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Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on October 05, 2005, 12:29:04 AM
Well, Celts, after neither of us being able to win at home in the first round, nobody won on the road until game 6 of this series.

Congrats on the nice season.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: HornetsGM on October 05, 2005, 01:06:33 AM
*gets consolation from 6ers victory*


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: SonicsGM on October 05, 2005, 01:08:50 AM
I can't see the results.  What happened?


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: HornetsGM on October 05, 2005, 01:12:01 AM
Quote from: SonicsGM
I can't see the results.  What happened?


you swept   :)


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: SonicsGM on October 05, 2005, 01:16:00 AM
Bring on the Clippers --- Once again, I predict Sonics in 6!


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: HornetsGM on October 05, 2005, 01:18:28 AM
lol


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on October 05, 2005, 04:04:54 AM
Thus the (first) magic season of the Celtics ends.
 :cry:

Went down 2-4 to a world class team, BUT ...
... even though I knew i'd lose some blowouts (three to be exact) I also knew I could win the close ones (two to be exact, including a double-OT decision to stay in the series). So the only sour note to this series is going down by one point in the (then-)deciding game 6. I really would have liked my chances in game 7 as my team simply plays better on the road this year (and was due for a breakout game on the road).
 :)

Other than that, the clearly superior individual players prevailed. The tough little one surprised me a bit as I gave Billups some advantage there. Other than that is was business as expected. Pettit with a quiet 24ppg, Emeka and Sammy alone getting nearly 33 boards and 9 swats per game and my shooting around 38%.  :?


Well, in the end it was closer than i expected it to be.
And I wonder if Jefferson starting vs. Emeka, Pau vs. Sammy and bringing Booth off the bench (as I had looooooong considered) would have changed the outcome a bit ...


Good luck Nets for the rest of the mission !


Sidenote: I have absolutely NO IDEA how I could win a game where the opponent gets 80 boards and 16 blocks (with both teams shooting roughly the same % no less) !!!
 :lol:


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on October 05, 2005, 04:33:12 AM
The other series?

1. Wow, the Pacers going down to the one-man show. I really thought they were the better team from 2-5, but it's hard to win when - in the deciding game - your star SG takes 9 shots (for 6 points !) and the 38%-shooting C jacks up 22 shots (i know that about half of them were putbacks of JO misses on the offensive glass ...).

2. Dirk was simply unstoppable, but what really did the Spurs in was the play of Dickau (outplaying Russell) and Kundla (making Schabi invisible). The Spurs were really NEVER in this series. Evidence? They won exactly ONE quarter (3rd Q in game 4) of the SIXTEEN played, losing the first 12 straight away. Sonics outscored Spurs by 23ppg !

3. So much for the (slight) three-peat hopes of the defending champion. Shooting somewhere around 35% in a series won't get you far (especially if the other team is almost 10% better). Only superior taking care of the rock prevented a sweep in double digit blowouts. Guess the Clippers did miss Elton after all and are finally on track now ...

So what comes next?

First of all, a new SSBA champion as none of the four contestants did win a title so far (and only the sonics and nets have some finals experience). I see a Nets-Clippers finals as the swamplanders are a matchup nightmare for TD and the Clippers can hold the Sonics in check defensively (which if the Jazz couldn't i don't see the Sonics doing at all). But I might be totally off here ...

 8)


Title: Re: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on October 05, 2005, 04:35:54 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
Well, Celts, after neither of us being able to win at home in the first round, nobody won on the road until game 6 of this series.

Congrats on the nice season.

Thanks, it's been a success nevertheless.

And as the old saying goes, a series doesn't start until a team wins on the road. Too bad the "wrong" team won first ... :wink:


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on October 05, 2005, 04:40:07 AM
I honestly thought Pettit would have a little more success than he did on the offensive end.  I didn't think that there was one bit of a chance in hell Lenard could stay with Pettit on the perimeter, but Pettit was very human in this series, particularly later in the series.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on October 05, 2005, 05:29:38 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
I honestly thought Pettit would have a little more success than he did on the offensive end.  I didn't think that there was one bit of a chance in hell Lenard could stay with Pettit on the perimeter, but Pettit was very human in this series, particularly later in the series.

Well, just now i recognize how you nearly handed the series to me:

A.Lenard: 22.2ppg, 4.5rpg, 1.7apg, 2.3st, 1.3to  42%fg, 33%3p, 88%ft
Ga.Pettit: 24.7ppg, 7.0rpg, 4.8apg, 1.3st, 4.0to, 44%fg, 37%3p, 92%ft
Lenard did get his ppg avg, but -3%fg -4%3p, Pettit was 6ppg below avg, -4%fg -7%3p !!!!!

But the real difference was Boykins: 22ppg, 5rpg, 11apg, 55%fg while holding Billups to 15ppg on 33% shooting !!!


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: SixersGM on October 05, 2005, 07:35:44 AM
Please let me win before Tim Duncan retires.

Sixers vs Nets = David vs Goliath

Well, i've been the underdog since the playoff started. I just hope that austin, terp and dre can do a good job defensively like what they did with my past 2 play-off opponents.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: PacersGM on October 05, 2005, 07:56:16 AM
Quote from: SixersGM
Please let me win before Tim Duncan retires.

Sixers vs Nets = David vs Goliath

Well, i've been the underdog since the playoff started. I just hope that austin, terp and dre can do a good job defensively like what they did with my past 2 play-off opponents.


i can´t see that happen since the nets are the only team except maybe the sonics who could really hurt you from outside your weakest position.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: PacersGM on October 05, 2005, 08:10:48 AM
congrat to the sixers ..

i had a good chance to win it but my coach couldn´t change his tactics  :wink:
Damp also thought he can win this series and had a statline of 16ptspg and 15 rbpg as well as 3 blks and shot 85% from the line  :shock:
but he also took the shots melo normally would have taken and shot under 40%  :?
JO had his usual great line 26/14/4 and 4blks


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on October 05, 2005, 08:23:51 AM
Quote from: PacersGM
congrat to the sixers ..

i had a good chance to win it but my coach couldn´t change his tactics  :wink: ...

FIRE HIM !

He got outcoached so badly, his further career is in deep trouble now ...

 :twisted:


Title: dsadasd
Post by: HeatGM on October 05, 2005, 08:45:27 AM
wowowee... sixers must be surprised.... :lol:  i think bods will win it all.....petit is simply amazing..by far the best first pick ever....his a superstar from the day his drafted and for many years to come.....


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on October 05, 2005, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
I honestly thought Pettit would have a little more success than he did on the offensive end.  I didn't think that there was one bit of a chance in hell Lenard could stay with Pettit on the perimeter, but Pettit was very human in this series, particularly later in the series.



Maybe you shouldn't resign him then...


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: SpursGM-old on October 05, 2005, 09:39:21 AM
Congrats to the Sonics.  Dirk is playing like a man possessed.  Mihm had decent defense against him in the regular season matchups (41.5 FG%, 36% 3PT%) but couldn't stop Dirk in these 4 games (48.8 FG%, 41.2 3PT%).

The other big difference was English's defense on Parker.  35% from the floor and over 4 TO per game.

Also I think that Allen's injury really came back to haunt me in this series.  I really missed that veteran scorer who helps take the pressure off of my other offensive players.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on October 05, 2005, 10:02:12 AM
Emeka's average of 18rpg is just ridicilous and i shouldn't be happening IMO.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on October 05, 2005, 10:18:11 AM
What, do you want me to go back and re-sim?  Cancel whenever one of my players does well?


Over the last 2 years emeka has more rebounds than anyone in the league.  He's averaged nearly 14 per game over the last 153 regular season games.  Having a superb 12 games, 6 of which were against one of the lesser rebounding teams in the playoffs, isn't a surprise.

I don't think McGrady should have an A- A- A- in inside outside and defense with B handles.  You don't see me complaining.

BTW, Pettit was a #2 pick, not #1, for the heat.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: SixersGM on October 05, 2005, 10:22:21 AM
Quote from: KingsGM
Emeka's average of 18rpg is just ridicilous and i shouldn't be happening IMO.


WOW

Do i realy to go up against the nets?


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: HawksGM on October 05, 2005, 10:23:33 AM
Quote from: NetsGM

BTW, Pettit was a #2 pick, not #1, for the heat.


yes, unfortunately he wasn't chose #1, some big stiff was chosen ahead of him, what gm would have made that mistake :lol:


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on October 05, 2005, 10:30:02 AM
Hahaha.

You were *this* close to have Emeka too, if you remember.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: HawksGM on October 05, 2005, 10:32:38 AM
lol, i know i should be in your position right now, I was a J-Kidd and RJeff trade away from having Emeka and a false potential attribute away from being the gm with Emeka and Petit.  oh well, now I have Ivan and his C defense and Jameer and his low %'s and high TO's.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on October 05, 2005, 10:54:52 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
What, do you want me to go back and re-sim?  Cancel whenever one of my players does well?


Over the last 2 years emeka has more rebounds than anyone in the league.  He's averaged nearly 14 per game over the last 153 regular season games.  Having a superb 12 games, 6 of which were against one of the lesser rebounding teams in the playoffs, isn't a surprise.

I don't think McGrady should have an A- A- A- in inside outside and defense with B handles.  You don't see me complaining.

BTW, Pettit was a #2 pick, not #1, for the heat.


I certanly haven't asked for you to re sim. Nor do i want that.

And doesn't matter if he's best rebounder in the game, average of 18rpg shouldn't be happening, not even in NBA Live and not even in sim leagues. It's just too much. At least that's how i feel.

Yes, Mcgrady is having great, great ratings, but i haven't seen him averaging 40 or 45 ppg. His numbers are pretty realistic, 30ppg and he's not even the first scorer in the league.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on October 05, 2005, 10:59:37 AM
Yeah well an average of 36 ppg shouldn't be happening either. But it is. Get used to it.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: PacersGM on October 05, 2005, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: KingsGM
Quote from: NetsGM
What, do you want me to go back and re-sim?  Cancel whenever one of my players does well?


Over the last 2 years emeka has more rebounds than anyone in the league.  He's averaged nearly 14 per game over the last 153 regular season games.  Having a superb 12 games, 6 of which were against one of the lesser rebounding teams in the playoffs, isn't a surprise.

I don't think McGrady should have an A- A- A- in inside outside and defense with B handles.  You don't see me complaining.

BTW, Pettit was a #2 pick, not #1, for the heat.


I certanly haven't asked for you to re sim. Nor do i want that.

And doesn't matter if he's best rebounder in the game, average of 18rpg shouldn't be happening, not even in NBA Live and not even in sim leagues. It's just too much. At least that's how i feel.

Yes, Mcgrady is having great, great ratings, but i haven't seen him averaging 40 or 45 ppg. His numbers are pretty realistic, 30ppg and he's not even the first scorer in the league.


i know some guys who could rebound 18 per game in real nba why shouldn´t it be here. TD and JO are also avg. great numbers and JO did it with damp also avg more than 12.
it might be because most teams are shooting pretty bad in the POs


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on October 05, 2005, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: RaptorsGM
Yeah well an average of 36 ppg shouldn't be happening either. But it is. Get used to it.


Why not? Jordan and Iverson were all very close to that. I could swallow that.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CavsGM on October 05, 2005, 11:16:02 AM
Rodman averaged 18 RPG for a few seasons. And that's this era...


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on October 05, 2005, 11:51:31 AM
You mean his own 18 tippofs per game?


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on October 05, 2005, 12:11:40 PM
if somebody was averaging 18 rebounds for a season, i'd agree with you.  having a great 12 games is nothing to be alarmed about.  If I were to be alarmed about anything it's tim duncan averaging 34/14 for a season at 31 years old.  When's that happened?  In real life his best season was 25/13.  Kareem only bested 34/14 once.  Bill Russell never.  Nate Thurmond never got more than 21 ppg.  Shaq never bested 30.  Moses never got 34.  Hakeem's best season was 24/14.  Really, only Wilt and Kareem have ever scored more than 30 ppg from a C position.  Think about that.  Big men just don't score like that.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on October 05, 2005, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
if somebody was averaging 18 rebounds for a season, i'd agree with you.  having a great 12 games is nothing to be alarmed about.  ...


Exactly, look who he got the 18rpg against: Jacques Holton and Evan Lo, Gasol and Al Jefferson. Hardly the cream of PFs around here.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on October 05, 2005, 01:13:54 PM
Alright, we shell see will his numbers go down to earth against the very cream of pf's next round.

But still, 18rpg is too much against ANYBODY.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: ClippersGM-old on October 05, 2005, 03:47:02 PM
Quote from: SonicsGM
Bring on the Clippers --- Once again, I predict Sonics in 6!


 :moon:


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: ClippersGM-old on October 05, 2005, 03:50:11 PM
By the way... I still think that player of the game award is something strange.

Game 2 against the Jazz: Chandler has 19 points, 13 rebounds and 7 blocks at 50% shooting and he still did not get the award.
Kinda strange... though I know Brand had a good all around game.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: ClippersGM-old on October 05, 2005, 03:56:03 PM
Brand held Kirilenko to only 10ppg in this series! I knew that missing Brand for almost half the season was tough.

So go and check the articles. There is one about Brand...

Raptors... I talked to my source again and he again told me that there are rumors about Brand re-signing with the Clippers. However nothing is known about the Clippers' other big men.... stay tuned!


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on October 05, 2005, 03:59:00 PM
Quote from: ClippersGM
Brand held Kirilenko to only 10ppg in this series! I knew that missing Brand for almost half the season was tough.

So go and check the articles. There is one about Brand...

Raptors... I talked to my source again and he again told me that there are rumors about Brand re-signing with the Clippers. However nothing is known about the Clippers' other big men.... stay tuned!


I'm glued to the screen waiting for the results :)


Title: sdasd
Post by: HeatGM on October 05, 2005, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
What, do you want me to go back and re-sim?  Cancel whenever one of my players does well?


Over the last 2 years emeka has more rebounds than anyone in the league.  He's averaged nearly 14 per game over the last 153 regular season games.  Having a superb 12 games, 6 of which were against one of the lesser rebounding teams in the playoffs, isn't a surprise.

I don't think McGrady should have an A- A- A- in inside outside and defense with B handles.  You don't see me complaining.

BTW, Pettit was a #2 pick, not #1, for the heat.


woah...why so defensive? i wasnt complaining or anything was just saying how pettit is simply amazing...lolz..... :lol:  hmm.....?


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on October 05, 2005, 07:20:35 PM
The first part of my post was against KingsGM, not you.

Only the last line was meant for you, and wasn't defensive at all.  It was more to take a stab at HawksGM (and it worked) for passing on Pettit :)


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: SixersGM on October 05, 2005, 08:12:55 PM
Quote from: KingsGM
Alright, we shell see will his numbers go down to earth against the very cream of pf's next round.

But still, 18rpg is too much against ANYBODY.


Wow.. He doesnt only get 18rpg, but he's the only guy in the entire league that can make TD look like shit. TD is playing weirdly up against the nets.


Title: sdasdas
Post by: HeatGM on October 05, 2005, 08:32:21 PM
FBB isnt realistic at all ehehehe everybody is averaging 30ppg ehehhe...lets play nbalive instead? lolz


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: JazzGM-old on October 05, 2005, 09:21:15 PM
I think the key to my early exit was not outperforming ben gordon and yeah kirilenko really got shut down, but hey the 2 time playoff mvp can't do it all the time, I'm still tough for seasons to come, but this next depends on Kaman's TC.


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: HawksGM on October 06, 2005, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
The first part of my post was against KingsGM, not you.

Only the last line was meant for you, and wasn't defensive at all.  It was more to take a stab at HawksGM (and it worked) for passing on Pettit :)


lol, o yea it definitely worked


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on October 06, 2005, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: ClippersGM
Brand held Kirilenko to only 10ppg in this series! I knew that missing Brand for almost half the season was tough.

So go and check the articles. There is one about Brand...

Raptors... I talked to my source again and he again told me that there are rumors about Brand re-signing with the Clippers. However nothing is known about the Clippers' other big men.... stay tuned!


BRAND  8)  NEW NEWS AVAILABLE here:
http://phillyarena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22339#22339


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on October 06, 2005, 04:23:37 PM
He's coming to T-Dot...he LOVES to snowboard.

www.espn.go.com/elton_brand/snowboardstory.html


Title: Round 2 Discussion
Post by: MavsGM on October 06, 2005, 04:29:24 PM
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