Title: Training Camp Post by: GoldenStateGM on January 27, 2006, 10:32:23 PM Almost did not realize it is tonight.
Warriors are not looking for much this year, except at one position. At center, this TC will decide my starter. Rubini has been improving at a much faster rate then Finley. Whoever is highest in defense and rebounding will get the start. At pf, would liek to see some improvement from Aranda. That is all I hope for (although if Ruffin got better, I would not complain :) ) At SF, all my hopes go into Dirk staying the same. At SG, some offensive improvement from Deng and Springs would be great. Would also really like to see Barbosa's defense improve. At PG, hope Hinrich just stays where he is. And that Holt can improve his outside and his defense. Title: Training Camp Post by: HawksGM on January 27, 2006, 10:36:21 PM I'll take what I can get improvement wise, Charles Phelps, Rodya and my 2nd round picks Ed Mortimer and Denis Oswald are the guys I would really like to see improvement from. Hav would be nice if he could improve defense and the same with Palacio. From Mercer, Damp and Tractor I just want them to stay the same.
Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 27, 2006, 11:01:37 PM I just hope Solomon becomes the wisdom-full King Solomon :D
Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 27, 2006, 11:37:09 PM PreTC (http://ssbafiles.phillyarena.net/files/2012/PreTC)
PostTC (http://ssbafiles.phillyarena.net/files/2012/PostTC/) Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 27, 2006, 11:40:13 PM FBB draft preview will be up tomorrow when the season officially begins.
Title: Training Camp Post by: MavsGM on January 27, 2006, 11:45:36 PM John Tyler is the next BIG thing. :shock: :shock: :shock:
Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 27, 2006, 11:46:40 PM holy crap tyler is bull :D sean rupp, baby.. sean rupp :D hehe
Title: Training Camp Post by: MavsGM on January 27, 2006, 11:48:41 PM Rupp? Is that dude Twan tries to make him Shaq?
Title: Training Camp Post by: MavsGM on January 27, 2006, 11:49:30 PM My team stayed the same.
Title: Training Camp Post by: BullsGM-old on January 27, 2006, 11:49:43 PM I'm pretty happy with this TC..
Richard Milner went up 2 points (now A-, A, C+) while maintaining his A potential Kundla improved his handles (now A-, B-, A-) Marion went down in handles but improved in an area I needed him up. He's now B, B, B+ Amare improved his handles to C- Dorell Wright has become a very interesting prospect now. His Ratings are B, C+, D+, C+, C+ with B potential. He's one good TC away from being a great all around player. Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 27, 2006, 11:52:24 PM I had disappointments.. Troy Murphy's poor TC has lead him to be cut.
Ernest Profit's improvement on defense will make some noise of the duration of the season:D Dwight had a nice TC, improved on rebounding. David Hollister also improve on his rebound, he'll play some minutes for me. Justin Brown was a dissapointment. But his improvement at some aspects will probably earn him some PT. Agrobast and Mangrum are likely to play my backcourt. As Marquis defense at SG also took aan improvement. Solomon is a disappointment. Brice had an big improvement his D potential hurts though. Arroyo is a disappointment. As for Roseau, its good to have him back on my team :D Title: Training Camp Post by: GoldenStateGM on January 28, 2006, 12:24:00 AM Very odd TC for the Warriors...
Both my centers dropped in rebounding... the one thing I really could not afford for them to lose... grrrr Nowitzki dropped an outside, but that really is not a big deal. Deng is now a C+ rebounder... odd increase, but I will take rebounding from wherever I can :) Dean Springs gained an outside and kept the B potential. he could turn out to be a good player. Hinrich dropped a handle. And Holt is now a better ball handler then Hinrich, since his handle increased. But the most frustrating TC player I have ever had, had a good, and yet odd, camp. Andre Iguodala went from a C+ in to a B- in, which is very nice. And then his handle jumped from a B to an A-. Why, oh why, will his defense not go up!!!! He is now the ultimate back-up, good at everything , great at nothing. Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 28, 2006, 12:36:44 AM Quote from: MavsGM Rupp? Is that dude Twan tries to make him Shaq? yes :D haha Giddens was Jordan :D Title: Training Camp Post by: GrizzliesGM on January 28, 2006, 01:40:04 AM Wow. Jason Richardson is a star again. Why did I trade him?
Title: Training Camp Post by: PacersGM on January 28, 2006, 04:37:47 AM that is my team another solid TC...
but artest is now a monster +1 in and outside should be now 1 of the best allaround players rocky +1 handles great -1 outside and pot (still B) nate and fish stayed the same marion +1 handles i really need that :wink: JO +1 reb boozer +1 handles i should have now the best passing starting 5 -1 reb :? austin +1 def the rest of my backups dropped but this are backups :D Title: Training Camp Post by: ClippersGM-old on January 28, 2006, 07:30:48 AM Damnit... I don't even feel like comparing preTC and postTC... it just looks bad!
But I like to point out a few things that I did not expect to happen. And those may change my plan a lot. I was about to start Perry, Gordon, Brand at 1, 2, 3. With Maggette's D potential I expected him to drop in offense. So I was gonna use him as a bigtime backup. But he stays where he was... AND Perry loses handling! :evil: Handling.... of all things, that is why he came here. So do I go back to Gordon, Maggette, Brand?? I don't know yet. Coach will have to think this through for a while. At first I thought my free agency sucked big time. Now that I got Hunter, Marshall, Rush and Harrington. I think I did ok, and now have a better bench than last year. Also Prince is better than Holston (see: clips-raps trade - I thought Prince would drop with his D pot). So that also give me a better bench. And the Childress for Perry swap... oh well... Childress was a backup that I wasnt really all that hyped about. Now Perry could be that same backup at another position (where I need it more)... or he may still perform well as a starter. Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 28, 2006, 08:24:36 AM for the 5,325th time, don't overreact based on tc. all a "drop" could mean is the player went down from an 81 to a 79.
Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 28, 2006, 08:46:13 AM Top 10 TC's (not weighted):
Jason Richardson (+5) Jamaal Tinsley (+4) Vito Ramsay (+3) Barton O'Connell(+3) Andre Iguodala(+3) Joseph Gomes(+3) Rex Mehta(+3) Lincoln Lord(+3) Emmanuel Griffin(+3) Ricky Fisher(+3) Also with +3: Edward Priddy Melvin Shubert Brian Wright Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 28, 2006, 08:49:58 AM As for my TC:
Lincoln Lord had a huge TC, +3 (+1 in inside, +2 defense). He may now be the starter. Okafor gained 1 in handles. Whoopty doo. Dunleavy gained one in handles, as did Darko. Pretty uneventful. Battier, Dial, Lo, Pettit stayed the same. Gooden lost one inside. Salmons lost one rebounding. Quincy Peters lost one in inside, Alberton Cone lost one in inside as well (and was subsequently cut). Earl Boykins lost 2 (defense and handles). Aaron Booth lost 2 (outside and defense). Samuel Dalembert lost 4 (inside, handles, defense, rebounding. The handles is inconsequential. And the defense is only lost at PF, when I switch him back to C he's still an A def. Losing one in inside and one in defense isn't good, but it's not the end of the world either. Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 28, 2006, 09:02:29 AM I guess its safe to say that the Magic can sweep the Nets-Magic series for the whole season :D
Title: Training Camp Post by: HawksGM on January 28, 2006, 09:06:43 AM well for the Hawks this TC was fairly uneventful. Mason Mercer drops 1 in defense but I don't expect that to hurt anything. Sherbert did improve by 3 which is a good thing, but he is still a few tc's away from hitting the floor. Charles Phelps let me down and only improved 1 in handles which is forcing me to play Mason at the 2 which is what Celtics wanted to see :wink: , but I'll be optimistic and say it will work out.
Title: Training Camp Post by: KingsGM-old on January 28, 2006, 09:29:35 AM Disguasting defense, just terrible! Something that i was really expecting.
But even with that i could be satisfied. Forston stayed the same and Tinsley could turn into my new starting PG which means that Bibby once again could be on his way out. Mcgrady stayed pretty much the same, glad that i didn't trade him for picks and expirings and i can only be happy that Camby didn't retire. Droped to A- at defense but still a good rebounder. Considering the age of my team, i'm pretty happy with my TC. If i could improve on defense via trades this team should be ready to be a contender again. Title: Training Camp Post by: CelticsGM on January 28, 2006, 10:12:34 AM Important TC for the underachieving Celtics, where I was trying to milk some more improvements out of the young guns with pre-TC position changes. Now how did it work out:
Starters (i did NOT change positions): C Thomas lost some handling and inside, but stayed A- in reb and def, which is all i need from him. PF Stromile did keep A- scoring and def, dropped one in reb. That's ok, he'll be my main focus on offense. SF Lenard improved defense (yeah !) and stayed pat otherwise. Perfect. SG Manu was the big loser in TC dropping all offense, handling and defense. Lets see if these were minor drops or if his time starting is a thing of the past PG Chauncey gained defense, lost nothing. Perfect again, he'll keep his job for now 6th man Redd got better on outside, kept the rest, which might make him a starter at SG now. Again, more than i expected from a 31yr old ... Backups (where i changed pos): PF Booth (to C) won handling, didn't lose def and reb. Good. SG Tower (to SF) won on outside, handles and rebounds, but defense might have dropped (i won't know before moving him back to SG). Not bad. SF Strong (stayed SF) won rebounding, lost nothing. Good, but some + on defense would have been nice (maybe he gained it at PF?) SG Schabinger (to PG!) Gained two on outside (A- now) and kept the rest including A- def. Redd and Manu, watch out ... PG Reed (to SG) improved to A+ handles, only lost reb. Lets see where his def now stands at PG (didn't change at SG), but he'll be more than an adequate PG backup now. PG Schenk (to SG) def got better, rest stayed. Won't play much anyway. Also: C Blount lost some inside but def & reb stayed the same, which is all i want. Overall i'd say I gained some ratings where i needed them making this a very successful TC for a change. Only Ginobili got really worse. But if that had something to do with changing the position is hard to say since we'll never know what would have been otherwise ... 8) Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 28, 2006, 10:16:29 AM Quote from: KingsGM Considering the age of my team, i'm pretty happy with my TC. If i could improve on defense via trades this team should be ready to be a contender again. don't. I have your pick :D Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 28, 2006, 10:20:10 AM Quote from: NetsGM Top 10 TC's (not weighted): Jason Richardson (+5) Jamaal Tinsley (+4) Vito Ramsay (+3) Barton O'Connell(+3) Andre Iguodala(+3) Joseph Gomes(+3) Rex Mehta(+3) Lincoln Lord(+3) Emmanuel Griffin(+3) Ricky Fisher(+3) Also with +3: Edward Priddy Melvin Shubert Brian Wright I think Brice improved 3 too. His natural position is SG:D his outside, handling and defense went up :D Title: Training Camp Post by: KingsGM-old on January 28, 2006, 10:24:05 AM Quote from: MagicGM Quote from: KingsGM Considering the age of my team, i'm pretty happy with my TC. If i could improve on defense via trades this team should be ready to be a contender again. don't. I have your pick :D Trade it for nothing. You don't need that garbage. :wink: Title: Training Camp Post by: MagicGM on January 28, 2006, 10:26:02 AM Quote from: KingsGM Quote from: MagicGM Quote from: KingsGM Considering the age of my team, i'm pretty happy with my TC. If i could improve on defense via trades this team should be ready to be a contender again. don't. I have your pick :D Trade it for nothing. You don't need that garbage. :wink: garbage? what garbage? :D Title: Training Camp Post by: KingsGM-old on January 28, 2006, 10:59:30 AM My pick.
Just ask Raps. Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 28, 2006, 11:22:41 AM Just an FYI guys.
http://ssbafiles.phillyarena.net It has some of the previous years files. re-signings lists, past fbcb draft details, end of year rosters (to compare TC's), stuff like that. You can browse either by Year (i.e. 2011, 2012, 2013) or by event (i.e. drafts, resignings, tc's, end year rosters). There will be a link to it on the main ssba page. Title: Training Camp Post by: RaptorsGM on January 28, 2006, 11:54:56 AM Well, RaptorsGM doesn not know what to think about his TC. Let's get right into it, shall we?
C Robert Swift: Shows no change whatsoever, and loses 1 potential. Didn't really need that. Swift has a negative TC. PF Pau Gasol: Shows no change whatsoever, and on the other hand, I really did need that. Gasol has a positive TC. PF Leocadio Garcia: Improves his handling by 1, whoo hoo but also loses a rebounding, which is his most important category. It's beyond me to understand how a 23 year old with B potential can be having a negative TC. PF Robin Walker: Does the exact opposite of Garcia, in that he loses a handle and gains as rebounding. He also keeps his B potential, so I'd say overall a positive TC for Walker. SF Carmelo Anthony: Improves his outside shooting by 1, his rebounding by 1, and goes down to C potential. However, whenever you had a 28 and 7 player improving, this is very much a positive TC for Melo. SF Josh Childress: Shows no change whatsoever, so this is a positive TC. SF Roberto Dickau: Improves the handles by 1, but also loses 1 defense. Also goes down to C potential. Negative TC for Dickau. SF Jamal Del Negro: Stays the same, and could still really help out a team. But not mine. Positive TC for him. SG Micah Hunter: Goes up 1 in inside shooting, down 1 in outside shooting. He may require a chance to play with those excellent offensive stats. Positive TC. PG Max Guiterrez: Max goes up 2 in defense, making him one of the A-/A-/A- point guards, yet maintains his A potential. THis is a fantastic TC from Max. PG Trenton Dench: Trenton loses a handle and a potential. Poor TC, but happy he maintained his A+ defense. PG Alvin Schenk: Perhaps Schenk could be the best LLE signing there was. Has the potential to be a 14 and 7 starter. Damn I wish we could trade LLE and MLE players. Schenk goes up 1 in outside and 1 in defense. PG Stefan Holston: Goes up 1 in rebounding. Who cares. haha. Positive. Title: Training Camp Post by: RaptorsGM on January 28, 2006, 11:59:20 AM And looking at some of the players involved in recent trades...
For the magic...Jefferson appears to stay the same, as do Arbogast and Brown. Good trade for me. For the hornets...Yao stays the same, as does Sanders. For the Clippers...Perry drops a handle and a potential. Ouch. Title: Training Camp Post by: CavsGM on January 28, 2006, 12:21:24 PM +5 for Richardson?!? I did not see that coming, now that is a terrible trade that I made. As for my TC, it wasn't anything special. Gomes went up in outside, handles and defense, so he is looking very good. He will probably start for me. Other then that, nothing major happened. A few drops and a few jumps here and there, but that's about it.
Title: Training Camp Post by: JazzGM-old on January 28, 2006, 12:34:28 PM Kirilenko is now an A- inside scorer, Moiso (to A- defense) and Murray (B inside) improve my depth, Shabinger is back to A- Handles and Hughes improves his inside game but evens out with a -1 from outside. Kaman stayed the same, Beardslee went down, Meyers went down, Jameer improved his handles to a B, Jones went to an A- handles. I was upset because i really felt my success this season was geared on Kaman at least improving in one area, but I did not expect Kirilenko improving again which I am really happy for. If anything I feel that my starters and their backups complement each others talents fairly well and I am a beter team than last year where I was a 7th seed, depends how that rates with the other powerhouses in the league.
Title: Training Camp Post by: BlazersGM on January 28, 2006, 01:38:30 PM Had a great TC, rookies sucked +/- but the others did good.
Especially happy with Haywood improving rebs and handling, Finley his shooting, Buehler now a A- rebounder, Houbregs definitely will never be a D man but he can score a lot, rookie Clement improved defense but looks like a good guy for the future. ...and well Telf stayed the same, Schultz droped out but gained inside. Title: Training Camp Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on January 28, 2006, 03:48:30 PM 1 word for my team, 2 options... "Ouch" or "Lottery"... I guess both will apply...
Title: Training Camp Post by: CelticsGM on January 28, 2006, 04:44:19 PM Quote from: PistonsGM 1 word for my team, 2 options... "Ouch" or "Lottery"... I guess both will apply... I really feel sorry for you. I've never seen something like this before. None of your rotation players (not starters, the whole 12 man active roster) has gained a single rating except for Antonio Turkoglu on inside. That's simply unbelievable ... That same 12 guys lost a total of 7 ratings on defense, 4 on offense and 3 on boards. That is not fair, no GM should endure such a TC. As you said, OUCH ... :cry: Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 28, 2006, 04:55:12 PM that's a very nice increase for kirilenko. Besides now being a top notch defender, he's a very tough offensive matchup, and a capable rebounder.
really wish you had decided to blow it up a few years ago (in your championship years). He'd be a great SF for me :lol: And Jason Richardson is just insane. improving 5 slots at 29 years old. And that really sucks for the pistons. Title: Training Camp Post by: NetsGM on January 28, 2006, 05:01:18 PM huge TC for Berkowitz as well. +1 in def and reb. He's gonna be a monster.
Livingston now an A+ ballhandler. Title: Training Camp Post by: JazzGM-old on January 28, 2006, 06:09:26 PM If you look at Kirilenko's awards and honors, he's never been the best scorer, the best rebounder, the best stealer, the best blocker, or player of the week/month heck he doesn't get much recognition from the program overall. But he does have 2 rings and stays pretty consistent year after year, and i wouldn't wnat to have to play against him. I've been waiting and waiting for him to put up double doubles/ triple/doubles on a more frequent basis but it hasn't materialized yet. I was hoping when the shaq's and tim duncan's and KG's fall off the map a little that the 2nd wave of superstars with kirilenko, lebron, etc would play in my favor but those guys are still doing their things and AK47 has just been getting older. Hopefully I'll see this turn around this season, but time and injuries will tell.
Title: Training Camp Post by: BucksGM on January 28, 2006, 09:03:49 PM No big surprises for my team, which if fine.
Mehta's up to B/B+/A- which is nice. Ferry down to C/C in defense and rebounding, which is not nice. Mark Bird had a good enough TC to make him a worthwhile addition. Title: Training Camp Post by: CavsGM on January 28, 2006, 09:13:23 PM Wow. Wasn't Ferry B+ defense at one point?
Title: Training Camp Post by: ClippersGM-old on January 28, 2006, 09:58:43 PM Clippers dropped overall, but not something to worry about too much. It is not a huge drop.
What we gained is pretty much meaningless: Chandler: +1 handling Maggette: +1 rebounding Bee: +1 inside Luckett: +1 handling |