SSBA

Linked on the lefthand side under offseason.

http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/draft/2011/

Texas has a nice junior SF that's underperforming now but has incredible ratings and has already declared for the draft.

I'm going to be watching the growth of Jerry Riedel (http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/draft/2011/players/player1004.htm)

And look at the fellow orangemen small forward (http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/draft/2011/players/player997.htm).  What an odd combination of scoring and incredible rebounding from a sf.  too bad he can't defend a lick.

Could this guy (http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/draft/2011/players/player3171.htm) be one of the next great scorers?

For the high school kids, we don't get any ratings or potentials?  Just their high-school stats?

Also, check out this Blue Devil (http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/draft/2011/players/player3826.htm)...1.9 points per shot.   :shock:

You don't get ratings until they're imported into fbb at the beginning of next season.

So the high school players are much more of a crapshoot in terms of scouting via FBCB than college players, I take it?

Yeah, he looks good.  Definitely more of a scoring pg though, with a C+ passing.  Still, doesn't turn the ball over, and he actually picked up his performance when playing ranked competition.

Do worry about how that outside shot will translate into the pro's, especially since it says he's already overachieving.

*NOTE* Potentials there are slightly different than FBB potentials.  Those potentials listed are how good a player is likely to become, not how much more he can improve.  So a guy who's currently a C+ 3pt shooter with C potential is actually already overachieving and is likely not going to improve anymore.

Looks like it.

Although you'll still have the same FBB rated attributes once we get to next season.

This is pretty fun, I must say.  I still don't know exactly how much use it's going to be until the FBCB season is complete, but it's neat to be able to explore the vast repository of all the players.

So when does the FBCB sim begin?   :lol:

Best name has to go to Maximo Steed.

All of these ratings confuse and disorient me  :(
Is there any way to see the file broken down into the normal categories?

There is just TOO much work to be done for an FBCB sim, heck no.

In fact, next year I might split it into 2 or 3 FBCB "sims" rather than 6.

This will definetely kill time at school or when I'm bored

Quick question: why not just scrap the draft preview that currently exists (FBB-generated) and instead use the FBCB-generated draft class?

Since it's so early in the season, I doubt that any trades were done based on the draft preview that currently exists.  As we've discussed, it's not a great one by any means, so there doesn't appear to be any reason not to switch now, especially since you already have the sim up and running.

I just don't like changing something after it's already been put up.  Raptors may be counting on getting one of x players with his pick.  Dunno, I just don't like to do it.

I figured as much, and that's fine.  But just thought I'd throw it out there.

Actually, I'd love the idea..but I understand where yu are coming from.

I'd love to be able to track a guy the whole year.

Gonna eed someone to explain the shortforms for me.

Question:

Is this going to take over for the entirety of the sim from now on?

I love the fact that there are much more players and you actually have to scout for the next big thing!

err, will they be in a draft preview next year?

These are the players for the 2011 draft.  At the beginning of next season (the 2010 season), they will be converted into the draft preview we've been using in the past (except will now have college stats filled in).

If you want, you can completely ignore this section.  you won't be as informed come draft time, but you can.

can we control some of the teams? :D

No, that would take me far too long.

But, if I understand correctly, there is no guarantee that some player that you follow all season will end up in the actual FBB draft?  Is this correct?

So if I want to wait until you actually import the draft class into FBB then the college ratings will no longer be available.  Only the college stats.  Is this correct?

I will keep a copy of the college stats online so you can go more in depth at draft time.

And no, there is no guarantee a player will be in the draft.  Any underclassmen who declares early (high school and college) will definitely be in the draft.  Seniors it is a bit of a question mark.  I wouldn't scout non-major college players too heavily until the official list comes out.  That center for Iona probably won't make it.

What do you mean by shortforms?  Abbreviations?

http://www.fbbgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3776

Thanks, thats exactly ehat I maeant.

thatrs whst i thaughwt yuot ment

Suddup.

tHIS'S AINT EASY. I hate this fucking caps lock button right beside the A key too.

Alright guys, here's the deal.

I would REALLY prefer to have boxscores up on the NCAA draft previews.  However, this takes up space.  A lot.  Boxscores alone take up 100 mb's of space, with the entire draft taking up over 200 mb's.

Since we will be having 2 years worth of drafts up at all times after this year (for the current preview and 2 years previews), that would mean 400 mb's of storage space on my server, + the space required for the rest of SSBA, + space required for phillyarena.

I can't afford to use up a gig of space on my server for this project.

But I REALLY want boxscores.  If I'm looking at a prospect, i want to see how he did against other good schools and other top prospects.  I think it adds that much more to the scouting.

So...here's what I want to do.  Run the college sim in 3 sims (November/December after sim 2, January/February after sim 4, March/April after sim 6).  This would then give you 4 sims until the trade deadline where you'll know the exact eligible players.  More than enough time to make decisions on whether to trade or keep a draft pick, and more than enough time to scout.

I don't think that's an issue at all.

What might be an issue is whether or not you're willing to blow up the current draft preview.  IIRC, no top picks have been traded since sim training camp (when the draft preview was put up).  However, if someone has a real problem with me doing away with what's currently listed as the draft preview, I will withhold using the college drafting portion until next SSBA year.

So, if you have a problem, speak up.

No problems here...  This next draft for both the college version and the regular version both look pretty strong, imo.

Depending upon how some of the college talents translate into the pro game...  that is a new and interesting twist.

I know I doubt very much I will be using the box scores...

So if I understand you correctly....

What you currently list as 2010 preview will be deleted.

The 2011 preview will replace the 2010 one when it is completed after sim 6.

In the future the draft preview will always be available after sim 6.

This allows for us to "drill down" and see what draft prospects actually did in college by ratings as well as boxscores.

If this is the correct interpretation then I'm ok with it.  I don't spend a lot of time analysing the draft until the last half of the season anyway.

Barring a disaster (cross your fingers with pierce lol), you shouldn't have a top pick.

I'm more worried about the guys at the top of the draft.

That is correct.

and before sim 6 you could still follow the college progression, just without knowing exactly which guys have declared and will be in the draft.

Lol...  Hinrich or Araujo season ending injury = no playoffs for me... lol

The box scores would come in handy when a tough decsion is at hand between two players.
Hey, I actually have a pick this year.  Having the more detailed scouting report on the players (abilites broke out) is very handy when you are looking for role players.
Possibly more important then when you are lookgin at the top 5.

So, the potential is the players potential at that spot for the year?  I assume those can change from year to year?

Actually, the potential for each attribute is the best a player can perform, not how much he can improve.  

So if a guy has more potential than his current rating is, he has room for improvement.  If he's an old guy with a good coach and still isn't improving, it might be a concern that he's an underachiever.  If he's a young guy with room for improvement, he just may need time.  If he's overachieving, it could be becuase of a good coach, and he's not likely to improve that area of his game much more.

Let's look at Charles Treat (http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/draft/2011/players/player301.htm), a Washington Huskie.  His passing is already an A+, yet his potential is an A.  Since he obviously can't improve anymore than an A+, does the individual category potential also indicate maintaining current levels?  What I mean is, besides being an indicator of improvement, does the potential also indicate that a player will maintain his level of performance for the near future?

All potential shows is the max his ability to perform that task is.  If current production is higher than his ability, than he's overachieving.  I'd guess the likelihood of him maintaining the ability would be little, since it's hard to continually overachieve.

http://www.fbbgames.com/forum/

Might be a good resource for some, since this is the first time I've used the program as well and it's the only way I have to learn.

Yeah, but potentials don't have plus or minuses to them, so how can you know that the A+ means he's overachieving?  Similarly, if a guy has an A- rating with an A potential, by what you wrote, he'd be underachieving.

I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it fully answers my question.

We can all tell that a guy with a C+ rating and a B potential is most likely going to improve; similarly, a guy with a B+ rating and D potential is going to see a drop in production.  

I'll check out that forum to see if it explains this any more, so I don't have to keep bugging you with questions.

Ah, gotcha.  I wasn't even thinking of potentials not having a +.

I don't know if potential has any indication on whether he will maintain that level.

From what I've seen there's one player who is far and away my favorite.  Take a look at the Stanford Cardinal SG Clint Brooks , he appears to be a beast

He certainly looks like an offensive beast.

How is a C perimeter defense (PRD) going to translate to the pro's, though?  Can he be anything more than a Glenn Robinson (real life)?

I dont understand what you guys are talking about.

Is the 2010 draft preview being replaced?

That is what it looks like...  The drafts will now be improted from the FBCB program and the current 2010 draft will be replaced...

I'm asking if anyone would object to me replacing the 2010 draft with an fbcb replaced one, yes.

Not me. It'll be fun.

yea, he's a defenisve sieve but his offense appears to be great.  I would probably see him going from in the mid-late lottery if he enters the draft.  There's still a lot of guys I need to look at too.

A guy from Cal I like German Marshall is hurt for 29 days which hurts because I was looking at tracking him because his ratings are good.  Do I think that he isn't durable or was it a freak injury?  That's the fun part of this, we have to determine what we like and don't like about a player with a lot of resources to determine it.

I wonder if Marshall's injure will affect his draft stock.

Yeah.  We really have no stats to go on from him, only ratings (since he got hurt the first day).  But after tonight he should be back in the lineup.

But the combination of scoring (although probably not a great scorer in the pro's), ballhandling and defense (B post defense?  from a 5'11" guard?) make him intriguing.

Erm...you guys aren't going to believe this....

I accidentally deleted the FBCB save file (FBCB stores it with the league data whereas FBB stores it in a saves folder, i thought that was the output data RE: html, so I deleted it....)

*/me ducks*

I'm gonna have to start the draft over again....

sorry.  I wasted time on that as well.

Don't matter to me, i hadn't looked at it yet.

I probably wasted a good 2 hours looking at it....

Well now who's fault is that ;)

But seriously, that does suck for yu and all the other giuys.