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Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on March 29, 2006, 09:57:03 AM
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Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:02:57 AM
Bullshit

lost 14 net ratings, gained TWO.
lost on 5 potentials, improved on ONE.

this is a nightmare  :shock:


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:06:06 AM
Emeka: even
Dalembert: -1 outside, +1 handles
Darko: -1 reb, lost potential
Lo: lost handles (hah)
Drew: gained outside
Dial: even
Dunleavy: even
Battier: gained handles
Pettit: Even
Salmons: even
Booth: who cares
Lord: this was actually my biggest disappointment.  He gained one in handles, but kept his B defense.  I'd much rather have an A handles with a B+ or A- defense than an A+ handles with B defense.
Snow: The guy I had with the biggest jump.  Lost one outside, but gained one in handles and one in defense.  Which is good to offset...
McCracken: Lost one handles, kept everything else.  Bust.

Darko and McCracken were busts.  Some of my elder guys stayed pretty much the same.  Lord was a mixed bag, and Bailey was a nice surprise.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:06:30 AM
Quote from: CelticsGM
this is a nightmare  :shock:


Bah.

You know better than to get lost in the TC hype.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:10:11 AM
Decent TC for the Purple and Black.

Swift went up in rebounding, making him a likely 10, 12 and 2 starting C. couldn't ask for much more.

Garcia did really nothing, but kept the B potential, and kept his backup spot.

Gasol had a few minor changes, losing an inside scoring, an outside scoring and a defense, but that's not much to be worried about...B+/A-/B- will still provide 18 and 11 like last year.

Carmelo dropped a rebounding and a potential, but he's already a good defender, a great scorer and I don't really need his rebounding with my frontcourt and Childress.

JDN had a poor TC. I was actually hoping that one of these last few would be a good one for him so that would justify that contract I gave him. Guess not.

Chills gained an inside scoring, making him the clear cut starting SG.

Hunter dropped an inside scoring and an outisde scoring. Wow. Since the only reason he was starting was his scoring, look for him to ride the pine all year and not be resigned.

Max AGAIN maintained the A potential, and AGAIN improved, getting his outside shooting to A. Look for him to break the 20 point barrier this year.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:12:35 AM
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The 2014 Toronto Raptors: "A New Era Is Upon Us"


You realize we're just entering the 2013 season, right?


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MavsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:13:38 AM
Boykins +1 on inside and rebounding but -1 on D.
Caleb Anderson +1 on inside, outside +2 on D.
Armando Thompson +1 on outside, hand, D.
Devin Harris -1 on hand.
Jason Terry -1 on hand
Mikel Abdul-Wahad +1 on rebound -1 on outside and hand.
James Clardy +1 on D.
Luke Jackson -1 on outside.

Great TC for Caleb Anderson with a +4.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MavsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:15:40 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
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The 2014 Toronto Raptors: "A New Era Is Upon Us"


You realize we're just entering the 2013 season, right?

I thought we were in 2014 too, need to fix my sig. :oops:


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:16:17 AM
Poor cleveland.  After trading for Russell, he drops to a B defense.  Wasn't he an A- at one point?  

Meanwhile, Keogan improved two offensively.  A- A might be the best offensvie wing in the game.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:16:58 AM
Quote from: MavsGM
Quote from: NetsGM
Quote
The 2014 Toronto Raptors: "A New Era Is Upon Us"


You realize we're just entering the 2013 season, right?

I thought we were in 2014 too, need to fix my sig. :oops:


Haha, nope.

I just put up the 2014 draft, which is called the 2014 draft because it comes after the end of the 2013 season  :lol:


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:23:16 AM
Someone should have traded for Keogan when they had the chance.

Butler of the Nuggs in now an A+ outside shooter.

Barton O'Connell  :shock:


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:24:09 AM
Bah. Well maybe I'm calling this season a write-off and getting ready for next season :)


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: JazzGM-old on March 29, 2006, 10:38:39 AM
my biggest surprise was beardslee with +1 out and +1 handles...he has B def playing SF, Kaman improved his inside scoring which makes me very happy I picked him back up. Murray went +1 in defense which is nice because he scores very well off the bench. Shabinger was my disappointment going -1 in rebounding and -1 in defense. My rookie Walker went +1 in rebounding which may get him some minutes even though he doesn't do much else. Overall if i count that kelleher is being cut, I went -2 overall as a team, but I still feel that my key players are fine except possibly at PG


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: PacersGM on March 29, 2006, 10:43:00 AM
now it is done no more A inside guys here... :cry:

by the way sim 1 is today?


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: MavsGM on March 29, 2006, 10:54:04 AM
According to the calender yes.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: PacersGM on March 29, 2006, 10:55:49 AM
so where can i post my depth chart  :D


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on March 29, 2006, 11:09:25 AM
now a post in the dc forum.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: HawksGM on March 29, 2006, 11:44:18 AM
A few little things for me...rookies Curtis Davis and Sandy Watson did nothing, Watson got worse and Davis improved one offensively.  Charles Phelps improved in both outside and inside making him probably the best all-around scorer I've had yet.  Palacio got better outiside but lost another defense as well.  Hav lost an outside but that doens't really worry me.  Overall it's a neutral TC, but IMO Phelps improving justifys me trading up to get him last draft.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on March 29, 2006, 12:03:07 PM
This is the first time I have ever been happy with my teams TC, ever...  And the thing is they only gained +2 as a team...  Here's the breakdown:

Steven Schmaltz:  +1 Handles, +2 Defense, +1 Rebounding
Eddy Curry:  +1 Outside, -1 Handles, -1 Defense
Kenneth Rivera: -1 Handles, +2 Defense, +1 Rebounding
Chris Mihm:  -1 Defense
Broderick Baylor:  -1 Defense
Patrick Kent:  +1 Inside, -1 Defense
Antonio Turkoglu:  -1 Inside
Hunter Summitt:  +1 Outside, +1 Handles
Stephon Marbury:  -1 Defense
Vito Morrison: +1 Handles
Alvin Schenk:  -1 Outside, +1 Handles
Tory Shields:  -1 Inside, -1 Rebounding
Rodger Henson:  SAME


Schmaltz and Rivera are starting to make a pretty nice Frontcourt...  Hopefully the Pistons can stay out of the Lotto for a year...


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: SonicsGM on March 29, 2006, 01:13:21 PM
A mixed bag for the Sonics...but more bad than good.

First off, the good:

Michael Gragg - up one in handles, outside and defense (still has the A potential)
Kenneth Wheat - up one in handles and rebounding, but lost one in potential
Cole Sapp - up one in outside, handles and potential


The mixed
Harold Morey - up one in defense, down one in rebounding (still has the A potential)


The bad
Jason Collier - down one in defense
Earl Watson - down one in handles and rebounding
Nicklaus English - down one in defense and potential
Jake Tsakalidis - down one in defense and potential
SAR - down one in rebounding, although the potential went up one


I expect Michael Gragg to be a 20+ per game scorer now with that C+, A, A- rating spread.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on March 29, 2006, 01:52:30 PM
Can't belive.

I actually have a decent team.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: CavsGM on March 29, 2006, 03:50:17 PM
Isn't that something. 4 years of TC's and Keogan does nothing. Right after I trade him, boom, he becomes an offensive powerhouse. And Russell. But he still has his poor defense, and it's not like he wasn't a terrific scorer before. He's just more of that now...But it sucks that Russell went down one in defense, with no improvements. That trade is looking very bad now. Butttt, with that aside, it was actually very good TC for the Cavs...

Cunningham: Same
Adams: +1 in defense and rebounding. He is turning out to be a very solid center. If he continues to improve with his B potential he could turn into a star.
Strait: Down one in handles, but up one in defense and rebounding. Now at B inside, with B+/B+, Strait is looking like a great player that should still improve with his B potential.
Manning: Same. A bit of a disappointment.
Sweetney: +1 in inside and outside, but -1 in defense. But with his decent offense now and great rebounding, he is a nice backup.
Litwack: I move him to PF and see that he goes up to B- defense there, but he goes right back down to C+. And he went down 1 in inside too. Good I signed him to only a 1 year deal, he won't even play for me.
Russell: ^^^
Sylvester: Now this is just what I draft him for, to be my versatile guy off the bench. +1 outside and handles, +2 defense. Very nice.
Johnson: -1 in handles.
Varejao: -  1 in handles.
Deans: -1 outisde and rebounding, +1 defense
Deal: +1 handles
Barbosa: Down on in handles and rebounding. Disappointed.
Gomes: Up one in outside. It's good because that's what he needed improvement in.
Seymore: Same


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: CavsGM on March 29, 2006, 04:28:53 PM
Some notes from around the league...

- TMac is on the decline...
- Whatever happened to Nicklaus English? He's dropped like 4 ratings over the last few years.
- I thought this before but never said it. Barton O'Connell will eventually be the best PG in the league.
- Alphonse Butler is the real deal.
- Robert Swift has improved for like 7 straight years.
- Rex Mehta is the real deal.
- Maybe not so fast for O'Connell. Milner looks amazing, as does Gutierrez and Lord.
- Is Erick Dampier ever going to retire?
- David Jonas will be the best 6th man in the league(assuming he doesn't start).


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: SixersGM on March 29, 2006, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: CavsGM

- David Jonas will be the best 6th man in the league(assuming he doesn't start).


He's gonna start. :D

Damn! Same old crappy TC for the sixers. Bolinger stayed the same. Jonas improved his defense from c to C+ but dropped in his potential. Wells, improved on his handles. Fuqua dropped in his rebounding but his potential stayed the same. Tanner dropped in inside scoring. I might be looking to do some pingpong balls.


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: HawksGM on March 30, 2006, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: CavsGM
Some notes from around the league...

- TMac is on the decline...
- Whatever happened to Nicklaus English? He's dropped like 4 ratings over the last few years.
- I thought this before but never said it. Barton O'Connell will eventually be the best PG in the league.
- Alphonse Butler is the real deal.
- Robert Swift has improved for like 7 straight years.
- Rex Mehta is the real deal.
- Maybe not so fast for O'Connell. Milner looks amazing, as does Gutierrez and Lord.
- Is Erick Dampier ever going to retire?

- David Jonas will be the best 6th man in the league(assuming he doesn't start).


lol, his minutes weren't as high last year so I think his age might finally catch up to him, look for this to be his last season


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: PacersGM on March 30, 2006, 11:30:52 AM
i think the record is dikembe who retired at the age of 39 as an A defender...


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: GoldenStateGM on March 30, 2006, 11:48:53 AM
Well, not the greatest TC for the Warriors, but that was to be expected...

Jim Finley retunred to being a B rebounder, which may have gotten him his starting job abck.
Don Ruffin lost a handle...
Granville Aranda gained an outside and a rebounding, which is quite nice.
Dirk lost an inside scoring, but gained an outside scoring, a push there.
Jackson Finley lost a handle and an outside, which is not good at all...
Luol Deng lost a handle...  not too bad...
Dean Springs lost an outside and dropped in potential, that hurt for the future..
Devin Hinkle lost an inside...  just odd...
Hinrich gained a handle, and lost an outside... even on that front.

everyone else, little to no change...


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: Str8westcoasta on March 30, 2006, 05:20:33 PM
Barton O'Connell is a pimp!

Barton O'Connell PG 24 5'11'' 196 C A+ A+ B D+ B

Everyone else pretty much sucked, although Nick Abdur-Rahim came out of his 4 year slump!  :roll:


Title: Training Camp Discussion
Post by: BlazersGM on March 30, 2006, 05:21:16 PM
i was so busy with some job issues and many problems, i finally found some time to take a
look at my TC.

Overall it went good, however i didnt like the fact Hoffa is not anymore an A- scorer,
but Telf finally improved his handles after a long time and that recompesents the 1st thing.

Houbregs is a lost case, he-ll never improve that C+ defense.
And there was few pleasant suprises.

Lets take a look :

Centers :
Hoffa droped one IN, improved handles so he should still be able to post same numbers, and
his potential moved back to C, so hopefully next TC he gets back that A-.
Cunningham improved handles, finally improved at least something.
Tippett This young rookie had a fine TC, improved reb.

Power Forwards :
Tsakalidis droped to B- rebs, not happy at all.
Chris Bosh lost in, rest remained the same.

Small Forwards :
Jarvis Hayes remained the same, very happy with that, he will start probably.
Steven Buehler improved handles and defense, A- A- defensive monster now.
Rodrigues this 18 y.o rookie droped inside, remained A pot but it
seems moving him to SG wasnt a good idea for TC.
Myers, this 17 y.o rookie improved handles and defense, in 3-4 seasons he could be something
 looks very promising after improving +2 this TC being just 17 y.o with A pot.

Point Guards :
Sebastian Telfair improved handles after 4 TCs finally to A-, his reb went down to D but
thats really not important at all.
Damon Jones improved outside, droped rebs also.
Carlos Clement improved improved in,out,defense and still A potential, last TC he didnt
improve at all, this TC his was the biggest suprise.

Disappointments : None really
Biggest Suprise : Carlos clement +3 after terrible rookie TC last season.
Myers couldnt be added too, being 17 and improving +2 his first TC.
Very Happy : Buehler now A- A-, Telf A- handles FINALLY.

OVERALL : 13 ups in rating and 6 downs...but most important, Buehler and Telf finally like
i wanted them to be, too bad just Hoffa is B+ now, but we-ll survive :)