SSBA

This one is big...

Warriors Trade
Kareem Longley
Raptors Trade
Jim Finley and the Spurs 2010 2nd round pick

And here come the blockbuster part...

Warriors Trade
Rafael Araujo
Raptors Trade
Luol Deng and Dean Springs

Reasons to follow.

Raptors Agree to this trade.

Well, the reason I did this trade is because it gives me the best front court ever. And it FINALLY atones for my gaff of trading Hoffa before the first season, I can now rest peacefully again.

I traded both my picks, so I'm looking at about 12 mil in cap space, more than the max amount. And pending the resiging of Nash and Diddle, I really only need a SF/SG.

For now my lineup will be:

Yao
Hoffa
Diddle
Lovelette
Nash

Possibly good enough to sneak into the playoffs, but probably not realistic.

I also really didn't want to give up Springs, but getting Longely back is nice, he has a nice set of skills, and good size.

Hey the Hoffa trade wasn't bad, Pavel is not bad of a player.

That's true. Ands Finley did good for me

But it was still pretty bad.

Have I officially lost my kind???  The answer, is YES!!!

Many will think this is a knee jerk reaction to a bad season.

What this is, is the realization the the Clips are almost unbeatable in the next 2-3 years.  So I decided to get ready for when the Clips do become beatable.

Araujo proved this year that he cannot carry a team.  He will improve greatly with the Raptors, I am sure, and return to his close to his old form.

But Deng is 22, and an excellent player who will likely improve.  Springs is 21 years old, and will be a fine replacement for Kobe, when Kobe gets up there in age.  And Finley is only 19 years old, and still has plenty of rrom for improvement.

It can't be a knee jerk reaction if it tkaes weeks to conceive :)

And the good part of me getting Hoffa is that I don't have to cunt on him to be a team-carrier, I already have a proven one./

You don't have to cunt on him, eh? Freudian slip of the tongue - you must really like getting Hoffa back :wink:

hahaha




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Wow, I'm really at a loss for words here.

It's not like the Warriors didn't get good return. Finley is a good project with "major upside potential", Deng might not be the next Marion but isn't that far away either, and Springs is, well, probably a step down from Longley but with some potential too.

No, its the unique player they gave up here: Those don't come very often and you simply don't give up those unless an equal talent like Yao or so comes knocking. You simply don't ...  :?


And finally, the puzzeling statement: "Araujo proved this year that he cannot carry a team (in the absence of Kirk)"
Well, nobody, not even the best solo artist, can lead an orchestra when the conductor is absent. It's simply not his job. Hoffa proved time after time on the Mavs he CAN lead this team with the right support group around him.
 :shock:

Araujo had the support of Stromile Swift, Paul Pierce, and Andre Iguodala.  That is a not too shabby group, if you ask me.  And, without Hinrich, Araujo, the undisputed leader of the team, led the Warriors straight into the lottery.

With the Mavs, Araujo was surrounded by Dirk, Eric Dampier, and the combo of Jason Terry and Devin Harris.  Dirk carried that team. Not Hoffa.

But, time will tell.  Both the Raps and I had great sims.  The true question is if that success can be maintained.

Hoffa may have found his niche playing 2nd fiddle to Yao.

28, 13 in the first sim is nothing to shake a stick at.

Was par for the course last year...
If you lose Nash, though, Hoffa is in deep trouble.

If I lose Nash, I'll replace him with a younger PG with potential to be better.

Memo to Warriors: See what he can do when an actual classy POINT GUARD gets him the ball where he can be most effective (as opposed to a "SF-made-PG" PG or "maybe-there-is-a-reason-why-i-was-a-2nd-rounder-even-though-they-made-an-own-rule-because-of-me" PG).

Sorry, Iggy and Bird are NOT great PGs, Kirk is. btw, you were 9-6 this year with him and Hoffa in the lineup ...
 :wink:

Yeah, that's true.

I'm pretty happy wit my Baron-Nash trade..defense isn't my thing this year, my thing is outscoring opponents, and Nash certainly helps that...wish he was 10 years younger though.

The point is, that Amare, Yao, and Duncan, for example, have played extremely well with below average point guards feeding them the ball.  Araujo appears to be incapable of that.  Hence, while he can be a great offensive focus, he needs alot of support around him.

Plus, like I said, I did not think I could compete with the Clippers with my team built the way it was.  This was really they key.
I felt my window with Swift and Araujo was about 3-4 years.  And the Clippers will basically be in their prime during those years.
And this past sim, I was able to beat a Brand-less Clipper in Clipperland.  It is a first, small step.
But I broke the Cardinal rule of basketball trades...  I traded big for small.  And I did that just after trading away Brian Cardinal...  Coincidence or not?

BTW, the sim when Iggy was at PG...  That was Araujo's 2nd best sim of the season :)
I actually wish I had done that earlier in the season...

double post

What's up with everyone quoting their own posts?

And I tihnk Araujo is going to have success no matter who plays the point for me this year.

Yao is an excellent passer for a big man, IMO. He's had some very high assist games.

There is no edit function in this forum...  And where the edit button usually is, the quote button resides.

Yao and Nash are both excellent passers, that will be what makes the combination work offensively...

erm...as long as you're logged in, there's an edit button next to the quote button on your posts.

Ahh..touche.

well, I tink both big men have enough offensivly talent to thrive with any PG...I'm just hoping it's Nash for 2-3 more years. If the defense drops to C, though, I will refuse to start him.

Yeah man, there's definitely an edit button.

Who is this mysertious testgm?

And I also see no edit button. most be for mods only.

nope, nevermind.

this forum was messed up, different than all the other setup forums.  fixed.