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Deal didn't work as originally posted so here's the revised deal...

Hawks Trade:
Jim Finley
Spurs 2011 1st

Raptors Trade:
Lorenzen Wright
Raptors 2010 1st
Spurs 2010 1st
Raptors 2012 1st

The Hawks and I are going to change this deal.

The Raptors agree to this trade.

Well, I felt this was WAY too much to give up for Finley, but Finley wasn't for me, he was for the Warriors.

So I traded Raptors Pick, Spurs Pick, Raptors 2012 first, Deng and Springs for Hoffa and the Spurs 2011 first.

Hoffa heading back to Toronto. :lol:

Finally :)

I wonder how nobody noticed so far that the Hawks really ROBBED the Raptors here.

No doubt, Finley is nice and he might be a heck of a player some day (though probably never on the offensive end), but getting an solid(translates: old) replacement and 2 mid-1st rounders this year plus a swap of picks is a lot.

I wonder if it was because everone realized that the Raptors only traded for Finley because they needed him for the Warriors deal?

The Raptors trade the 8th pick, the 16th pick, Deng and Springs for Araujo.

They'll take it.

Funny sidenote: Take into account what the Hawks gave up initially to get Finley (for which they were beaten here) and the deal looks like this:

PG Schenk
Sonics 10 1st (currently #26)
Spurs 11 1st (projected #15)

for

C Lorenzen
Raptors 10 1st (currently #8)
Spurs 10 1st (currently #14)
Raptors 12 1st (projected #25)

I'd call that still something the Hawks could do if Schenk isn't in their plans, but them hardly come out huge winner here.

Funny sidenote: Take into account what the Hawks gave up initially to get Finley (for which they were beaten here) and the deal looks like this:

PG Schenk
Sonics 10 1st (currently #26)
Spurs 11 1st (projected #15)

for

C Lorenzen
Raptors 10 1st (currently #8)
Spurs 10 1st (currently #14)
Raptors 12 1st (projected #25)

I'd call that still something the Hawks could do if Schenk isn't in their plans, but them hardly come out huge winner here.

Of course thats the reason, but I look sorely on the Hawks point of view here ...

 :roll:

Then you're not seeing the whole picture.

The Raptors have no intrest in Finley and would not have given up even the Spurs pick for him, but they had no choice as he was an esential piece in the Hoffa deal.

technicaly, you could say they robbed me...

Those 2 firsts this year could have been mine just as easily as Finley.
Finley is already a good player, and is 19 years old, with B potential.  He has some serious growth left in him, I think.

Finley is perfect role player for now.

Sure, that's what "looking sorely at the Hawks point of view" means.

THEY must have felt like Alice in Wonderland what suddenly dropped into their laps ...

SCARY !
 :shock:


A 7'3" center weighting 307lbs having some "serious growth" in him. What the hell are we talking about here?
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I'll bet they did.

I know I would of. Although there is a serious chance that neither of those picks will be lotto.

Yea, I always knew the Raps would make a good push, I'm just hoping it's too late and that the Spurs faulter so I can get 2 lotto picks.

It could happen. Right now you're Spurs pick is Tied for 16th due to them being in the playoff picture. But if they fall out of the playoffs it jumps to 12th.

I know, disturbing...  X-rays showed he could grow up to 7'6 inches...  :D

Truly, all I hope for from Finley is to be a good defensive and rebounding center.  
If he makes it to a C+ in, I will be quite happy.  Really want his rebounding to go up, and then some defense.

That C handle though...  I really like that about him.

Yes, C handle, nice.

Of course, if you ever actually allow him to touch the ball on offense it will have been a mistake ;)

Actually, I think the reason he takes so few shots is because of his handle (I hope)  9 rebounds per game this last sim, and only 5 shots per game.

That is very few shots for a big man who plays 31 minutes.  Most big men accidentally put up 10 shots per game.   :D

The jury is still out. Obviously Swift or Maggette would have been better choices, and beleive me when I say the Warriors and I tried everything in ur power to get him.

I love Finley's size, but I'm not even sure if he'd be playing on my team rigt now.

It's going to take alot of improvment for him to be a quality starting C.

I hope he does improve for you.

He is perfect for my current team, just maybe not for everyone.

I know it is only one sim, but 9 rebounds and 2 blocks in 30 mpg is pretty decent.  And that aligns well with his season averages.  

Even though his shooting percentage is bad (37%), who cares?  On the season so far, he takes less then 4 shots per game.  

I do not need him (or want him) to score, and I am very glad he does not take many shots.  The problem will be if he decides to start taking more shots.  For now, he is an excellent fit for my team.

I also have 4 scorers at my other positions, which is something most teams do not have.

Hopefully, next year his rebounding and defense will go up.