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Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: CelticsGM on October 21, 2005, 05:57:51 PM
Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans

Biggest improvements in TC:
1. PG Curtis Sura, Hornets  +9.0
2. SF Chase Russell, Spurs  +8.5
3. SG Dean Drew, Bulls  +8.0
4. PG Eddie Uner, Spurs  +8.0
5. SF Tim Thomas, Spurs  +7.5

rounding out the top 10: Telfair, Blazers - Robertson, Grizz - Keogan (Nolan that is, not Vince), Mavs - Pietrus, Kings - McCracken, Clippers

Interesting: only 2 guys over 30 made in into the top30 here: Tim Thomas and Chauncey Billups. Haslem, Gasol and Etan Thomas were the only others past 26 in the top30.
Nine of the top30 guys had A pot, but 10 C pot and 2 even D pot (as of BEFORE the TC !!!)

Biggest disappointments among vets:
1. PG Andy Miles, Knicks  -9.0
2. C Zendon Hamiltorn, wolves  -7.5
3. PG Alvin Schenk, Nuggets  -7.5
4. ST Sheed Wallace, Rockets  -6.5
5. PF Austin Croshere, Magic  -6.0
rounding out the top10 are Shane Nesterovich, Pistons - Mason Mercer, Bulls - D-Miles, Warriors - Evan Lo, Cavs - A. Johnson, Lakers

Lookign at big names, Miles is the big loser tonight dropping 4 of 5 categories (plus pot) while Mercer and Ferry dropped 3 each, the latter is now F pot !!!

other noteables: Kidd's age finally seems to catch up, but young guys like Oscar Ferry and Terpening and Mercer had bad TC's too. From the top30 here 3 players had B pot, 11 had C and the rest had a D pot, so at least this follows expectations.

All in all 157 people gained ratings and 161 players lost with 97 unchanged (or balanced out wins/losses). Pretty even statline. I'd consider this one of the more friendly TC's (although half of the GMs won't agree), especially for rookies.


Next up: Winners and losers among teams ...


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: ClippersGM-old on October 21, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
Pretty good work there CelticsGM!

Yes indeed, McCracken had D potential (and still has it) though he had a great TC.

I am looking forward to your analysis of teams.


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: MavsGM on October 21, 2005, 06:18:45 PM
Way to go. :tup:


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: BullsGM-old on October 21, 2005, 06:19:34 PM
Nice work bud.  Like I said, Drew was the only bright spot from my TC.

with C+, A offense, I expect no less than 20 ppg.  I think he could possibly average 22 ppg next season


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: BlazersGM on October 21, 2005, 10:55:25 PM
whata about Webber, he actually improved despite being 35  :D


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: Anonymous on October 22, 2005, 12:56:06 AM
Yes, Miles sucked *%^

I am unimpressed


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: SixersGM on October 22, 2005, 04:15:52 AM
Celts ur really good at this. Nice JOB!


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: KingsGM-old on October 22, 2005, 12:56:32 PM
You may also look at Mavs Oscar Jeannette.

B-    B-    C    A-    with    B potential. Not bad for 27th pick.

And yeah, my comp selected 2nd rounder. B- outside, B- inside, B- defense. Idiot, he really thinks he'll see any minutes. :)


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: MavsGM on October 22, 2005, 02:39:30 PM
Jeannette only improves his outside by 1.  Yea, I have to said he was a good pick at the bottom of the first round.


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: SpursGM-old on October 22, 2005, 04:44:11 PM
Can't beleive you mean Tim Thomas (+1 outside)...I think you mean Etan Thomas (+1 inside, +1 reb).


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: CelticsGM on October 23, 2005, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: SpursGM
Can't beleive you mean Tim Thomas (+1 outside)...I think you mean Etan Thomas (+1 inside, +1 reb).

No, sorry Doug, you read that correctly ...

While Etan had a nice TC as well - and you'll love his improvements - it was TIMMY who had a monster TC going one up in scoring and 2 up in defense. Not that his move from C to B- defense will strike fear into opponents now, but according to my formula thats enough to lift him into the top 5.


Gotta love such absolutely meaningless stats ...
 :wink:


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: BullsGM-old on October 23, 2005, 05:15:44 PM
Quote from: BullsGM

with C+, A offense, I expect no less than 20 ppg.  I think he could possibly average 22 ppg next season


So far I'm bang on  :)


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: CavsGM on October 23, 2005, 06:01:12 PM
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While Etan had a nice TC as well - and you'll love his improvements - it was TIMMY who had a monster TC going one up in scoring and 2 up in defense. Not that his move from C to B- defense will strike fear into opponents now, but according to my formula thats enough to lift him into the top 5.

 
Tim Thomas pre-training camp: C+ B C- B- C B

Tim Thomas post-training camp: C+ B+ C- B- C C



???


Title: Quick draft analysis part 2 - Veterans
Post by: CelticsGM on October 24, 2005, 05:52:36 AM
Quote from: CavsGM
Quote
While Etan had a nice TC as well - and you'll love his improvements - it was TIMMY who had a monster TC going one up in scoring and 2 up in defense. Not that his move from C to B- defense will strike fear into opponents now, but according to my formula thats enough to lift him into the top 5.

 
Tim Thomas pre-training camp: C+ B C- B- C B

Tim Thomas post-training camp: C+ B+ C- B- C C



???

Here's the solution: He was listed PF right before TC and he's just C defensively there.

well, i can't check ANYTHING ...
 :lol: