....and talking about 2nd gear is a compelete nonsense, in world cup nobody plays with less then 120 %(unless in 3rd round if you have a secured place to advance)....all other statements are pure crap just like Perreira's who said we played around 60,70 %....complete crap, if they played that Japan would trash them with few goals, was just a lame excuse for media.

And im very happy YUG lost 6-0, but trust me, out of 10 games, ARG would win 4, drew 3 and lose 3....well depending where they play also but YUG had a lot of problems, many players boycott the coach who is montenegran...there was few fights between players, even recent politicial shit there influenced such a debacle, and media especially, even the coach said it was the first and last time he listened to the media and made a mistake, i call him an idiot listening to the media but well, nobody cares, im happy they lost anyway....just wanted to say that was not the YUG from qualifiers who played very good, conceded just 1 goal (less then any other team in any Q zone) and that goal was received in a shame match in Spain where Spain scored in 97th minute (it looked like referee was waiting for Spain to draw so he can finish the game).


anyway....game with Japan starts in half hour, time to grab some beers and go to Copacabana to watch the game  :cheers:

freakin' unbelievable....11 100% chances missed, 1 penalty missed, 2 posts...thank god they Japan didnt punish that with the good old rule "if you miss your chances you'll lose at final"......now we have to beat Aussies to advance...too games like this are not possible i believe.  :bods:

and i thought Ghana was bad at converting. At least they BEAT a very good opponent. Just watched the last 10 minutes and it was ONLY Japan with a big chance to score ...
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Scratch Croatia from "favourites" AND "behind them" for now ...
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yeah they had 2,3 good chances, but none a what we call a 100 %...anyway, i wouldnt scratch, but definitely now its harder, we need to beat Aussies, with win over Japan draw would be enough but well, if we cant beat Australia then we dont deserve to go to next round...but after 0-1 vs Brasil 0-0 vs Japan i guess its time for 1-0 now hehehe, third luck !! team definitely didnt have luck today, but well...its simple, we beat Australia and we're there....interesting thing so far is that none of the teams actually impressed, and i mean NONE....especially all the favourites....only african teams Ghana and Ivory Coast impressed me so far, but they won't go all the way but Ghana for sure will mess up either Italy or Czechs and maybe someone else at later stage, too bad Ivory Coast isnt in the same position, i love the way both teams played so far,  :cheers:

Australia - Croatia will be a biggest event, not only in sport, but overall, in the last 10 years of our country. I can swear there will be no living soul in the entire state who won's watch that game.

I expect a full chaos after we win.

I just can't belive we missed the PK..Kiki was jumping all over the place

biggest problem we have is when retarded Olice comes in....just cant get it WHY THE HELL HE PLAYS....those 3,4 runs he made and those 3,4 "LAUGHABLE PASSES" he made in those runs im sure any other player on planet earth would send better, if it was another player passing that ball we would score in those last 15 mins after he came inside......penalty is penalty....it can always be missed, its lottery....but player RETARDED like Olic is born once in 7000 years....or better said NEVER....i wish japanese defender broke his leg or something so he never plays soccer for us anymore, that guy scored 4 goals in his first 6 matches for country, then didnt score next 23 matches, then scored 2 retarded goals vs Italy at last WC, then didnt score again ever....and they keep calling and calling him and let him play, thank god we have Klasnic now so he is not a starter anymore but still.....if he'll play vs Australia it will be very hard to play with 10 against 11 when he enters the pitch so i hope we get an early lead there.

I'm wondering the same fuckin question myslef for the last 5 years. I just hate the guy

all 4.5 million croatians + those 9 million in other parts of the world hate him too i believe....but obviously those few coaches dont agree with millions !

That's it, i had enough. 7 beers, 5 joints, a friggin draw with lousy Japan, i'm going to sleep.

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