Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 16, 2005, 10:18:26 PM 2010 181 Nets Sign SG Garrett Pettit for $105,393,750 over 7 years.
2010 181 Bucks Sign SG Gilbert Arenas for $98,550,000 over 6 years. 2010 181 Cavs Sign PG Leandro Barbosa for $10,000,000 over one year. 2010 181 Mavericks Sign SF Luke Jackson for $105,393,750 over 7 years. 2010 181 Rockets Sign PG Dawson Wooden for $9,930,000 over 3 years. 2010 181 Bucks Sign PF Oscar Ferry for $105,393,750 over 7 years. 2010 181 Trailblazers Sign PG Darius Perry for $69,059,721 over 6 years. 2010 181 Suns Sign SG Juan Dixon for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Kings Sign PF Danny Fortson for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Bucks Sign PG Marcus Banks for $1,200,000 over one year. 2010 181 Knicks Sign SF Bob Diddle for $50,853,660 over 6 years. 2010 181 Warriors Sign PF Don Ruffin for $17,820,000 over 3 years. 2010 181 Cavs Sign C Jake Tsakalidis for $5,400,000 over one year. 2010 181 Kings Sign SF Tayshaun Prince for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Supersonics Sign SG Ronald Conradt for $5,400,000 over one year. 2010 181 Nets Sign SF Antawn Jamison for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Kings Sign PF Chris Bosh for $38,525,500 over 6 years. 2010 181 Pacers Sign PF Jeff Foster for $10,000,000 over one year. 2010 181 Raptors Sign PF Jamal Del Negro for $82,125,000 over 6 years. 2010 181 Hawks Sign C Lorenzen Wright for $10,000,000 over one year. 2010 181 Hornets Sign SG Lavar Piatkowski for $5,400,000 over one year. 2010 181 Supersonics Sign SF Brian Schader for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Timberwolves Sign C Nolan Johnson for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Warriors Sign C Phillip Rubini for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Jazz Sign C Al Rouseau for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Clippers Sign PF Jackson Finley for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Bulls Sign C Eric Fleisher for $4,500,000 over one year. 2010 181 Rockets Sign SF Patrick Doleac for $4,303,000 over 3 years. 2010 181 Hawks Sign SF Josh Smith for $10,000,000 over one year. 2010 181 Celtics Sign SG Carlos Tower for $3,024,000 over 2 years. 2010 181 Knicks Sign PF Ernest Cousy for $5,093,760 over 3 years. 2010 181 Pacers Sign SF Anderson Varejao for $10,800,000 over 2 years. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: CavsGM on October 16, 2005, 10:23:01 PM Am I seeing right, was Luke Jackson really signed to that contract? Wow, Well, he's locked up, lol. I think I insulted Wooden by offering a contract starting at 650K... :?
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 16, 2005, 10:27:57 PM Well, even though I was 99% sure Pettit would re-sign, it's nice that's over with.
And love getting Antwan Jamison. Other major signings: Blazers must really see something in Darius Perry. Bucks got Ferry and added Arenas. Luke Jackson got some serious scratch. As did Jamal Del Negro. Too bad for the Pistons. Kings get Bosh. I'm not a huge Bosh fan, but that's a bench players contract. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: GoldenStateGM on October 16, 2005, 10:35:22 PM Thrilled to bring Don Ruffin back to Golden State, and for Phillip Rubini to come to his hometown to play. He will be a great player to replace Foyle.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: SonicsGM on October 16, 2005, 10:38:26 PM Schader is a great addition for the Sonics. His defense and rebounding (with that A potential) could be huge off the bench.
Unbelievable though, that the Blazers dealt away Watson (A-/A-) who was making $1 million, then signed Perry (B-/A-) for that huge contract. He probably could have been had for much cheaper. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 16, 2005, 10:43:50 PM Hmm..
All right, I got Del Negro. Awesome. But to get him, I had to give up Bob Diddle and Jackson Finley. Kinda Harsh. At least I'll have Nash back. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: Anonymous on October 16, 2005, 11:18:19 PM I'm very happy to pick up Bob Diddle & Ernest Cousy. Hope to get a couple more during the last 4 days
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: BullsGM-old on October 16, 2005, 11:22:33 PM I got Manu Griffin's virtual clone (obviously a crappier version) with the MLE. He's 24 and averaged 9/9 with the Knicks that season. I'm hoping he improves in Training camp
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 01:43:40 AM Well, I think I will be able to take a good solid run this...
Yao Hoffa Del Negro Lovelette Nash Should be a high scoring lineup with decent, if slightly below average defence. and with the mle to use, i can get something decent there. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: BlazersGM on October 17, 2005, 01:58:14 AM Raps in my opinion are winners of day 1, and yeah Blazers have plans with guy we singed altough he's on block
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 02:08:52 AM Quote from: BlazersGM Raps in my opinion are winners of day 1, and yeah Blazers have plans with guy we singed altough he's on block I'm gonna have to say Nets were the winner by getting Petit back. But yeah, I really think I have a very good team. Very young, so getting a new PG is a must, as Nash is old. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: BlazersGM on October 17, 2005, 02:12:16 AM Well Nets were 99 % of getting him back, so i think you did best job
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: Iverson2Korver43 on October 17, 2005, 02:19:57 AM Wow... I looked at the main roster page last night and it said next day was last day of Draft, and now it is Day 2 of FA and I am fucked out of Del Negro... Just fucking lovely... I guess that's what I get for not following the draft... this truely fucking sucks as does my team...
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: SonicsGM on October 17, 2005, 03:17:00 AM Quote from: PistonsGM Wow... I looked at the main roster page last night and it said next day was last day of Draft, and now it is Day 2 of FA and I am fucked out of Del Negro... Just fucking lovely... I guess that's what I get for not following the draft... this truely fucking sucks as does my team... well, it's not like the calendar changed at any time over the last month. Bods left a message last night that he was going to wait for the final draft sim. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: CelticsGM on October 17, 2005, 03:43:23 AM Quote from: BlazersGM Raps in my opinion are winners of day 1, and yeah Blazers have plans with guy we singed altough he's on block Yeah, a maximum 6yr contract to a PG with a CAREER HIGH 12 points and 5 ASSISTS (!!!). I LOVE THE SSBA ... :lol: Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: PacersGM on October 17, 2005, 05:04:00 AM Quote from: CelticsGM Quote from: BlazersGM Raps in my opinion are winners of day 1, and yeah Blazers have plans with guy we singed altough he's on block Yeah, a maximum 6yr contract to a PG with a CAREER HIGH 12 points and 5 ASSISTS (!!!). I LOVE THE SSBA ... :lol: couldn´t agree more here... :lol: with around 10 pgs available and telfair already there a max offer for a guy who will never be more than a backup is just amazing maybe telfair is one the block???? winner for day 1 should be bucks getting both ferry and arenas is great... biggest problem will be TOs with pierce and possible davis back this team will crush the record for TOs in a season :lol: Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: MagicGM on October 17, 2005, 05:22:43 AM Bill Begay
best free agent available. :D Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: CelticsGM on October 17, 2005, 05:30:10 AM Quote from: PacersGM winner for day 1 should be bucks getting both ferry and arenas is great... biggest problem will be TOs with pierce and possible davis back this team will crush the record for TOs in a season :lol: I have NO CLUE whatsoever how the Magic could choose NOT to resign Arenas, who they gave away their present greatness for (remember, they were 3rd or 4th in the East before the deal). :?: Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: MagicGM on October 17, 2005, 05:41:53 AM he was a cancer.
anyway, I opted to go for the petit and ferry. unfortunately I offered a bigger contract than what was possible. oh well.. also, with the addition of Brice. I don't think I'll be needing him. also, I did a risky move that didn't pay off. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 06:46:27 AM Wow...Danny Fortson, Ty Prince and Chris Bosh. And it's just a day 1 :?: :)
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 07:53:56 AM Quote from: PistonsGM Wow... I looked at the main roster page last night and it said next day was last day of Draft, and now it is Day 2 of FA and I am fucked out of Del Negro... Just fucking lovely... I guess that's what I get for not following the draft... this truely fucking sucks as does my team... As someone already said, the announcement that the last day of the draft was postponed was posted here (http://www.phillyarena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3029): The first day of free agency was run according to our calendar. The season calendar was posted on October 7th [10 days ago (http://www.phillyarena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2937&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)]: That's 10 days ago. The roster page was correct, the last day of the draft was the next thing to do. You knew JDN was going to be a free agent as of the end of playoff round 1 [October 5th, 12 days ago (http://www.phillyarena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2911)]. You knew all the Free Agents (sans undrafted free agents) on October 8th [9 days ago]. So to recap: October 5th - You knew JDN was a free agent October 7th - Season Calendar posted, full 2010 year October 8th - Entire free agent class declared October 16th - Day 1 FA run Why it was imperative that you procrastinate to get your offers in (offers that you admit are able to make or break your team) until the last possible second, I don't know. Why you failed to check the calendar to see when a day that could make or break your team was, I don't know. And how that somehow became my fault [this is in relation more to a pm than tthis post) I REALLY don't know. Maybe I should send mass e-mails to everyone in the league when every sim is run? Maybe I should collect all of your phone numbers and call each and every one of you to remind you when submissions are due? I'm just trying to figure out what exactly I have to do, since it appears not only do I have the responsibility of running the sim but of taking on each gm's responsibilities as well. I do not plan out a full years worth of sims on the calendar for myself. I know things are going to happen. I do it so everybody knows when things are going to happen. It is your responsibility, and yours alone, to check the calendar. Enter it into Outlook (or another PIM). Enter it into a palm (if you have one) or your phone. Print it out and tape it to your computer monitor, I don't care. But it is your responsibility. </rant> Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 07:54:28 AM Kings, you did well.
I personally would have signed Prince to a multi-year contract, as I think he is a bit of a steal at the level yo got him. Great signing with Bosh. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: SonicsGM on October 17, 2005, 07:55:57 AM Quote from: NetsGM Maybe I should send mass e-mails to everyone in the league when every sim is run? Maybe I should collect all of your phone numbers and call each and every one of you to remind you when submissions are due? I'm just trying to figure out what exactly I have to do, since it appears not only do I have the responsibility of running the sim but of taking on each gm's responsibilities as well. </rant> You don't need to do anything. People need to follow the calendar. Simple as that. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 07:58:07 AM Yeah Bods, the fact that you feel the Pistons are saying it's your fault is stupid.
The calender was posted a long time ago, and it was followed. The fact that last nights sim was postponed did not effect FA Day 1 in the least. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 08:13:09 AM Anyway, back to free agency.
I really like my depth. Lo, Miller, Jamison, Salmons, Snow, Turkoglu. Another pg (solely for depth, in case of injury) and I think i'm set. Until the finals, at least. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 08:14:18 AM Quote from: NetsGM Anyway, back to free agency. I really like my depth. Lo, Miller, Jamison, Salmons, Snow, Turkoglu. Another pg (solely for depth, in case of injury) and I think i'm set. Until the finals, at least. :lol: You know, it could be time for you to have a bad TC too. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 08:34:36 AM could be, but i don't put a whole lot of stock in the fickle ratings of before and after tc. It's just not very representative.
I mean Carlos Boozer has fallen off one in inside and one in defense. Last year he still pretty much hit his career averages in both ppg and fg%, and held opposing pf's to 44% shooting (not great, but not terrible, either, and not a dropoff from his days as a B+ defender). Every year the teams who have "bad" training camps usually have good years, and vice versa. Especially when you get guys in their prime. TC can be important for young guys and for old guys, but I feel that I know about what Emeka and Pettit will give me regardless of TC. I remember Keith being worried that KG went down to an A- offensively. Then he put up 27.2 ppg on 46.5% shooting, and would probably still be in the 30 ppg range if it wasn't for gatling. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 08:40:21 AM Quote from: NetsGM could be, but i don't put a whole lot of stock in the fickle ratings of before and after tc. It's just not very representative. I mean Carlos Boozer has fallen off one in inside and one in defense. Last year he still pretty much hit his career averages in both ppg and fg%, and held opposing pf's to 44% shooting (not great, but not terrible, either, and not a dropoff from his days as a B+ defender). Every year the teams who have "bad" training camps usually have good years, and vice versa. Especially when you get guys in their prime. TC can be important for young guys and for old guys, but I feel that I know about what Emeka and Pettit will give me regardless of TC. I remember Keith being worried that KG went down to an A- offensively. Then he put up 27.2 ppg on 46.5% shooting, and would probably still be in the 30 ppg range if it wasn't for gatling. Ha, last year I was worried about Yao going down to A- inside...and look what happened. Good point. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 08:43:40 AM Yes, but there was no Peja and Baron on your team. Natural, his ppg went up
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 08:46:04 AM Right, but the fact that he went down to A- inside didn't affect him.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: MagicGM on October 17, 2005, 08:46:47 AM Quote from: NetsGM I remember Keith being worried that KG went down to an A- offensively. Then he put up 27.2 ppg on 46.5% shooting, and would probably still be in the 30 ppg range if it wasn't for gatling. I knew it.. his name is Keith.. :D Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: HawksGM on October 17, 2005, 09:36:51 AM JDN will be a very good 3rd option for the Raps if that's how the use him. He's definitely not a #1 as I found out but he is a very good third option who will shoot efficiently behind Yao and Hoffa.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 09:41:35 AM Quote from: HawksGM JDN will be a very good 3rd option for the Raps if that's how the use him. He's definitely not a #1 as I found out but he is a very good third option who will shoot efficiently behind Yao and Hoffa. That is exaclt how he wil be used. ANd plus, he's already very, very good, with A potential. He has the potential to take the 2nd option from Hoffa, but not just yet. I am going to have 5 very smart offensive players as my starting lineup...they all shoot a good percentage, keep the turnovers to an acceptable rate, and will be able to defend enough. A+/B/B+/A-/C+ is decent defense. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: HawksGM on October 17, 2005, 09:47:11 AM lol, this time next year the Nets will have Emeka and Sammy to worry about, not to mention Brad Miller if they chose to go that route.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 09:48:46 AM Yeah, but with the way my cap is structured (RE: shot to hell) I'll be able to offer them so much more than anyone else I'm not really worried.
Besides, I'll have another finals loss under my belt, so my win rating should be strong. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 09:51:21 AM I dont see it being a problem resiging them...but it will be interesting.
They are gonna have a payroll of 120 M. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 09:59:21 AM Wow, I didn't realize, I've suprassed the Warriors and now have the 2nd highest payroll in the league (only needing to catch the pacers).
$109 million already spent :) Yeah, I should lead the league in payroll next year. And this was after being a penny pincher prior years. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:01:24 AM I think that is the biggest difference between a sim league and the real NBA - payroll.
But I don't like being in sim leagues with a hard cap either. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: OldNuggetsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:01:50 AM I've tried the penny pinching route this year, and believe me, it doesn't really work. Cap space is overrated.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:03:41 AM Well, it does affect tradability, so I have no problem with how things are (i.e. if I re-sign Dalembert to a 15+ million/year deal his trade value is less).
If I let the following people walk: Okafor Dalembert Brad Miller Darko Jamison Mike Miller Embry Geiger Boykins Snow I can be under the cap by FA for 2013. Question is, can I replace Okafor, Dalembert, Miller, Jamison and Boykins with 10 million (total)? Yeah, I think I'll be blowing up my cap next offseason too. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:05:32 AM Quote from: NuggetsGM I've tried the penny pinching route this year, and believe me, it doesn't really work. Cap space is overrated. I think I would tend to agree. I mean, if you have any players on your team mking double digits, you have to really let everyone else go to make room for someone new. Yesterday I signed JDN, and I'm thrilled. But to do that, I lost Diddle and Finley, and risked losing Nash. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: GoldenStateGM on October 17, 2005, 10:07:41 AM Whoohoo!!!!
Down to the third highest payroll!!! Thank goodness my overpaid players are in their final years... I may be able to get back below 100 million. :D Still thrilled I got he player I needed in free agency this year. Now I have two 20 year old centers, and one of them is likely to become a pretty good player. With my draft of Daniel Holt to back-up Hinrich, and Rubini as a chock full-o-potential center, my team is now 10 deep, possibly 11. Without roster space, free agency is over for me. Bring on Training Camp!!! :) Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: PacersGM on October 17, 2005, 10:21:37 AM Quote from: NetsGM Wow, I didn't realize, I've suprassed the Warriors and now have the 2nd highest payroll in the league (only needing to catch the pacers). $109 million already spent :) Yeah, I should lead the league in payroll next year. And this was after being a penny pincher prior years. with JO entering his final year and almost 40 mill expiring you could have a chance to catch my team here but i doubt it :lol: Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: CelticsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:37:41 AM Quote from: RaptorsGM Yesterday I signed JDN, and I'm thrilled. But to do that, I lost Diddle and Finley, and risked losing Nash. I like del Negro but i'm still not convinced he can be more than a nice player rounding out a starting five with occasional scoring outbursts and good solid defense. Is this worth losing Diddle and Finley, two future studs in the Del Negro class themselves ? Hmmm ... Is this enough to warrant a 6yr max contract? Definitely No. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:41:47 AM For a team that already has 3 max contracted players (Yao, Hoffa and Nash) adding another is no big deal, at all. I have no forseeable cap space for the next 5 years.
And please, did you just call Finley a solid contrbutor....dude was awful, and I think he needs the pace to slow to a crawl to do anything significant. Diddle is solid, but not on the same plane as JDN. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 10:49:00 AM I think i had a pretty good chance of landing JDN. I had the money and his hometown/favorite team is the kIngs! But he's way to short for a PF and a pretty poor rebounder as well so i just offered him a MLE.
He's much better fit for the Raptors anyway since his frontcourt is set so he can play his natural sf position. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: OldNuggetsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:49:48 AM I must admit, I was stunned at the JDN and Jackson deals. I offered both 6 year deals starting around $8 million, which I thought was a fair price, thinking I'd get at least one of them. I got blown out of the water on both.
I should have just kept Carter (and Boykins too, but I was never going to top Nets' 16 million a year offer). :( Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: OldNuggetsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:50:44 AM Quote from: KingsGM I think i had a pretty good chance of landing JDN. I had the money and his hometown/favorite team is the kIngs! But he's way to short for a PF and a pretty poor rebounder as well so i just offered him a MLE. He's much better fit for the Raptors anyway since his frontcourt is set so he can play his natural sf position. I don't know who put him at PF, but his natural position is SF. I'm pretty sure his defense is a B+ there. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 10:53:46 AM He was listed as PF. And i would never give some crazy money for SF. It's position that has the least efect on the game IMO.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 10:54:54 AM Yeah, he is SF. I would have no interest in him if he was a PF.
But what's so stunning about eh JDN deal, Nuggs? I offered him 3 mil more than you did....not that big of a number. I wanted him, bad, and I was almost certain I would land him with a max offer. I'd rather have JDN at the max then no JDN ;) Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: OldNuggetsGM on October 17, 2005, 11:06:30 AM Well, stunning in the sense that I never thought someone would offer him a max deal. Now, Boykins and Carter, I figured they'd get max-type deals when they hit the market. But like I said, I was pretty sure I'd get one of the two SF's, and then to see that they both got max deals, well, let's just say that it was very surprising to me.
So I guess it wasn't exactly stunning, persay, but I sure as hell didn't see that coming. And yeah, your offer sure did ensure you'd have his services for the next 6 years. I don't think he's worth all that money (I think my offer was about 30 million less than yours), but again, I have to reprogram myself to realize that finances work differently here. Like you said, there's not that big of a difference between what I offered and what you got him for. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 11:09:37 AM Yeah, that's exactly right.
Like if I had Yao and Hoffa both expiring next year, I might have thought twice about the offer to JDN. But that wasnt the case, so there is no harm in the offer. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 11:13:58 AM Well, you keep saying that, but there is harm in the offer.
What if JDN doesn't improve at all, doesn't work out, and you wish to move him. The contract will limit the # of people interested and the amount of value you'll get in return. Did you sour on Battier after the contract I gave him? If I remember correctly, the contract did limit your interest. A perfect example of this, IMO, is Collision from a few years ago. Received an enormous deal. Didn't pan out. The Nuggets had to give up talent just to get rid of him. High contract do adversely affect trade value. So there is harm. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 11:19:42 AM Quote from: NetsGM Well, you keep saying that, but there is harm in the offer. What if JDN doesn't improve at all, doesn't work out, and you wish to move him. The contract will limit the # of people interested and the amount of value you'll get in return. Did you sour on Battier after the contract I gave him? If I remember correctly, the contract did limit your interest. A perfect example of this, IMO, is Collision from a few years ago. Received an enormous deal. Didn't pan out. The Nuggets had to give up talent just to get rid of him. High contract do adversely affect trade value. So there is harm. Yes that is very true. But the thing is, when you are way over the cap, and you have a player who isn't working out, you cn afford to just eat the rest of his contract. I agree that the offer will make him harder to move, and i agree that it is a risk, but I believe that it is certainly a risk worth taking. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: CelticsGM on October 17, 2005, 11:24:07 AM Quote from: RaptorsGM But that wasnt the case, so there is no harm in the offer. I agree. His ratings, after 4 years in the league, rank him #107 out of 149 Free Agents this year (according to my complex, position based formula which is VERY hard to understand). He plays way above that, sure, but this makes him as much suspicious to me as the negative effect on winning he had on the Pistons last year. They were 36-31 when they got him and 7-8 with him. Might be coincidence, but who knows how he'll be in 3 years. But max contract ? He'll make as much as 15mio in 5 years, which is superstar money (which he isn't and will never be) Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 11:25:57 AM Are we talking about next Gooden here?
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: MavsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:03:00 PM Hey Nets, I only offer Luke Jackson a six years deal not 7. Can you fix that? If not that's ok.
Luke Jackson First year salary: $10,950,000 Max Raises: 12.5% of first year salary Length of contract: 6 years Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:09:32 PM you're right. yes, i'll fix that. just pm it to me or i'll forget.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 12:14:43 PM All that money for 5ppg sub?
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: HawksGM on October 17, 2005, 12:14:54 PM Quote from: CelticsGM I agree. His ratings, after 4 years in the league, rank him #107 out of 149 Free Agents this year (according to my complex, position based formula which is VERY hard to understand). He plays way above that, sure, but this makes him as much suspicious to me as the negative effect on winning he had on the Pistons last year. They were 36-31 when they got him and 7-8 with him. Might be coincidence, but who knows how he'll be in 3 years. But max contract ? He'll make as much as 15mio in 5 years, which is superstar money (which he isn't and will never be) So having JDN explains why my team was so bad last season :lol: :wink: Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:25:16 PM I guess we'll see, wont we?
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: MavsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:25:18 PM Quote from: KingsGM All that money for 5ppg sub? He can score 15 if he starts. I'm way over the cap anyway, so add another max won't hurt. :D Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:29:11 PM Quote from: MavsGM Quote from: KingsGM All that money for 5ppg sub? He can score 15 if he starts. I'm way over the cap anyway, so add another max won't hurt. :D Preach, brother. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:31:39 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM Quote from: MavsGM Quote from: KingsGM All that money for 5ppg sub? He can score 15 if he starts. I'm way over the cap anyway, so add another max won't hurt. :D ..., brother. I knew there was something fishy about that Hoffa trade :lol: Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:33:22 PM Hahahahahahaha.
Oh Oh Oh touche! Ah, that was good, I'll give you 3 for that. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 12:38:30 PM I'm really thrilled with Bosh's contract. I think it's one of the best in the league. Can't wait for the TC, he's still B potential afterall. He seems like a bust now, but if can give me double double i'd be very pleased.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:44:21 PM at this point I think it would be wise to just look at bosh for what he is. He hasn't improved since he's gotten into this league. If you're expecting more than 13/8, you're going to be disappointed.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:46:09 PM But I agree with you Kings, that is a good price for 13/8.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 12:51:44 PM Quote from: NetsGM at this point I think it would be wise to just look at bosh for what he is. He hasn't improved since he's gotten into this league. If you're expecting more than 13/8, you're going to be disappointed. I know, and i don't have high hopes for him at all. But i'd take 13 and 8 for that kind of money. He's only 9/8 now. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 12:54:19 PM My heart is telling me he could become the next Ty Chandler, but my mind....well, more like a Drew Gooden :?
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: GoldenStateGM on October 17, 2005, 12:55:57 PM Well, I think Bosh will play better with first option player like McGrady.
Wade, in this league, is not a good primary option. But I would not expect a double double from a C+ rebounder. Like the signing. 24 year old PF will be around for many, many years. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 12:56:02 PM Quote from: KingsGM My heart is telling me he could become the next Ty Chandler, but my mind....well, more like a Drew Gooden :? So just trade him for Yao then... :lol: Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 12:57:56 PM Post it, i won't mind. :)
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: NetsGM on October 17, 2005, 01:02:40 PM I agree that it was a great contract. But I also agree with warriors. 10 rpg is extremely high for a C+ rebounder averaging 8.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: KingsGM-old on October 17, 2005, 01:16:47 PM Well he's been only playin 28 minutes for the Lakers. He'll be around 32-33, even maybe more for me. And with his B potential his rebounding could go up to B at least. 10 is not impossible IMO (not that i expect thoug).
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: MavsGM on October 17, 2005, 01:32:14 PM Rebounding me to is the hardest part to improve in FBB.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: RaptorsGM on October 17, 2005, 01:33:39 PM Quote from: MavsGM Rebounding me to is the hardest part to improve in FBB. That doesnt make any sense. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: HornetsGM on October 17, 2005, 01:59:56 PM Wow, these contracts are brutal!
Hornets are happy to resign Piatowski, he put up excellent shooting percentages last season to go along with his A- defense. The Bucks were the obvious winner. Arenas is one of the few players that deserved a max contract, and if they re-sign Baron, they have a very strong team... Unfortunately, it looks like Ferry is the next SAR... Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: BucksGM on October 17, 2005, 02:03:18 PM I can't believe I signed Arenas, but that was the reason I didn't take Baron/Donta's extensions in the first place, giving me the chance to resign them over the cap with bird rights, which I expect I'll be able to do in Day 2.
^ As for Ferry, I kept him at PF where his defense is down some ticks to make him less attractive. At C he's still B defense (for now), so a comparison to SAR is a little over the top. And obviously since I couldn't be sure I'd get something like Arenas, I had to offer Ferry the max. Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: CelticsGM on October 17, 2005, 02:52:54 PM Quote from: BucksGM ^ As for Ferry, I kept him at PF where his defense is down some ticks to make him less attractive. At C he's still B defense (for now), so a comparison to SAR is a little over the top. And obviously since I couldn't be sure I'd get something like Arenas, I had to offer Ferry the max. Nice try :lol: I guess most of us keep score of ratings to avoid falling for such "tricks", but even if you kept one competitor from offering it might have been worth it. Memo to self: Remember to ask bods to put all FAs into natural position Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: JazzGM-old on October 17, 2005, 04:32:03 PM Real happy with Rousseau, pick up some real nice height, at 7'5" and B potential :-D. I think if i learn how to harness shabinger's talent, i'll be in contention yet again for next season.
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: BlazersGM on October 17, 2005, 05:46:44 PM well some players will be on their way out :D , he was my last wish damn, and he signed, but i still have 1 USD for FA :D , seriously
Title: Day 1 FA Results Post by: MavsGM on October 17, 2005, 05:58:20 PM ROFL on the one dollar thing. :lol:
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