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Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: MagicGM on September 24, 2005, 07:36:30 PM
you guys must have forgotten this. I had a great sim thus far. but my team went down by 2 spots on the standings. yikes.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: SonicsGM on September 24, 2005, 08:35:48 PM
Nicklaus English falls one assist shy of the single game record with 21 dimes against the Cavaliers.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: CavsGM on September 24, 2005, 09:29:29 PM
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Nicklaus English falls one assist shy of the single game record with 21 dimes against the Cavaliers.


That's the second time your team crushed mine. Stop making me look bad... :P

Other then that loss to the Sonics and a close one to the Bulls, it was a great sim, going 5-2. And I really needed it after the the terrible 2-7 sim. I let Vince & Vince run wild, going with an outside focus so they can rain down treys all game. It's not a bad idea, when both just shoot so well. I'm also loving Evan Lo as my backup SF/PF. He has the ability to put up 15+ points in a game in just around 25 minutes. And he does at with solid shooting.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: BlazersGM on September 24, 2005, 09:33:58 PM
not a great one of course (2-3) considering the teams youth, but Houbregs has been really impressive since he was put as an option (1st) after all the trades i've done, in 32.6mpg was on 23.4ppg,5.4rpg,1.9apg,2spg and shooting 50.0 % FG, 56 % 3P and 88 % FT, not bad at all for a rookie that was in the shadow of other players before, but now with more space, he's been pretty impressive , and as season is almost ending and the  Lakers in same position as me, it gives a lot of hope of possible 2 TOP 5 picks or almost for sure two secured TOP 10 picks now.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 24, 2005, 10:24:15 PM
Wow...  6-1 sim...  Looks like my team really enjoyed Hinrich coming back.  Wonder if this can continue, or if it was just a fluke sim.

We shall see.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: BullsGM-old on September 25, 2005, 12:48:36 AM
I've won 8 in a row and 13 of my last 14

In the second half of the year I've went 15-4, I'm on a huge tear.  

I'm holding home court advantage for the first time in my career and my sched is pretty favourable down the stretch


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: WolvesGM on September 25, 2005, 12:57:32 AM
!!!! Bill Embry !!!!      My pg Vince Davies gets injured 4minutes into the Pacers game, and Embry comes in and puts up 13/8/8. Next game, he records a 12assist game(not much) but a game after that against the Spurs, Embry gets his first triple double of his career. 10points, 11assist and 10rebounds. If that wasnt enough, he records a near triple double 16points, 10assist and 9rebounds. WoW!   Sure... Jason Kidd does this on a daily basis but this is a back up PG were talkin about!  WoW!!!!


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: ClippersGM-old on September 25, 2005, 07:01:37 AM
I had forgotten about this change in the schedule. I will have to get used to it.

Clippers are crusing into first place in the West. However, they will happily welcome Elton Brand back in a few weeks for that Championship run.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: MagicGM on September 25, 2005, 07:19:25 AM
damn.. while your team is cruising, my team is losing its homecourt advantage.

expect a big change here on, on my starting line-up.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on September 25, 2005, 09:52:11 AM
Well tried the normal pace, went 2-3, killed my playoff hopes.

Guess this proves that I wasn't tanking.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on September 25, 2005, 10:50:48 AM
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Well tried the normal pace, went 2-3, killed my playoff hopes.

Guess this proves that I wasn't tanking.


*sigh*

This doesn't prove anything.  Tanking is based on intent.  You take a look at your post about your draft pick and tell me how we were supposed to take it.

Besides, 2-3 is a .400 winning %.  Roughly the same as your season winning %.   Clearly not enough to prove what is the best setting for your team (which, again, is different than proving intent).

In fact, the fact that you're changing after 5 games whereas before you let Fast/Very Fast fail for 8 sims I think shows as much about your intent.

When I questioned you about your settings before, it was not to call you out on tanking.  Because noone is here to tell you how to run your team, and your dc alone was not enough proof of tanking.  Being misguided is not the same as tanking.  My goal was to find out your reasoning for your dc beyond "to have them catch up to Yao".  And, unfortunately IMO, you did.

This series of exchanges is the crux of any tanking argument:
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Just looking at things on a per minute basis.

Yao's points per shot are exact same as last year.

His minutes are up. If you extrapolate his points/minute and rebounds/minute up to the minutes he's playing this year, he'd be averaging 34.5 and 14.5. In otherwords, 3 points less and pretty much equal rebounds.

His increase in points can be attributed to an increase in shots, the lack of peja.

His defense has gotten worse despite being a higher rated defender. And your team is losing despite your pg getting older.

:stillconfused:

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It's not all that confusing if you really, really want to think about it...I shouldn't sa much else though.

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Oh, I know.

You want your draft pick.

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Yup.

I'm kinda pissed that it went to 4th, bt I obviously can't tank, it's against the rules.

I want that top PF.


That's pretty black and white to me.  But the decision's not solely up to Hornets and I.

But anyway, it's a moot point, since you didn't get 5 nominations.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: BullsGM-old on September 25, 2005, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: NetsGM


But anyway, it's a moot point, since you didn't get 5 nominations.


Then why bring it up?  This will probably be followed by Raptors making a post restating he didn' intend to tank, which will probably lead to another argument.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on September 25, 2005, 11:12:22 AM
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But anyway, it's a moot point, since you didn't get 5 nominations.


Then why bring it up?  This will probably be followed by Raptors making a post restating he didn' intend to tank, which will probably lead to another argument.


Because I'm stating my opinion and explaining why there is no official ruling.

The tanking issue was brought up by RaptorsGM.  I'm bringing forth my opinion.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: RaptorsGM on September 25, 2005, 12:03:27 PM
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But anyway, it's a moot point, since you didn't get 5 nominations.


Then why bring it up?  This will probably be followed by Raptors making a post restating he didn' intend to tank, which will probably lead to another argument.


Nope I don't do that anymore.

And Nets, yeah, I understand where you are cming from, but my last two sims were both above .500. I was only going to the Normal pace so I wouldn't be accused of tanking.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on September 25, 2005, 02:40:08 PM
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But anyway, it's a moot point, since you didn't get 5 nominations.


Then why bring it up?  This will probably be followed by Raptors making a post restating he didn' intend to tank, which will probably lead to another argument.


Nope I don't do that anymore.

And Nets, yeah, I understand where you are cming from, but my last two sims were both above .500. I was only going to the Normal pace so I wouldn't be accused of tanking.

I don't want to add any more to this crappy tanking discussion (other than the Raptors are the worst semi-tanking team ever), but allow one question: if fast and very fast pace led you to two successful sims, why do you change it to normal to prove your NOT tanking ???

Ranks a decent 8.7 on my personal "unintentional comedy scale", this whole discussion ...  :lol:


Title: Re: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on September 25, 2005, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: MagicGM
you guys must have forgotten this. I had a great sim thus far. but my team went down by 2 spots on the standings. yikes.

Now i don't know exactly what you call a great sim, but I sure you definitely DIDN'T have one.

For the Hawks (not meant personal here) 4-5 would be a successful sim, but I admit I expect more from the (former) 4th seed in our Conference ...

 :?:


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on September 25, 2005, 03:12:55 PM
I have to stop being dissatisfied about individual games, so I call this 6-3 sim successful despite losing to the Wizards (for the first time in 4 season games) and Lakers. With the Hornets, Nets, Sixers, Grizzlies and Spurs I also BEAT 5 playoff teams.

Just to repeat that, the Celtics, recently called the worst team in SSBA, beat the NETS at the Meadowlands, joining the Sonics, Hornets, Sixers and Grizzlies as the only teams to accomplish this feat.

Detailled analysis will follow (after celebrations) ...
 :wink:


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: KingsGM-old on September 25, 2005, 03:15:50 PM
Boy, it really suck to.........well, suck.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: JazzGM-old on September 25, 2005, 09:55:00 PM
Daniels doesn't produce like he used to as a third option...I guess the next thing to do is try Curran again as third option...take advantage of Hughes B- handles and move my focus to inside as Hughes and Kirilenko are better scorers from the inside. Daniels will hopefully just be his efficient self which is all I ask, as I should still get plenty of scoring now that i have a balance of it in my scorers and on my bench. Still barely holding on to that first place spot in the division, but it seems like things should turn around...the first sim after changes is always a little rough.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: Anonymous on September 25, 2005, 10:34:09 PM
Well.....We still suck (2-4 this Sim, with a win at home over the Rockets and a blowout win at home over the Jazz and losses on the road to the Nuggets, Cavs & Hornets and at home to Cleveland), but that is to be expected. Trevor Wells is still playing like a monster though. His line in the six games this Sim:

MPG: 37.8
PPG: 28.2
RPG: 4.5
APG: 3.7
SPG: 2.0
FG%: 45.6%
3PT%: 44.4% (16-36)
FT%: 83.0% (Got to the line an average of 7.8 times a game)

He had games of 39, 32 & 29.

In our win versus the Rockets he scored 29pts on 9-14 from the field, 6-7 from 3 and 5-5 from the line. Now that is efficiency.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: NetsGM on September 26, 2005, 01:34:07 AM
Finally took the time to look at the sim.

5-2.  Odd losses.  To the Celtics at home than to the Bucks.  But also a really good win (@Pacers).

Outscored opponents by 15.  Held them to 41.6% shooting.  Won turnovers by +2.  Rebounding by +7.  Blocks by +6.  

Pettit was the star.  33 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 6.1 apg, 2.3 spg, 48% shooting, 46.3% 3pt.

Emeka was a great 2nd option, second great sim in a row offensively.  25.4 ppg, 14 rpg, 3.9 bpg, 46.5% shooting, 66.6% ft.  Held pf's to 39% shooting.

Boykins was great as well.  22.7 ppg, 9.9 apg, 1.5 topg, 1.6 spg, 59% shooting, 52% 3pt, 1.45 pps.  Held opponent pg's to 39%.

Dalembert held starting C's to 36% while contributing 11.1 rpg and 3.3 bpg.


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on September 26, 2005, 04:24:02 AM
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Finally took the time to look at the sim.

5-2.  Odd losses.  To the Celtics at home than to the Bucks.  But also a really good win (@Pacers).

Some interesting observations from the Celtics road win over the Nets here:
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Pettit was the star.  33 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 6.1 apg, 2.3 spg, 48% shooting, 46.3% 3pt.

Pettit got 36 / 9 / 3 on 48% shooting
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Emeka was a great 2nd option, second great sim in a row offensively.  25.4 ppg, 14 rpg, 3.9 bpg, 46.5% shooting, 66.6% ft.  Held pf's to 39% shooting.

Emeka got 21pt, 18rb with 5 blks, held Gasol to 25% shooting
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Boykins was great as well.  22.7 ppg, 9.9 apg, 1.5 topg, 1.6 spg, 59% shooting, 52% 3pt, 1.45 pps.  Held opponent pg's to 39%.

Boykins got 19pt, 10as, 1stl, held Billupss to 41%
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Dalembert held starting C's to 36% while contributing 11.1 rpg and 3.3 bpg.

Samy held Booth to 40% while getting 15rb and 5blks.

So why did i win despite every Nets star getting his top production (other than Earl and Meka shooting below 40%, which still shouldn't be too much of a concern for the Nets)?

Well, apart from Battier and Pettit allowing Lenard and Ginobili to go off on the offensive end, I think Chauncey just wanted it more !
(guess he's still pissed not getting an easy chance for a title now, cause all day you could hear him mumbeling "you NEVER deal an allstar in midseason, you NEVER deal an allstar in midseason, ...")
 :wink:


Title: Re: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: MagicGM on September 26, 2005, 04:57:54 AM
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you guys must have forgotten this. I had a great sim thus far. but my team went down by 2 spots on the standings. yikes.

Now i don't know exactly what you call a great sim, but I sure you definitely DIDN'T have one.

For the Hawks (not meant personal here) 4-5 would be a successful sim, but I admit I expect more from the (former) 4th seed in our Conference ...

 :?:


well, it depends how you would describe a great sim. I say great I won almost a half on my games and Dwight's stats went up.

but I had the word "BUT" in it. meaning however. and was saddened about it.


Title: Re: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on September 26, 2005, 05:12:50 AM
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well, it depends how you would describe a great sim. I say great I won almost a half on my games and Dwight's stats went up.

but I had the word "BUT" in it. meaning however. and was saddened about it.

Winning less then half of my games is a bad sim for me, and I'm #10 in our conference. Now if you said "apart from 3 losses to the powerhouses Sonics and Pacers I did great going 4-2" I would understand it a little better ... but still, you care about Dwight's stats more than winning ?

And reading you initial post you were saddened dropping two spots in the standings DESPITE your great sim *lol*

 :?:


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: CelticsGM on September 26, 2005, 07:56:20 AM
It took him 5 sims but Antonio Lenard finally went from being my #6 scorer to Celtics scoring leader. His production returned to 20+ppg again with Billups providing the assists.

Chauncey with his first triple double for me (in fact my first ever since I took over the Celtics) in a 1pt win over Hornets. His 18/8 this sim were just what the doctor ordered. Pau Gasol had one of his worse sims offensively (14/8, just 31mpg), but his value is more on the other end (as long as it's not TD waiting there).

But the difference maker this time was Manu Ginobili, exploding for 14ppg (twice leading scorer), 6rpg, 4apg on 50% shooting while holding the not too shabby opposition (Marion, Petitt, Iverson, RLewis, AMiller, Wade, Arenas, Q, Allen) down to 42%.


Interesting fact: Celtics last 6 losses were blowouts (10pt or more) and 8 of the last 11 wins were blowouts. At least I win the close games ...
 8)


Title: Sim 9 Discussion
Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 26, 2005, 09:31:04 AM
Likely a first for the Warriors... Day 88 against the Wolves, had 6 players score 16 points or more...