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Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: HeatGM on February 15, 2006, 07:41:40 PM
Heat drops Paul Hawkins, Glen Pugh, James Williams, Don Long

First trade:

Heat sends:
Tim duncan

Blazers sends:
Haywood, Houbregs, Cunningham, Bosh

Second trade:
heat sends:
Q rich

Blazers sends:
Shultz,Jackman, blazers first rounder 2015


Heat then drops Houbregs,Cunningham, Bosh and Jackman


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: HeatGM on February 15, 2006, 07:49:09 PM
i agree to this trade:

i havent been using q rich lately and had a good run with it... i cannot win the championship title even with TD in my team...might as well get a young star player in shutlz....although haywood has a bad contract...but i need him this season to compete if i would reach the playoffs.... basically its TD, Q rich for shultz, haywood and first rounder... the blazers would be in a playoff run with TD and q in the lineup...goodluck to you blazers.... TD,houbers, buelher,Qrich,telfair would be scary....


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: HeatGM on February 15, 2006, 07:54:32 PM
forgot to tell you.... the blazers would resign
Houbregs,Cunningham, Bosh and Jackman after the 2nd trade


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: HeatGM on February 15, 2006, 08:03:08 PM
can Houbregs,Cunningham, Bosh and Jackman be resigned by the blazers after the trade?? if not then i would hold on to the four until they are allowed to be resigned by the blazers....

raptors is trying to steal
Chris Bosh
Russell Houbergs
Juan Cunningham

 :lol:


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: SpursGM-old on February 15, 2006, 08:11:35 PM
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If a player is cut as a result of a trade, no team involved in the trade (either team who traded the cut player, team who received the player, or any other parties involved in the trade who never controlled the player) can sign that player for a period of 24 hours after the trade has occurred.



Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 15, 2006, 08:27:00 PM
Quote from: HeatGM
can Houbregs,Cunningham, Bosh and Jackman be resigned by the blazers after the trade?? if not then i would hold on to the four until they are allowed to be resigned by the blazers....

raptors is trying to steal
Chris Bosh
Russell Houbergs
Juan Cunningham

 :lol:


I agree to the trade if the above condition is allowed (that he keeps the players until im allowed to re-sign them).

Too hard to let Shultz go, we wish you best of luck at sunny Florida, but hopefully now this team is ready for some bigger achievements.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on February 15, 2006, 08:37:44 PM
Bods, this is part of the 3 way deal, but Blazers and me are working on some issues right now.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on February 15, 2006, 08:51:12 PM
Quote from: KingsGM
Bods, this is part of the 3 way deal, but Blazers and me are working on some issues right now.
.

As BlazersGM said, we're uncertain about some things so we're waiting for your answer.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: HawksGM on February 15, 2006, 08:52:33 PM
Quote from: KingsGM
Quote from: KingsGM
Bods, this is part of the 3 way deal, but Blazers and me are working on some issues right now.
.

As BlazersGM said, we're uncertain about some things so we're waiting for your answer.


you made both these quotes :lol:


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on February 15, 2006, 08:54:44 PM
Yeah, i wanted to edit it, but forgot that there's only quote button.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 15, 2006, 09:05:38 PM
...and yes, this is a part of 3 way deal, so its on hold until uncertain issues are resolved.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: NetsGM on February 15, 2006, 10:18:26 PM
Alright guys, hate to say this, but this entire thing is a littany of errors.

First, Waivers:
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Waivers

After having cut a player, the cutting team is unable to sign him for 24 hours.  This is to give the rest of the league first chance to sign him.  If he hasn’t been signed for 24 hours since he was released, the team that released him may sign him once again.

If a player is cut as a result of a trade, no team involved in the trade (either team who traded the cut player, team who received the player, or any other parties involved in the trade who never controlled the player) can sign that player for a period of 24 hours after the trade has occurred.


What that means is, regardless of when the player is cut, the team who traded him cannot sign that player until after 24 hours has passed.  That specific application of waivers is if it the player is cut immediately following the trade.  If you "wait" to cut a player so that the old team can immediately sign it, they are still subject to a 24 hour waiver rule.

The entire rule was put into place to prevent this very thing, so that somebody can't "trade" a player, then the two teams coordinate it to get the guys back on the former team.

Second, a trade posted has to be posted as a 3 team trade from the get-go.  A second 2-team trade cannot be added later.'

This entire trade is being cancelled.  Come back when everything is fixed.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: PacersGM on February 16, 2006, 04:51:55 AM
Quote from: KingsGM
Quote from: KingsGM
Bods, this is part of the 3 way deal, but Blazers and me are working on some issues right now.
.

As BlazersGM said, we're uncertain about some things so we're waiting for your answer.


man this trade is so horrible constructed i can´t wait to see the third part.
somehting like kings trade t-mac,biiby and RA for timmy and want to resign them back after blazers cut them  :lol:
please read the rules and if you don´t understand them ask Tom or myself like you used to do.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: CelticsGM on February 16, 2006, 07:42:45 AM
Quote from: PacersGM

please read the rules and if you don´t understand them ask Tom or myself like you used to do.

Let's make it official title here:
SSBA Infrastructure Consultants

Just the salary has to be discussed: An extra 2mio cap space hardly matters for us, an extra pick #30 and #31 is more burden than aid, but hey, getting an extra FA day 0 exclusively might do it ...


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: PacersGM on February 16, 2006, 08:05:59 AM
yea there should be some award for all the explaining we did to some guys here who still don´t get it  :wink:


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on February 16, 2006, 08:09:24 AM
Nah, it has nothing to do with me. It's their mess.

I didn't even know it would be a 3 way deal.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: MagicGM on February 16, 2006, 08:27:36 AM
Jerold told me it would be 4 way with the Magic in it :)













 :roll:


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: PacersGM on February 16, 2006, 08:57:05 AM
make it 5 please let me in  :lol:


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on February 16, 2006, 09:16:55 AM
Timmy is only interested in California.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 10:48:19 AM
what a confussion


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: CelticsGM on February 16, 2006, 01:50:44 PM
let me in, let me in, let me in ...

can't we try for a deal with double digit participants? Unheard of in the sim universe. We might get an entry in the Guiness Book of World Records ...
 :o


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 02:15:59 PM
i didnt understand just one part, can he or can he not keep the players for 24h and then give them back to me. If he can do that, then i-ll announce the 3 way deal.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 02:16:47 PM
...and same thing goes with the 3rd party involved (that i keep a player for 24h)


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: SpursGM-old on February 16, 2006, 03:18:24 PM
No, the players have to be available for anyone to sign for 24 hours before you can resign them.

Or in other words you can't resign them until 24 hours after the drop is posted.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 03:23:09 PM
are we allowed to agree on time when to drop and re-sign them  :lol:


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: MavsGM on February 16, 2006, 03:34:30 PM
Make it a eight way trade.  I'm willing to give up my second round pick for free.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on February 16, 2006, 03:51:51 PM
Quote from: BlazersGM
are we allowed to agree on time when to drop and re-sign them  :lol:


If you do the trade how it is, I'm going to be signing Houbergs, Cunningham and Bosh.

You can't sign them until 24 hours AFTER they become free agents.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: NetsGM on February 16, 2006, 04:13:29 PM
Quote
are we allowed to agree on time when to drop and re-sign them

 
Are you missing the point of waivers?


No, you can't.

You have to wait 24 hours until after the player is cut to re-sign him.  If you want to risk them not being picked up within 24 hours, go for it.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on February 16, 2006, 04:22:24 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
Quote
are we allowed to agree on time when to drop and re-sign them

 
Are you missing the point of waivers?


No, you can't.

You have to wait 24 hours until after the player is cut to re-sign him.  If you want to risk them not being picked up within 24 hours, go for it.


They already were picked up.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: PacersGM on February 16, 2006, 04:33:01 PM
no they are not as i think bods stopped the trade.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on February 16, 2006, 04:34:54 PM
Quote from: PacersGM
no they are not as i think bods stopped the trade.


If the trade does end up going through, and I don't get the 3 guys I picked up, that would be bullshit.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: HawksGM on February 16, 2006, 04:43:11 PM
Quote from: RaptorsGM

If the trade does end up going through, and I don't get the 3 guys I picked up, that would be bullshit.


if the trade goes through you will definitely get them, but bods already said he stopped it


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on February 16, 2006, 04:51:22 PM
yeah, for sure. as it should be stopped.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: CelticsGM on February 16, 2006, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: RaptorsGM

They already were picked up.

lol

right now they were NOT cut as the trade has been stopped. So I don't see how they can be picked up now.

And posting a signing before a guy is really cut i'm not too high on ... I would immediately have to post 256 signings (just in case one of these guys gets cut anytime) and I really don't have time for that ...
 :roll:


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: BlazersGM
Quote from: HeatGM
can Houbregs,Cunningham, Bosh and Jackman be resigned by the blazers after the trade?? if not then i would hold on to the four until they are allowed to be resigned by the
 :lol:


I agree to the trade if the above condition is allowed (that he keeps the players until im allowed to re-sign them).

.



Raptors its not bullshit, you cant get those guys anyway -cause i agreed on the trade ONLY IF Heat can keep them and give them back to me, READ first what i wrote.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 05:14:14 PM
in other words, i didnt agree on a trade -cause above conditions are not allowed ! got it ??? :lol:


...and Bods, what i ment was he keeps the players, doesnt cut them, and we agree secretly that for example at 12:24 EST 1-2 days later he drops them, i pick them up immediately.


but this is too complicated, so we-ll either have to re-work it or its off.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 05:19:10 PM
and well i guess trade is off, i was looking at the rosters to see if there-s any other chance to rework this and i didnt come up with a solution, so for now this trade is off unless Heat and Kings can come up with some 3 way solution.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: SpursGM-old on February 16, 2006, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: BlazersGM
...and Bods, what i ment was he keeps the players, doesnt cut them, and we agree secretly that for example at 12:24 EST 1-2 days later he drops them, i pick them up immediately.



No the rule is very clear.  If a player is cut (today, tomorrow, 4 days from now) as a result of a trade that player cannot be resigned by any team involved in the trade for 24 hours from the time the cut is posted.

Also those players cannot be traded back to one of their prior teams until 60 days have passed.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 05:21:20 PM
thanks, those 60 days was the thing i didnt know, so as ive mentioned before i dont agree to the trade -cause condition cant be met.
Maybe i wasnt too clear with my english but i believe most of you got it, except Raps  8)


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: NetsGM on February 16, 2006, 05:30:58 PM
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...and Bods, what i ment was he keeps the players, doesnt cut them, and we agree secretly that for example at 12:24 EST 1-2 days later he drops them, i pick them up immediately.


Yes, that's the entire point of the rule is to prevent that.


Title: HEAT/BLAZERS blockbuster trade
Post by: BlazersGM on February 16, 2006, 05:33:10 PM
Thanks, so the deal is off then.