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I know I just said thursday on all the PM's sent out, but I'm pushing it back to Friday.  Partly because I got these out 2 days late, but mostly because I don't feel like simming on the holiday.

Like always, either accept or decline offers, no modifications (that comes during FA).

If you didn't get an offer, or your offer was for another team, or for last years players (hey, stuff happens), pm me.

Good. Camby won't retire.

Hehe, Marbury is a complete idiot, he's asking $118 millions over 5 years.. :lol:

No contract offers from Mike or Tayshaun. Now I gotta go through this extra bit of stress. Great.

hahahahahahahahahha, he wants to pass 1 billion mark and play like Oscar Schmidt until he's 49  :D

To skip to my topic, Mercer realized he's a complete idiot and was begging the managment for 11x less money but we kicked him out trough toilet door of course.....and Sapp imagined he is a superstar asking 46 mil for 5 years, being an IR loser that's a pretty offensive wish, so we sent him to "the butcher"  :lol:

Says who? He can retire afterward. I'm pretty sure that it has happened before...

I was offered a contract that I accepted but he retired before I signed him.

hehehe  :lol:

Dean Drew has hit the market

And you can only offer 4.5 starting base....fucking 2nd rounders salaries, eh?

Yeah, that really sucks. He'll get some big offers.

well, he HAD to hit the market with no 3 bird years.

but i disagree. GREAT, now you can offer 4.5mio starting for this 2nd rounder, something you couldn't do before. On the other side, that might not be enough to get him back to the Windy City ...
 :?

he will get some offers for sure ...
anyone know who will have capspace this year?

me  :D

He didn't have to hit the market at all. He could have offered a contract.

Less than 3 years bird right player(s) will only offer you a contract if you're under the cap.

I got an offer from Heabbette :?:  :roll: .  I assume that is Jeannette.

Oh I didn't know that.

... which the Bulls are in the offseason (or better said could be, depending on the other extensions). So as of now it seems Drew COULD have made an offer - unless you have to be under the cap NOW for that to happen.

So I guess we are all right *lol*

You have to be under the cap now.

You didn't know that? Kings, how did you figure out Raptors' password?

Come on, how are you supposed to re-sign someone without having bird rights? You must have noticed the fact that every minimum-signed player, 2nd rounder, MLE guy or LLE guy that you've eved had has never asked for a contract...LOL

Haha, how true ...
 :lol:

Haha, no, that actually never crossed my mind.

So....

who wants to compile all of these results?  ;)

I do! I do!

You could start by making your decisions ;)


Waiting on the following teams:
Celtics
Heat
Magic
Wizards
Bulls
Raptors
Nuggets
Sonics

Haha, I'm still pondering about it.

You're holding us back. :x  :bash:

Well, yes, me, the 7 others who haven't got theirs in yet, and the fact tha B ods said he didn't feel like simming on the holiday.

I didn't know players with less than 3 years bird rights could only offer you a contract if you're under tha cap.  

All I know is I'm losing a 20/5/5 guy and it really sucks.  Oh well, you win some you lose some.  I should have pushed harder to trade him during the season

.....

There was a reason for the whole 2nd rounders 2 year contract argument.

What?  

Yeah it's not like I just found out I lost Drew, I knew going in to the season he probably wouldn't resign.  I tried to trade him (probably not as hard as I should have though) but it's hard trading a player of his calibre given his situation.

You can now offer him a 6 year deal starting at 4.5 million.

Before you could just offer him the one year MLE.

Yeah I know.  I don't know where Cavs got that I didn't know that.  In my first post, I was just saying that it sucks to lose Drew (most likely goin to happen), thats it.

Believe me, i doubt you would have been able to deal him during the season, and got equal value in return.

Like it happended with Mark Bird and others in the past, EVERYONE else knows he'll lose him too. And it's not like he's SO good and could have carried a lesser team to the title (like for example VC might have been able to). Nice numbers on offense but that's about his strength ...

It's not most likely. It's 100% likely. Players cannot re-sign with you in this period if you do not have their bird rights. That's where the whole argument about the contracts of 2nd rounders came from. Before, you could not re-sign then in the re-signing period, and you could only re-sign them in free agency with 120%(close to nothing, like 600K), the LLE, or the MLE. Some people wanted to give 2nd rounders a 3rd year on their contracts(giving bird rights), but that didn't happen because it would completely kill the value of late first rounders. So Bods made the 2nd year option of 3.75 mil so now you can offer deal up to 6 years and 10% increases with a starting salary of 4.5 mil.

Yes.  IMO there should be some risk with a 2nd round pick.  If the player develops into a star, and someone offers more than the MLE, that's the risk you get for the reward of paying them peanuts and having little risk of failure when drafting them.

It's like the real NBA.  Had someone offered more than the MLE for michael redd, the bucks would have been helpless.  The difference between how we were and how the NBA is (last CBA) was that our MLE could only be worth 1 year.  That's why I did the thing with the 2nd year, to make our risk/reward more like the true NBA's, not because I don't think there should be some inherent risk in 2nd rounders.

I agree. I think a 6 year deal starting at 4.5 million with 10% increases is a very nice contract, but if someone offers more than that you have to deal with it.

Thats' what happened with Gilbert right?

Yes.

i think we have our first hall of fame candidat. Kidd retired this year and his stats are good enough for that imo.

I'm gonna offer the MLE to Dunkin'.  :lol:

Accepted offers:
http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/2011_accept.htm

(add to that Okafor and Dalembert).

Additional Offers (Nuggets had some personal issues, so I extended his deadline until end of rd 1 draft)

- Nuggets     Pachulia     $5,400,000     $5,940,000     $6,480,000                             $17,820,000
- Nuggets     Radmanovich     $7,924,150     $8,716,565     $9,508,950     $10,301,395     $11,093,810                 $47,544,870     
- Nuggets     Stockton     $2,661,692     $2,927,681                                   $5,589,373

All that money for Radmanovic?! :shock: