SSBA

Hey guys,
I've decided to go ahead and push back tomorrow night's Sim 3 to thursday night (and bump everything back a day).  I didn't want to, but Thursday's my last class (!), so at that point I won't have anything to worry back.  I've got a ton of stuff to do between now and thursday and I didn't want to have to worry about getting the sim up before all that's finished.

Then, I'll have days off again!  (I haven't had a day off since March).  Then sims will become regular again.

ok, life first.

btw, no parties at the night of your last class?

Haw.

I have to wake up for work at 7 am the next day.

that sucks. what do you do for a living, anyway?  :)

Server Administration (webservers, database servers and mail servers)

oh, i see. do you own it yourself? or is it a part-time job?

I both own a small business (which was really just supplemental income) and work for a large (relatively speaking) webhosting company

Sim 3 up.

Wow...  Could I have any more injuries?
Start the sim with Luol Deng out for 5 games...
Then I lost Jim Finley, my starting center (and most improved candidate, imo)
The I lose Andre Igoudala...
Then I get back Luol Deng...  Absolutely nuts.  This next game is sim 4 will be the first time I have had my starting lineup available in 10 games.

Wowzers...6-0 sim for the Raptors, best record in the league at 14-4 (after a 3-3 start).

Anyone still want to call the Melo trade a steal for the Mavs, with Boykins averaging 21.6 and 10, and Jackson getting 15.7 and 5.8, after being benched the first sim.

At first glance, my sked hasn't been all that tough...on FIRST glance. Of the 18 games played, only 8 have been against playoff teams. However, TWELVE have been on the road, where I am 9-3, compared to 5-1 at home. This team IS the real deal, in case you were wondering. With a starting lineup aged 26-27-30-29-24, I can enjoy another 3-4 years of the same if not better results from this group.

Lil' more in depth now...

Raptors 102 Knicks 73 -- Good way to start the sim, take care of a poorer team in a big way. Boykins leads the way with 30 and 14, great game for him. Max adds 20, 8 boards and 5 dimes, and Swift scores 14 and grabs 16 while blocking 4. 71 rebounds in the game for the Raptors, the highest I have had in a long, long time. Held the Knicks to 27.9% from the floor, the lowest I have seen in a long, long time. Great game on the defensive end.

Raptors 110 Queens 99 -- Again, it's Boykins in a HUGE way, as he puts up 38 and 14 against former Rap Gasol. Max adds 21 and 11 assists to the charge. And oh yeah, ZERO turnovers. Swift puts up 21 and 11 boards as he really wakes up offensively this sim. Jackson and Chills both struggled, but the amazing game from Boykins was enough to get a convincing road win.

Raptors 117 Spurs 108 -- Spurs had some nice balanced scoring with 6 guys getting 14+. However, it's Boykins again with 29 and 11. Max adds 22 and 11 assists. Jackson has a nice game with 20, and Swift adds 17 and 12. Shot 54% from the floor.

Raptors 104 Lakers 85 -- Another easy win. Jackson puts up 26 on 12-16 shooting. Boykins has an "off night" with 23 and 14. Max gets 20 and 7. Shot 53% from the floor.

Raptors 116 Nets 95 -- Season series now stands at 2-0 for the Raptors. Jackson's 28 lead the way against the struggling Dunleavy. Max adds 24 and 8 assists. Chills and Boykins both add 17, and combine for 18 rebounds. Hunter and Brown combine for 24 off the bench, really the reason for the win. Very impressed with Boykins' defense on Emeka.

Raptors 120 BUcks 88 -- Nothing like a 32 point blowout to close out the sim. Swift finds his scoring touch and puts up 26 on 12-17 shooting to add to his 11 boards and 3 blocks. Boykins gets 17 and 10. Chills adds 17 and 12 boards. Max scores 14 and adds 15 assists. Shot 53.6% from the floor.

How good Boykins was that sim cannot really be stressed enough. A double double in every game, and averaged 25.7ppg and 12.2rpg over the course of the sim.

Wow.

lol pacers on a 9-0 win streak even without artest...
beat the hornets in OT... sure some of the teams where lotto teams but i take any win i can get this year.

Nice.

4-1 sim (though none against top opponents) and only a 1pt loss to Nuggets away from a 9 game in streak myself.
Marion set a new Celtics team high with 48 pts and the team a new record with 135 pts against Rockets (on 62% shooting, nice game)
Julius cooled down a bit, 7apg and 3topg isn't what i look for (but 28 team ass per game show we spread the wealth there), but hey, he's still a 2nd round pick rook

Anyway, i have big big defensive deficiencies this season and i won't outscore opponents forever, especially in the playoffs. These need to be solved !
 8)

 :lmao:
how about ONE of the 9 teams was a playoff team (maybe 2 if you include the poor Nuggets who entertain a spot on a losing record) ...

it saddens me to have a 3-6 sim which has not happen for a long time now. Al Jefferson was missed this sim, his contributions were sorely missed by the team. Ivan litwack made some noise as my 12th man, and is looking for some PT.

Bad sim..  :(



Injured Fuqua..  :(



Mavs won over Jerold's Heat  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

 :lmao:

maybe you should recount your wins
and if you can´t win at home against nuggets you should better stop telling everybody how good your team is
 :bounce:

hey mathe genius!  :lol2:
Last time i checked nuggets where a PO team, sonics, cavs and suns are not the best teams but still close enough to 500 to respect them.
And a OT win against the hornest is something you can be proud of.

Bah, subpar sim. Lost the first 3 games and then won the next 5. 5-3 overall. Still just a one game out of the first seed in the West.

I did that ? Oops, sorry, but couldn't find it here.

My win total is 12, my loss total is 8, my record in games decided by 8 pts or less is 1-6, my point diff is 8.8 (3rd) and the size of my sneakers is 11.5

I know that we are miles away from beating teams like the Nets, Hornets, Raptors or even Kings in a series. Speaking of Hornets, it's definitely not ME who can be proud of an OT victory over Hornets cause my Celtics got beat up badly in NO/OKC ...
 :bash:

Raises hand.

Well, bods, a 14-1 record since day 3 of the season with road wins over Nets, Magic, Pacers, Kings and some more over Nets and Hornets at home, ALL coming by 10+ diff is something to acknowledge.
 :hail:

And you tell me he could have gotten these results sans George/Luke but with Melo too ?

winning sims continue thank god....im still only team to win all games at home, a 9-0 record.Buehler went out for 9 games,
4 more in next sim, its gonna be very hard without him.

+32 vs Jazz....Hoffa 35/9, Clement excellent with 24/7/7, Telf 13/7/13 stl, Buehler 11/12 3stl 3blk, Juan with double
digit as well.

-20 @Warriors....starting lineup good, Hoffa 20/14, Clement 18/5, Buehler 18/8 4stl, Telf 11/12 3stl, no help from bench
unfortunately.

+15 vs Hawks....Hoffa 27/13, Clement 20/7/5 4stl, Buehler went down.

+14 vs Lakers.....Hoffa with 39 3stl 4blk but just 5 rebs, Juan added 22, Clement near triple 16/9/9 3stl, Telf 14/12.

-36 destruction in Orlando....Hoffa usual 25/15 but 10to's my god, absence of Buehler is way to big for this team.

+10 vs Jazz....Hoffa monstrous 42/22 2blk performance.


....now lets see how this team will survive next sim without Buehler, a 50 % sim would be very satsifying...i except to
see Clement as MIP at the end of the season definitely, and soon to replace departure of Schultz completely altough
already his stats are even better.

The fact that you are playing well for a 2 sim span doesn't mean you couldn't have played well with carmelo, yes.  And the fact that you couldn't add the pieces to play well without giving up carmelo doesn't mean it couldn't be done.

Because Melo does....what?

He scores alot. 26 a game. He rebounds average for his position, and his an a:to ratio just above 1. He steals 1 ball per game and blocks 1 shot per sim.

As far as I'm concerned, Melo is good for 26, nothing else. I'm filling that void with a 22 and 10 PF, a SF very comparable to Melo (with 10 ppg less), and a mid first round pick next year when mid first round picks just became very valuable.

Perhaps Bods is still feeling the effects of day 17 and 28?

"play well" ... hehe, i'd call that KICKING SOME MAJOR ASS, thinking WHO he beat and HOW.
I'd even go so far as proclaiming the Raps the team to beat this season. Not quite the DJSL Nuggets but still the hottest commodity currently.
 :D

But true, one can always do better in trades ...

Oh please, this is ridicilous. Team to beat after one good sim?

so we are calling Boykins and Jackson multi-faceted players?  Both with their B+ defense, with Boykins 0.8 blocks/game and 1.2 assists/game?  Both with less assists than turnovers?

You're playing well right now.  That doesn't change my opinion on the trade.


Perhaps I have learned after a 70 win season last year that what happens in sim 2 or 3 is meaningless.


It's not often we agree.  But I appluad this post.

2 good sims. 18 games into the season is a pretty fair estimate of how things are going to go.

So...what's your point? Boykins doesn't block alot of shots or dish the ball much...neither does Melo.

Jackson doesn't pass the ball much...neither does Melo.

But are you going to tell me that getting 26 a game from your SF position is more valuable than a mid-first, 22 and 10 from your PF position and 16 from your SF position? C'mon.



Erm...meaningless? So the season starts to matter sim 4? Well, because you are often short of time, how about next season we start at day 40, since everything before that doesn't matter?

I applaud your 70 win season, I congratulate you on making the finals 5 times. But I've won 14 of 15 with the team I have assembled. I ask you to list a trade I could have made for melo that would have allowed me to win 15 of the last 15, as that was the only way the trade could have been any better for me.

Melo is great, but hey...

Whatever. I had numerous hot streaks such as that, that doesn't mean i or you are the team to beat.

And besides, you current record is 14-4.

Nets are 17-5
Kings 15-6
Clippers are 16-5

As you can see, that's all only one game here and there, so it's little bit premature to tell who's THE team to beat.

I never once said I was the team to beat. That was the CelticsGm (and I appreciate that kudos).

Nor have I made an predicitons about the rest of the season.

All I have said is with my current starting lineup I am 11-1. I currently own the best record in the league, having played 12 of my 18 games on the road, many against the other top teams in the league. This is nothing that is debatable. It is fact. Am I the top team in the league? I don't think so. Am I a team that will win homecourt in the East? I think so.

But you made the point that Melo gives you 26 ppg (and on your team it was higher), and I don't think either Luke or Boykins give you much more than scoring either.  Never really have.


First of all, I don't appreciate the shot at the sims being run.

Second, what I'm saying is the regular season doesn't determine success in the postseason.  The fact that you've won now doesn't mean you'll win in the playoffs.  I would argue that it doesn't really matter what seed you are (after the top 4) once the playoffs begin.  so the fact that you've won a few games in the beginning of the season isn't proof.

You gained some nice depth in the trade.  I'm just not a fan of trading for depth when you have one of the top options.  Nor do I think the depth you've acquired has put you into championship contention.  And I think if you do trade a guy capable of putting up 30 ppg, you should do so to get in championship contention.  But we shall see.  I don't see why there's so much venom in your post simply because I disagree.

Umm....

Shot at the sims being run? Is it or is it not a fact that you are often short of time?

And venom? There is no venom in my post. I am disagreeing with you that sims 1-3 are meaningless. I'm not mad that you disagree. I'm not getting angry about it, I'm simply saying that it doesn't make much sense to say the first 1/4 of a season is meaningless.

I respect your opinion, and I'm actually glad that you disagree as it (a) has given us something to debate when there don't seem to be many more debatable issues going on in SSBA these days, and (b) gives me more incentive to make this team go as far as I can make it.

But I'm not mad, and if you could hear my tone (which you obviously can't on the Internet), you would find that the tone I used in that post was incredulous, not hostile. 

Very true with Jackson, but I'll take Boykins' 10 rebounds/game any day since he's paired in the frontcourt with an excellent rebounder in Swift. Still in the top half of the league in rpg...of course a large part of that is due to the 7.4 per game I get from the SG position.

But even if All 3 players involved in the deal are only good for scoring....Melo's 30ppg is outweighed by Jackson and Boykins' combined 38ppg.

10 rpg with B+ defense isn't all that to be excited about IMO.  Let's put it this way, if he wasn't scoring, he wouldn't be much of an asset.


Only if your prior PF (and I honestly don't remember who it was) couldn't score 8 ppg.

Here's what I'd be worried about.  Boykins and Jackson (Jackson specifically) aren't young, and I wouldn't expect to improve much more.  If their defense falls, I think that's when you get hurt in the future.  Even if Melo's defense falls (which I don't expect), he's still among the elite scorers in the league, and is worth the hit in defense.  and defense at SF is one of the positions I'm least worried about, PF may be the most important IMO.  That's why I'm not in love with Boykins. 

I can't disagree with that.

But basically, the one main reason I think I've improved is because that's what my record, and my quality wins over quality opponents has suggested so.

Hey, I have 64 games left to play. If I don't win 40 of those, I obviously won't be mentioned among the title contenders, and the trade for Melo might not have been all that beneficial (although if you had seen some of my other offers, you would understand that this was the ONLY offer even worth considering).

Obviously, we can't tell who the winner of the deal is until after next year's draft, when the pick has been made. If I end up getting a big steal with that pick, I will have obviously won the better of the trade.

Of course, if I continue having strong winning sims, and my record stays among the best in the league, I will consider that to be a win in the trade.

This starts to look like a battlefield of opinions here.

Teams-on-their-last-legs vs. Up-and-coming-teams
 :lol: :lol: :lol:






... and no, i'm not talking about old vs. young (only Kings would match that completely) but about the new breed of slowly creeping into the circle of contenders teams ...
 8)

And of course you'd be in that "teams that have never even approached" category...

;)

BTW, the raptors were in the "in there" category before.

And I certainly disagree that my team is on their last legs.  They're only on their last legs if I decide they are.  Especially since Trent looks like he may be starting soon.  Pettit's probably got another 7 years in him of 25+ scoring.

but back to the points that have been made:
I truly believe that sometimes lesser players make a team better. What exactly did the Raptors accomplish with Melo and his 30ppg?
A 49-33 record, 7th seed and 1st round exit. The year before they won 6 more games, were 3rd seed and got a 1st round exit.

So a change is hardly killing a successful team. Would Melo have been a success story when paired with a good big man? Who knows, the Mavs are currently reliving the same pain as the Raps last season, Melo + LeBron + Harris and a weak frontline does get them a 11-9 record. Pretty mediocre ...


So it seems that Boykins and Luke are a better fit for the team. And please don't anybody tell me the top teams don't play hard at the beginning of the season. Nets, Hornets are veteran teams playing together for years, the Kings will never play better than now (before all the breakdowns), yet none of this teams came even close to a W. Go figure ...
 :)



I have no idea if i can get close again but i know i never was before. I needed perfect games from everyone to even take 2 from the Nets in a series and realized 3 seasons ago my young gun approach won't work, at least with my young guns. And since then I try to aquire a star player ...

(ivan just can't accept that a team without a true (ssba) veteran star - TMac, Dirk, Yao, KG, Emeka to name some - can be successful  :bounce:)

Yeah, i've seen how succesfull a youth project without a true superstar really is in DJSL. No, you can't win without a superstar. Fuck the team work, it's not working.

team work can only take you so far, you NEED a superstar to do the extra step, get to the next level. That's the same everywhere, not so in the reg season but especially in playoff series.

But something i do not like at all is that in SSBA this superstar HAST to be one of the 33, 34, 35 year old veterans. (With the noble exception of Pettit) Dirk, TMac, Yao, Marion, JRich and a few more still rule the league. NOBODY else stepped up. 9+ years into SSBA and still no other SSBA rookie can be considered "franchise guy" in the same class as these veterans, ready to take his team to the finals ...

Maybe the weaker drafts are backfiring now, but then again in the early seasons it wasn't that bad. Maybe the way doing handmade drafts in DJSL was better, since over there quite a few young guys perform on high level compareable with the Old Bunch. Morrisson, Radnidge, Kent, Barkley, Washington and Pruitt, to name a few.


Hey, KG still wins every title there, too, but at least it does look like some new guys are ready to take over soon ...
 8)

first time I had a chance to sit down and look...Jacquez Holton with a triple-double in our win against the Magic.  Charles Phelps really complemented Dwayne Wade this sim to form a good scoring punch.  We are still a Bailey Tobey away from being a half decent team.

He is obssesed (whatever its spelled) with Earl, he has Boykins as PG in all sim leagues, its just that, dont take it personal hehehehehe :lol:

unfortunately thats true, and i agree.....i used to collect picks in some leagues, build around one superstar and it was never enough for any big achievement except grabbing PO.....DJSL is proff for that as well, Magic for example, have a huge number of Superstars and some warm benchers could easily be a major player on any team but Magic are every season amoung 1-3 top contenders just like in any other other league....actually im quite suprised they havent won already......but to continue-.......in one league i collected a group of in avg. 32 years of age and ive manage to grab 1 champhinship,1 loss in finals and 3 conference finals loss in next 5 years......the only exception despite being not was in XQNBL where i had Tiago Splitter whom became in 2 seasons best center and player of the league, 3 other brazlians, Dwayne Wade whom i got on FA cause my team had a lot of money and Carney and i dont remember whom else with few picks after first 2 seasons, but after 4th season, my team was like Bulls in real life, too much power, fiction and real like Wade,Souza and Splitter before league faded away but it would have been the greatest team ever in any sim league for sure.....when they came to destroy everything avg. age was 23.4......and that was only exception ive seen so far.....but well...