Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CelticsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:21:45 PM Nets trade
PG Chauncey Billups PF AJ Dial PF Malik Christie + Nets 1st 2010 + Nets 1st 2011 Celtics trade PG Bailey Snow FC Darko Milicic SG Shawn Geiger + Sixers 1st 2011 that's it ... Title: Re: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:23:41 PM Quote from: CelticsGM Nets trade PG Chauncey Billups PF AJ Dial PF Malik Christie + Nets 1st 2010 + Nets 1st 2011 Celtics trade PG Bailey Snow FC Darko Milicic SG Shawn Geiger + Sixers 1st 2011 that's it ... agreed. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:25:59 PM reasoning:
well, I had a few other deals on the table, but all involved other starters moving. And with the way I've been winning, I don't want to mess with that. So I got a bit younger and a bit more depth. Darko is an A- defender at C, PF and SF. That versatility will be nice. Lo drops to a B+ defensively at PF, and my other PF (dial) was a B-. Also got a little younger at the pg spot, which was the only position i was really old in. Then I traded some of my picks (which hopefully are almost worthless) for a pick that while probably won't be good, should hopefully be better. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: HawksGM on September 20, 2005, 06:26:27 PM interesting deal, not sure who I like it more for. Nets probably looking past the Boykins days and getting a young guy for when Boykings expires. For the Celtics they get a guy in Chauncey Billups who was a great starting PG for the Nets. Time will tell who this one favors IMO.
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:30:23 PM btw, this is NOT why the sim was late. this deal didn't delay the sim. it did delay my dinner though :?
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: HawksGM on September 20, 2005, 06:33:06 PM Quote from: NetsGM btw, this is NOT why the sim was late. this deal didn't delay the sim. it did delay my dinner though :? go eat my friend :lol: , remember carbs aren't as bad as everyone says they are!!! Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: HornetsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:37:22 PM I am not sure that I like this for the Celts, but I'm pretty sure that they'll get better in the short term at least. They have a pretty good starting 5 now, but they're not close to the better teams out there.
I like the trade for the Nets. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CelticsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:42:15 PM Celtics did this because:
I needed a third scoring option after Pau and Lenard. Chauncey was a 19ppg PG only last year I didn't want to keep two similar young PGs (three with Nat) and neither Watson nor Miller was starter material. #6 pick Snow has a nice future ahead but Rocky gave me more on both ends this year. Darko I will miss. Getting 7 blocks on TD isn't too common around here. And at age 22 he's got all the time ahead of him. He was the price to pay. The picks are a wash. Sure, if the Sixers move TD for 12 first rounders in 2012 I look pretty bad (Safe guess: they won't because they'd be the laughingstock of whole Manila next season). Otherwise I dealt pick #22 for two #29 picks. And we all know meanwhile what you get past #10 ... Guess that's it for this year, folks. 6 deals and my starting lineup went from Curry-Jefferson-Vlad-Van Exel-Elliott (age 22.4) to Booth-Gasol-Lenard-Ginobili-Billups (age 28.4). I like it :lol: Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CelticsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:45:15 PM Quote from: CelticsGM ... 6 deals and my starting lineup went from Curry-Jefferson-Vlad-Van Exel-Elliott (age 22.4) to Booth-Gasol-Lenard-Ginobili-Billups (age 28.4). Not to forget: Al Jefferson, Nat Van Exel, Rocky Elliott, Tower and Duncan (no, not that one) are STILL here too. :lol: Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CelticsGM on September 20, 2005, 06:48:01 PM And in the end this deal comes down to this:
A young backup PG + a project backup forward for a top 10 starting PG (at least till Rocky or Nat are ready). Not too much risk here ... :wink: Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 20, 2005, 08:39:05 PM Quote from: HawksGM Quote from: NetsGM btw, this is NOT why the sim was late. this deal didn't delay the sim. it did delay my dinner though :? go eat my friend :lol: , remember carbs aren't as bad as everyone says they are!!! oh, don't worry. I couldn't go on a diet (I can keep myself from eating poorly, but I can't cut things out like that). If basketball and lifting don't keep me in shape, then I don't want to keep in shape, heh. I can't eat cardboard my whole life. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: HawksGM on September 20, 2005, 08:44:52 PM Quote from: NetsGM oh, don't worry. I couldn't go on a diet (I can keep myself from eating poorly, but I can't cut things out like that). If basketball and lifting don't keep me in shape, then I don't want to keep in shape, heh. I can't eat cardboard my whole life. lol, I have to eat well for class (Exercise Physiology major), and not every single thing tastes like cardboard :wink: Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 20, 2005, 08:45:43 PM Surprised some people think I got the better end of this. I thought I definitely gave up more talent than I got back. Chauncey can still score 20/game and give 9 assists. There's no way I replace that. Amd going to a team with one of the worst starting pg rotations in the league, that's huge.
Chauncey just didn't make sense here at 10 mpg. I even tried moving him to sg and such, couldn't get him more time. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: RaptorsGM on September 20, 2005, 08:46:06 PM I'm tryng to eat better, I'm starting to pack on a few pounds (191 lbs at 5'10)
I'm not fat yet, but if I keep it up, I could be. I just don't get enough exercise, but that should change with intermurals. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: RaptorsGM on September 20, 2005, 08:46:48 PM Quote from: NetsGM Surprised some people think I got the better end of this. I thought I definitely gave up more talent than I got back. Chauncey can still score 20/game and give 9 assists. There's no way I replace that. Amd going to a team with one of the worst starting pg rotations in the league, that's huge. Chauncey just didn't make sense here at 10 mpg. I even tried moving him to sg and such, couldn't get him more time. I don't think you get the better end. I like it for the C's. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: HawksGM on September 20, 2005, 08:48:10 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM I'm tryng to eat better, I'm starting to pack on a few pounds (191 lbs at 5'10) I'm not fat yet, but if I keep it up, I could be. I just don't get enough exercise, but that should change with intermurals. instead of eating potato chips and shit like that, eat almonds and water, fills u up quick and is packed with protein. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 20, 2005, 08:49:28 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM I'm tryng to eat better, I'm starting to pack on a few pounds (191 lbs at 5'10) I'm not fat yet, but if I keep it up, I could be. I just don't get enough exercise, but that should change with intermurals. I'm 6'1", 195 lbs. That's about what I was 5 years ago. It's not proportioned quite as good as it used to be ( ;) ), but I'm still in "good" shape. That 195 lbs used to be at 8-9% body fat. I'm guessing that's risen a bit from my playing days, but stilll good. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: RaptorsGM on September 20, 2005, 08:49:40 PM Quote from: HawksGM Quote from: RaptorsGM I'm tryng to eat better, I'm starting to pack on a few pounds (191 lbs at 5'10) I'm not fat yet, but if I keep it up, I could be. I just don't get enough exercise, but that should change with intermurals. instead of eating potato chips and shit like that, eat almonds and water, fills u up quick and is packed with protein. I don't eat potato chips and the like, I just have a big appetite. I'll eat supper twice (one at 530-6 and again at 10 or so). Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: HawksGM on September 20, 2005, 08:53:21 PM yea, you guys are probably in decent shape, except I'm willing to bet bods has some misalignments like all you IT people have, but I'm 6'3 180 w/only 6% body fat now, but it fluctuates depending on how motivated I am.
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 20, 2005, 08:55:09 PM Hahaha.
I haven't been in IT long enough for that. I played sports competitively for 20 years of my life hardcore, have only been using computers really for 5. Give it time to catch up ;) Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: HawksGM on September 20, 2005, 08:58:14 PM Quote from: NetsGM Hahaha. I haven't been in IT long enough for that. I played sports competitively for 20 years of my life hardcore, have only been using computers really for 5. Give it time to catch up ;) lol, well yea give it another year or 2 and you will have upper crossed and lower crossed syndrome (which I had but recently fixed from playing competitive sports). Damn gravity, my major hates it but we know it's needed Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: JazzGM-old on September 20, 2005, 09:27:26 PM Quote from: HawksGM Quote from: NetsGM btw, this is NOT why the sim was late. this deal didn't delay the sim. it did delay my dinner though :? go eat my friend :lol: , remember carbs aren't as bad as everyone says they are!!! we Americans sure love fads though, too lazy and stupid to eat better, although i'm currently working on a presentation dealing with the macro societal/governmental structures involved in why our nutrition sucks, beyond simply saying its a lack of individual motivation/ability (all and all it's just a governmental copout from taking responsibility to restructure our corporate economy)..... sorry figured since everyone else was talking bout their schoolwork....anyway Go Jazz! Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: JazzGM-old on September 20, 2005, 09:30:03 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM I'm tryng to eat better, I'm starting to pack on a few pounds (191 lbs at 5'10) I'm not fat yet, but if I keep it up, I could be. I just don't get enough exercise, but that should change with intermurals. I'm a scrawny 192 at 6'5", I used to be 210-215 when I was playing ball though, blame Appendicitis and Mononucleosis for the difference. I was 195 and started lifting and eating a lot more...I lost 3 lbs to 192, go figure Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CavsGM on September 20, 2005, 09:33:59 PM --->5'9", 135<---
8) Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: KingsGM-old on September 21, 2005, 08:24:53 AM 6'6 and 168 lbs (76 kilograms here). Although i'm 26 all the people are saying that i'm getting taller and taller, so i think i'm still growing.
Eating only once a day for almost 10 years now (i'm just not ineterested in food, or too lazy to spend time on food, don't know wich one). Yet, i haven't been sick since elementary school. Lifting? Never in my whole life. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CelticsGM on September 21, 2005, 08:27:45 AM Now can you all get the hell out of my trade thread ?
Go fooling around with your weight problems in the "other topics" or "who cares" forum section. I was expecting insight on the deal, not some discussion on anorexia ... :twisted: Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CelticsGM on September 21, 2005, 08:32:09 AM Quote from: KingsGM 6'6 and 168 lbs (76 kilograms here). Although i'm 26 all the people are saying that i'm getting taller and taller, so i think i'm still growing. Eating only once a day for almost 10 years now (i'm just not ineterested in food, or too lazy to spend time on food, don't know wich one). Yet, i haven't been sick since elementary school. Lifting? Never in my whole life. Now you, Ivan, even you "rap" my thread, damn, I give up. During my active career I was around 195 lbs and always dreamed of my ideal "fight weight" of 210 lbs. I'm a massive 6'1" 232 lbs now !!! I wonder why I can still stuff a Volleyball on a regular rim ... but I know my knees don't like it too much ... Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: KingsGM-old on September 21, 2005, 08:35:46 AM Quote from: CelticsGM Now can you all get the hell out of my trade thread ? Go fooling around with your weight problems in the "other topics" or "who cares" forum section. I was expecting insight on the deal, not some discussion on anorexia ... :twisted: Well, it's not our fault that weight problems are more interesting then your team. :lol: Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: MagicGM on September 21, 2005, 08:53:02 AM I'm a short fat freckled red hair with think glasses and braces..if anybody cares..
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 21, 2005, 08:54:27 AM Actually, congrats to the Celtics. You found the only way to stop the Nets... Mess up their team chemistry.
Celtics go 4-3 after the trade, Nets go 1-3... Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: MagicGM on September 21, 2005, 08:54:55 AM whoops.. I mean thick glasses with my 2 front teeth standing among the rest :roll:
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: KingsGM-old on September 21, 2005, 08:55:13 AM Oh, so you're a nerd! :wink: :)
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: MagicGM on September 21, 2005, 09:06:37 AM am I? :? thats harsh
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: KingsGM-old on September 21, 2005, 09:13:21 AM Haha, sorry man. Just joking. Nothing serious. :D
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: CelticsGM on September 21, 2005, 09:37:07 AM Quote from: KingsGM Haha, sorry man. Just joking. Nothing serious. :D Call it "croatian humor". It differs from the rest of the world's in some minor aspects like humility, respect and the general concept of politeness. :roll: Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: KingsGM-old on September 21, 2005, 09:54:50 AM Quote from: CelticsGM Quote from: KingsGM Haha, sorry man. Just joking. Nothing serious. :D Call it "croatian humor". It differs from the rest of the world's in some minor aspects like humility, respect and the general concept of politeness. :roll: Haha, no. Not at all. Just my neighbourhood. Sorry once again. Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: NetsGM on September 21, 2005, 09:55:23 AM That actually sounds a lot like philadelphian humor :D
Title: It's Nets, Celtics & the dark snow Bill Post by: KingsGM-old on September 21, 2005, 09:56:09 AM Quote from: KingsGM Quote from: CelticsGM Quote from: KingsGM Haha, sorry man. Just joking. Nothing serious. :D Call it "croatian humor". It differs from the rest of the world's in some minor aspects like humility, respect and the general concept of politeness. :roll: Haha, no. Not at all. Just my neighbourhood (it can't get any sicker). Sorry once again. |