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League Information => Questions => Topic started by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 08:46:44 AM



Title: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 08:46:44 AM
I'm still wondering what happened to my offer for him? Since i'm litlle bit thin inside i could use him. I offered him a one year deal but he's still a free agent and now Raptors signed him. I would like to have him back if possible.


p.s. Is it possible for free agent not to accept any offer and just stays a free agent?


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: MagicGM on May 29, 2006, 08:49:33 AM
yes, that is possible. it doesn't mean that since they got an offer, they'd re-sign with you right away.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 08:51:35 AM
Not right away. But to not resign at all and stay a free agent!


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: MagicGM on May 29, 2006, 09:10:16 AM
yes that is possible. especially for a losing team. well, Nick collison signing says so. haha. just kidding ;)


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 09:16:34 AM
I haven't seen any free agent NOT take an offer during the FA period but wait to become free agent, especially when his former team wants to sign him back. That would be the worst a player could do, since he loses the bird years and won't be eligible to anything other than min/MLE/LLE contracts for years ...

So if he didn't sign during FA period he has most likely not gotten an offer. Even if you only offer a 1yr minimum deal to Brand (which would be the most stupid thing to do when you have 3+ bird years on him and risk losing him for even an LLE offer) he should have accepted.

So either you offered LLE or MLE to him which was used for someone else. Or your roster was full. Or his offer wasn't put in.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 09:19:43 AM
I belive i offered him a max deal over one year. Just like i did with Turkoglu, Murray and Posey.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: MagicGM on May 29, 2006, 09:21:27 AM
I belive i offered him a max deal over one year. Just like i did with Turkoglu, Murray and Posey.
well, that would be unthinkable then.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 09:28:33 AM
I thought i found a possible solution, but i didn't.

I assumed that you might have had all 15 roster spots full before the Dirk/Gasol trades. But that's not possible, looking at the transaction log there is no way you had more than 12 guys on your roster at any time.

So there's no possible (logical) reason he didn't sign.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: PacersGM on May 29, 2006, 09:29:15 AM
I belive i offered him a max deal over one year. Just like i did with Turkoglu, Murray and Posey.

maybe you should check your offers? If it is true that you offered him a max 1 year deal he should have signed in a hurry. That is way too much for that guy :lmao:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 09:30:06 AM
Yeah, beats me too. Or the program made a mistake. I don't know.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 29, 2006, 09:38:16 AM
Well talk to me about a trade then  :tup:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: NetsGM on May 29, 2006, 09:47:11 AM
The offer was submitted.  And the "max" offer was about 60k more than the min offer he took from the Raptors.  I have seen players turn down offers before, especially what's essentially a minimum offer.  And no, you can't have him back.  He never signed with you.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: PacersGM on May 29, 2006, 09:52:38 AM
didn´t the celtics trade brand for a second rounder?


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: MagicGM on May 29, 2006, 10:01:32 AM
wow, I wonder who retires as a King next year? do you guys want to make a guess?

ivan, max huh? hehe.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 29, 2006, 10:01:51 AM
Whew, I was worried there for a 2nd I would be losing him, whihc would totally suck since I got to the FA pool first and had my choice.

But again, Kings, we can work something out for him.

I'll take a draft pick, which you are likely just gonna get a fictional player anyway ;)


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 10:54:18 AM
Not that i care much, i was just being curious. It was a mistery to me.

And Raps, lol, you'll be very dissapointed. He's bum, i'll tell you that.

Oh and Celtics likes him soo much that he traded him for 2nd round pick.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 29, 2006, 11:02:53 AM
A bum signed for the minimum who plays A- defense ;)

A bum who someone felt the need to start an entire thread about  :tup:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 11:07:11 AM

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A bum signed for the minimum who plays A- defense ;)

There are free agents with A- defense that no one wants every year.

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A bum who someone felt the need to start an entire thread about  :tup:

Nah, as i just said, i was just being curious cause i haven't seen that before. FA rejects the offer (regardless of what kind a offer that was) and rather stays the free agent. It just doesn't make sense.



Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 29, 2006, 11:14:49 AM
Oh Kings, where would we be with out you?

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There are free agents with A- defense that no one wants every year.

There are alot this year!

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Nah, as i just said, i was just being curious cause i haven't seen that before. FA rejects the offer (regardless of what kind a offer that was) and rather stays the free agent. It just doesn't make sense.

So you don't really care either way? Funny, since I got a different sense when I read your first post...

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I'm still wondering what happened to my offer for him? Since i'm litlle bit thin inside i could use him. I offered him a one year deal but he's still a free agent and now Raptors signed him. I would like to have him back if possible.


 :lol2:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 11:59:06 AM
Ha, yeah, not that i wouldn't mind him, i could use him somehow. But with Booth, Dirk, Gasol and Collison i don't think he'd see any minutes anyway. Actually i don't even know why i wrote that. Cause i was just being curious that's all.

You'll see what i'm talking about once the season starts. And i won't be suprised if you trade him for a 2nd rounder as well. :)


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 02:19:34 PM
Sorry guys, check the season ending roster pages. Brand had 5 bird years, when I traded him on day 1 of last season (for FA pickup Parker Kidd) and still when the season finished.

There is NO way a 1yr max deal should have been anything less than 10.9 mio.



Unless the Kings cut him, which i find no evidence in the t-log for ...
:?:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 02:21:48 PM
Smells like a conspiracy!


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 02:26:33 PM
Ha, yeah, not that i wouldn't mind him, i could use him somehow. But with Booth, Dirk, Gasol and Collison i don't think he'd see any minutes anyway. Actually i don't even know why i wrote that. Cause i was just being curious that's all.

You'll see what i'm talking about once the season starts. And i won't be suprised if you trade him for a 2nd rounder as well. :)
Dirk is no PF/C, Booth is 500 years old,  and Gasol/Nick can break down any day. There is hardly a team in the league needing brand MORE than the Kings.

And I say it again, what a poor mistake giving Brand to this crappy little punk in the first place. I guess 27 other teams would have been glad to get him for free AND valued that. And NONE of these teams would NOT have resigned him ...
 :moon:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 02:53:46 PM
You just earned yourself a triple sweep.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: PacersGM on May 29, 2006, 04:35:29 PM
yea i thought the same when i asked if brand wasn´t traded and the bird years should have been more than 3. But i guess even ivan didn´t know he had bird year rights on brand  :bash:



Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 05:33:49 PM
yea i thought the same when i asked if brand wasn´t traded and the bird years should have been more than 3. But i guess even ivan didn´t know he had bird year rights on brand  :bash:


I know that Ivan could be so .... but if he entered "max" in the DB it shouldn't matter. After all, the new FA entry system was made specifically to take care of ignorants who still don't get the cap rules after 14 seasons here in SSBA ...
;-)


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: NetsGM on May 29, 2006, 06:03:26 PM
Yeah, he did have bird years.

That sucks, not sure why it wasn't entered correctly.

Oh well, at this point there's nothing that can be done.  Just like what happened with Shaq-gate, live moves on. 


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 06:38:34 PM
Well, the Kings don't need him and trev values him.
So let's close the case since there are just happy campers around ...
 :cheers:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 06:44:58 PM
Sweet words won't save you from tripled sweep. Decision has been made and it can't be changed.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 06:47:37 PM
But i guess even ivan didn´t know he had bird year rights on brand  :bash:



I might been wasting my time on alots of useless things, but checkin Quentin Brand's bird years is probably the last thing to do.  :lol:


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 06:47:58 PM
Sweet words won't save you from tripled sweep. Decision has been made and it can't be changed.

Mildly disappointed ...

I was assuming the phrase "to take care of ignorants who still don't get the cap rules after 14 seasons here in SSBA ..." - which was aimed at no other than the joke of a KingsGM - alone warrants a quadruple sweep.

But I guess you take the safe road nowadays ...


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 06:50:22 PM
Well, since you're good friend of mine, i can't sweep you all the way until the 2029 season. I'm a good person.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 29, 2006, 06:51:19 PM

I might been wasting my time on alots of useless things, but checkin Quentin Brand's bird years is probably the last thing to do. 
:lol:
:lmao: :lol2: :lmao: :lol2:

BODS, PLEASE, CAN WE PUT UP A PANTHEON OF SSBA QUOTES.
THIS WOULD BE MY FIRST NOMINATION IN THE CATEGORY "Good luck, I'm sure you find another league"


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: NetsGM on May 29, 2006, 06:55:51 PM
You guys are too much.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 29, 2006, 06:57:10 PM
I like the idea.

We could also name you a director of  the "true potential of 2nd rounders" department.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 30, 2006, 11:11:52 AM
Ha, yeah, not that i wouldn't mind him, i could use him somehow. But with Booth, Dirk, Gasol and Collison i don't think he'd see any minutes anyway. Actually i don't even know why i wrote that. Cause i was just being curious that's all.

You'll see what i'm talking about once the season starts. And i won't be suprised if you trade him for a 2nd rounder as well. :)
Your goign to play Dirk at PF?
Oh, happy days...  I tried that...  he could not play more then 30 mpg, due to foul trouble.
I think Dirk was the worst A defender in the history of SSBA.  But probably the best offensive player in SSBA history as well.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: SonicsGM on May 30, 2006, 09:33:15 PM
Your goign to play Dirk at PF?
Oh, happy days...  I tried that...  he could not play more then 30 mpg, due to foul trouble.
I think Dirk was the worst A defender in the history of SSBA.  But probably the best offensive player in SSBA history as well.

During my two Finals runs, Dirk was my PF and played a little at C.  He didn't do much at the SF position, because I had Dickau and Stojakovic.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 31, 2006, 02:01:39 PM
Your goign to play Dirk at PF?
Oh, happy days...  I tried that...  he could not play more then 30 mpg, due to foul trouble.
I think Dirk was the worst A defender in the history of SSBA.  But probably the best offensive player in SSBA history as well.

During my two Finals runs, Dirk was my PF and played a little at C.  He didn't do much at the SF position, because I had Dickau and Stojakovic.

I think in his old age, he started to shy away from contact.  When I played him at PF, he averaged about 30 mpg...  at center, about 26 mpg.


Title: Re: Quentin Brand
Post by: CelticsGM on May 31, 2006, 02:40:39 PM
All this, my friends, while the real Dirkster finally starts to tear the NBA apart as well (forget about the last night, the matchup with Duncan was his coming out into NBA stardom).
 :hail:

Not if anyone ever doubted the positive effects of SSBA onto real life ...
 :bounce: