SSBA

Kings Send

Rafael Araujo
James Posey
Rasho Nesterovic

Kings Recive

Tim Duncan
Ricardo Tsakalidis

Heat Send

Rafael Araujo

Heat Recive

Shultz
Jackman
Brendan Haywood
Blazers 2015 firts rn pick

Blazers Recive

Rafael Araujo

Kings Send

Ricardo Tsakalidis
Todd Yost
Edmond Owen
Kings 2015 second round pick

Kings Recive

Andre Igoudala


Heat cuts Paul Hawkins, James Williams, Don Long



I AGREE!

Dear Lord, tell me everything is working now or otherwise i'll go completely insane!

Dear Lord i Agree and cut owen and yost.

i agree...i hope this works...without complications....

Don't know if it works because Araujo wasn't traded one for one.

he can be traded alone for as many players no ?

Hoffa hasn't been traded for like 2 seasons.

1) They (the acquired player being re-traded) are the only person being sent out by their team in the trade.

So i guess we finally got this madness done...my head exploded almost.

he is blazer for life now i hope.

I mean when Kings trade him to heat and then heat turn around and trade him to the Blazers.  The trade between Kings and Heat is ok but then Heat trade Araujo alone to Blazers for 3 players.

there is no rule that it have to be one for one and also it is a three way there is no 60 day rule for RA.

It should be posted like...

Trade 1
Team A sends

Team B sends

Trade 2
Team A sends

Team B sends

etc...

And there is a total of 7 sends or recieves in your post. So that doesn't make sense.

I see, I keep forgetting that 3 ways no 60-days.

yeah true, he insisted on posting, i do it that way but we-re all kinda out of our minds after 2h of complications and discussion.

Yeah, well don't be surprised when Bods isn't able to put it in. I can't understand the trade myself. How many actual trades are done here, 3 and a half? Lol. It needs to be clear...

ill make it clear

before the deal Heat cut
Heat cuts Paul Hawkins, James Williams, Don Long

TRADE 1 :
Kings Send

Rafael Araujo
James Posey
Rasho Nesterovic

Kings Recive

Tim Duncan
Ricardo Tsakalidis

TRADE 2 :
Heat Send

Rafael Araujo

Heat Recive

Shultz
Jackman
Brendan Haywood
Blazers 2015 firts rn pick

Blazers Recive

Rafael Araujo

TRADE 3 :
Kings Send

Ricardo Tsakalidis
Todd Yost
Edmond Owen
Kings 2015 second round pick

Kings Recive

Andre Igoudala



Its the same deal just explained  :lol:

So, is everything OK?

As long as you made sure all the salaries match.

The sallaries was just one of the issues, and it wasn't even the hardest part.

The main problem was all those other rules, 60 day, 24h rule etc.

Terrible. This has to be them most complicated deal in history of the league. Also, maybe the greatest one. :)

ive checked 2 times with trade checker, im gonna check it once more just in case  :lol:

they work

If i need to cut 1 player just cut Clement or Javier, or both if needed

Can't wait for the sim!

Just no injuries please!


CLIPS ARE GOING DOOOWN!!! :)

i have no idea what to expect from this sim, my team is stronger now but im having the toughest schedule this season playing a lot of top teams, but one thing is good, ill either come back to PO and hold the place last sim, or ill go down and get a great pick in this years draft to strenghten the team for next season.

damn im waiting for Celtics comments, where are u dude ???  :bounce:

Three mediocre teams switching starters. Should I get excited about this?

Winner: Heat, who get young talent for a retiring vet


Honestly, who among these teams is gonna make the playoffs now? Kings probably, but ìf you tell me Duncan scores more than Hoffa you are crazy. And Hoffa's scoring is all that kept them at least somewhat competitive. TD doesn't stop too many guys anymore ...

thats what i was waiting for, even being a small comment  :lol:

You want me to go on? Fine ...

Blazers? They gave s future superstar in Shultz, their only good defenders, not one, not two, no, all three in Shultz, Iggy and Haywood and on top of that a lotto first to get ... a high scoring big man at the latter parts of is career and a defense-only big man.
Will it make them better? Yes, now. Until the first extended injury break from Hoffa (who missed an average of 12 games in 6 of his last 7 seasons, not counting the missed playoff games). Will it get them to the playoffs? Probably. Will it lead them to a title? Never.


Well at least the Buehler experiment at PF is finally over and he can defend guys of his size now ...

not really, he went too to Canada  :lol:

Oh my goodness, it's even worse:

I completely missed the Blazers send ANOTHER future superstar away in Buehler (in addition to Bosh and a first, making this the worst trade in Blazers history)

Great, they now field a team with a top frontcourt and no, and I don't mean weak, I mean NO backcourt defender. Houbregs? Javier? Butler? Clement? No, that's not the current FA list, that's your backcourt now around Telf. Good luck ...

i went nuts with the brazilian sun and girls, butler is a fine defender, Houbregs is there to shoot, and those two tall idiots are there to block everything, Telf will do his usual role and hopefully ill go to lotto pick this year to pick something good so next season i can do some damage.

my worst trade was trading watson with you lol, i could have another young superstar if i didnt, and i dont see a problem with two superstars who still can play 5-6 season of good b-ball, next 2 seasons its time to strenghten this teams bench and grab a good player in this years draft and FA.

I can only pray for you Gasol hangs 'em up earlier and you don't have to carry the 22mio salary (more than half of your salary cap) in 5-6 years when he averages 14mpg, 4.3ppg and .378 shooting having young PFs run circles around him.
 :lol:

And Watson was a crappy move, but i didn't know you then. That won't happen again, from my side ...

It seems there would be no Gasol in Blazers uni

Ya know, Blazers, there was a time not so long ago (well, last offseason to be more specific) where you could have had Yao, but you refused to trade Shultz for him.

Now you traded Shultz for Hoffa.

WOW.

But to be honest I doubt Yao would have moved for
Shultz / Iggy / Jackman / Haywood / Blazers 2015 1st
as far as i can remember your price then. I think Buehler or Houbregs would have had to be part of the package and I doubt Tsakalidis/Bosh would have come back in return !

But tell me i'm wrong here ...

we should make a poll of the worst trades in ssba history  :lol:

I think I was ready to accept a package of Buehler, Haywood, Shultz.

you wanted Buehler, Haywood, Shultz and 2 or 3 1st rounders for Yao,
i would never give buehler and shultz together for Yao or Hoffa, neither i would give more then one 1st.

Blazers I agree.

Shultz/Finley/Jackman/Haywood/Blazers 2015 1st for Hoffa/Tsakalidis/Bosh is somewhat fair.
Yao for Buehler/Haywood/Shultz/even one high 1st is terrible overpaying for a guy without winners attitude.


And this is leading to a more important question: the difference and value of Yao and Hoffa. Neither has won anything but meaningless awards, neither has been to the SSBA finals even once and both were playing for pretty good teams with a some additional star power.

Overrated? Makes you wonder ...

...neither did Artis Gilmore, but then again, there is still time, Hoffa is just entering his best years i believe.

....also i dont get it why ppl think Buehler cant play PF, he has the same size and ability as Dennis Rodman and Gus “Honeycomb” Johnson had, they were both 6-6 as well.