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My favorite part of the season (says the one whos never made the playoffs  :lol:)

Bods, when will you run it?

I strongly agree with that, I will be last again w/o a good TC, with a good TC I might be able to sneak out of last place.

I think most GMs consider this to be the best part. I know I'm excited for it. Let's see Keogan improve offensively... :D

I hope for improvement from Evan Lo in Def,Reb

Hav in inside scoring

Stockton in Def, and Inside scoring

Hoiberg in inside scoring.

that is all

definately the best part of the season next to the postseason

I expect NOTHING at all. My last two TCs were a huge disappointment (as opposite to the actual play following the TCs which was much improved) so I don't have big hope for big changes.

IF the guys continue their improvement on the hardwood I couldn't care less about ratings (which are for trade purposes only) anyway ...

definately the most awfull part of the season for me. i just wish everyone stays the same....but i know they won't :|

http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/2009tc/

That's it. I'm going to sleep. I'll look the TC tommorow cause I don't want to ruin my night. Goodnight.

Lol, look at the Cavs

first of all, vince is a shooting guard with B+ handles

And look at Chamberlain  :shock: up to A+ handles and B defense (from C+).

Steal of FA.

Jesus, Mcgrady 's gonna have 50ppg!!! :D

Well fuck! Biedrens is no longer the star he looked like he was becoming. He went down in potential from A to B. Parker declined and Roberts didnt do anything.

The only good things are that Williams improved and so did Mike James.

Lol? Well, mixed emotions for me. Fletcher goes down 3 ratings, Holton and Keogan stay the same. Vince is looking nice, though, with those amazing handles. Ward also goes down two, which sucks. And my two 2nd rounders, Wooden, and Nesterovich, explode. But I have no rights to them after the year, so that sucks. Chamberlain did blow up, with a total +4. That's really the only big plus I see in this TC.

not too great of a TC.  Jameer got worse in D, Finley didn't get any better, Ivan didn't do anything, JDN got better defense but worse outside, but the positive was Mathew Marion who improved a point at outside and defense and Trenton Dench is now and A+ defender w/C+ handles and his potential went up.  Another positive is almost everyone stayed the same potential

Ivan did improve one offensive category.

nah, he was a B B- last season

hm...you're right

I have a jam now in the backcourt. Chamberlain is sure gonna start, with his explosion now in training camp, but I have 3 guys that are all deserving of being the 1st guard off of the bench. Wooden, Ward, and Barbosa.

Wow, what a TC. Finally my hopes came true. More analysis to follow ...

And I feel really sorry for the Grizz's. I've never seen a worse TC before:  :cry:
7 guys losing defense, 5 total offensive ratings lost, 2 in rebounds. All that categories with NO GAIN at all.
Only improvements: 5 guys in handles ...
 :cry:

ROCKY ELLIOTT !!!

The man I wanted to rename to Balboa.
Listen

Outside +1
Handles +2
and: Defense: +3 !!!!!


UNBELIEVABLE  :lol:


Did I mention before that Mr. Elliott didn#t play a single minute for me last season ?

Got all I wanted out of the TC.  Garnett stayed the same, Gattling increased in three categories.  Can't complain much.

He's looking very Jameer Nelson'esque.

Oh-oh, the guy I ripped just an hour ago in the Hawks trade thread ...
Lesson learned: always be careful what you post !  :wink:

Well, not the greatest training camp ever...
Rafael dropped one in handle...
Stromile stayed the same
Pierce stayed the same (thank goodness)
Iggy improved his handle (was really hoping for defense), and dropped potential
Hinrich gained one in handling... C A A A- C-...  impressive.
Other rotation players
Ruffin gained one in rebounding and one in defense.  Now by back-up PF.
Foyle lost a rebounding...
Kareem Longley had no change, but got his B potential back.

Emeka with +3, handles, defense and rebounding.  Now one of 3 players in hte league with A rebounding, and only one with A or better in defense and rebounding.  Didn't get worse in anything.  After a "blah" last tc, this one was much better.

Trenton Lo dropped one in defense right after I gave him a 6 year deal.  Guess we know what he played for :(

Marc Jackson with -2 (handles and rebounding).  Luckily he was only signed for an expiring.  Aaron Williams also dropped a defense, but he's just tradebait as well.

Dalembert stayed the same but dropped a potential.

Salmons with +1 (outside).  Turkoglu went up in outside and defense, down 1 in handles and down one in potential.

Pettit went back up to a B in inside (where he was before last tc).  

DA was a worthless signing, it appears.  -3 total.  -1 outside, -1 defense, -1 rebounding.

Boykins with a very good TC.  +1 out, +1 defense, +1 rebounding.  Chauncey -1 rebounding.  MacLean -1 Outside.

Stro actually lost in defense to A- ... which is a surprise
And Iggy NOT gaining defense is a pity ...

I had Nash/Ferry lose defense, Kobe lose scoring and no improvement except Calinoff.  

Meanwhile, Stan Manning dropped defense and basically turned into Shareef Abdur Rahim.  

Yao lost offense and gained defense.

Your right, missed that.  Well, I had a bad training camp, then...

Well, not the greatest TC for the Knicks but not a horrible one either. The guys that I was hoping to increase (Wells & Miles) didn't really improve. Wells didn't improve at all and Miles only went from a C- to a C in inside scoring and from D- to D.

The Good

Holy Eric Fleisher! My minimum C signing went from a C+ to B in defense, from C+ to B- in inside scoring & Rebounding and from D- to D in handles. That's a total of +5 ratings change!

Richard Ahye went from B to B+ in outside scoring, from C- to C in handles and from D to D+ in rebounding. His defense still stinks but he has the chance to be a great scorer in the future.

Dorrell Wright improved from C to C+ in outside scoring

Miles improved in the two categories listed above.

Caron Butler improved from B+ to A- in defense

The Bad

Francis regressed in outside from B to B-

Sweetney's D went from B to B-

Nazr's D went from A- to B+

Crawford's potential went from B to D (but we all know that scouted potential means almost nothing).

ok, now to the Celtics surprisingly great TC:

as I said, Rocky Elliott was the biggest surprise, but more was to follow:

- 4 guys winning defense (Curry, Jefferson), only Kaman losing some
- Curry, Jefferson, Lenard, Van Exel and Snow winning offense
- Kaman improving in rebounding

Which makes Curry (+2), Jefferson (+3) and Elliott (+6) the big winners
And only Geiger (-1) and Kaman (-1/+1) kind of losers

Other notables: Darko and Vlad staying the same  :D , Dre losing some handles (now more suiting his TO number) but keeping A def, starters Snow and Van Exel keeping def and handles.


All in all the best TC ever in my GM career !   :lol:

Dirk improved to A- A- offensively and retained A defense.

english went up in handles and defense.  C A A+ B+.

Peja didn't go down.  Great TC by sonics.

Deng went to a B- A- offense  :shock:

Marion's improvement gave me some hope as I'm banking on him becoming a Trent Kundla type guy who will give me some much needed defense and a little offensive boost.  Dench being A+ defense is exciting, if Jameer gets hurt that means I have a guy who can at least defend against all these great pg's in the league.

And for those of you that didn't know, Mikel Chamberlain was a 2nd round pick. Now from that draft, who would you prefer...Lorenzo Ellis, the 6th pick, or Chamberlain, the 42nd pick... 8)

Devin Harris is really good, B- A- B+ A-, once he gets some time he's gonna be tough

Decent TC for me

Podkolzine: +1 handling, +1 defense
Swift: +1 inside (-1 outside), +1 handling, +1 rebounding
Odom: +1 rebounding
Livingston: +1 handling
Sura: +2 outside, +2 handling, +1 defense
Marion: same

Looks like I'm gonna have a pretty good season. Lookin forward to it.

Wow, talk about bad TC's for alot of the rookies

Jeremy Palacio ended up being one of the better rookies in the draft, he was a steal at 11.  He's now B+, B-, B with B potential

Mercer improved his rebounding to C-

Traylor went up 1 in defense and rebounding, he's now B+, B+

Keefe went from C to B potential which is huge because he already has great ratings (very similar to Nick Abdur Rahim)

Corey Hoiberg went up 1 in inside offense and handles.  He's now C+, B, C+, B-

Some dissapointments were Griffin going down to B defense and Hinkle not improving.  Overall not a bad TC, I was really hoping Hinkle and Griffin would improve though

OK, whats up...

The Heat definetely know something we don't

EDIT:  I'm not accusing you of cheating, but you definetely knew Juan Ward and Ricardo Tsakalidis were going to EXPLODE before hand

Wow...  At this point. the Sonics may be the best team in the league...  Dirk at A- A- as a Pf...  that is unguardable...  especially with an A+ handling pg to toss him the ball.

Am I the only one who thinks Juan Ward and Ricardo still stink?

How do they still stink?  They're not superstars but they're great signings.  Ward has C+, B+, C+, C+ with A potential.  If the potential holds up he could be a serious player

And if not....he stinks.  a C+ B+ C+ C+ stinks.  Is it closer to being solid?  Yes.  But he still stinks.

You can do the whole 'what if' bit with every draft pick.  Look how Stan Manning, Russel Houbergs and Justin Bass (just to name a few ) did after TC.  Fact is, he has A potential, it doesn't always pull through but it makes him valuable.  He would be a high lotto pick with those ratings

It's a shame that Wooden will see no playing time, most likely. With those ratings he could be a great 3rd guard for almost any team, but probably won't get a chance to on the Cavs..

Man, this University life is crazy. I finally get a minute to myself at 1115. Chist sakes.


Now, about my TC. Finally had an average one.

Yao - Ouch. While hedid improve to A+ defense, he dropped in both inside and outside shooting. I see his scoring dropping prett signifcnantly this season.

Wright - dropped a defense. No biggie.

Alston - had a pretty useless TC. Just gaied 1 outside shot.

Rasho - See wright. Both are just expiring contracts, so no biggie.

Finley - HOLY ISH!! Dude is a B outisde shot as a PF, with A potental. He is also a B in rebouding, which is an odd cmbination of skils.

Austin - See wright and rasho.

Deng - WOW. Plus 2 in outside offence, AND stays a B potential. H'll be a very legit replacement for Peja, with muchos better defense.

Diddle - gained a handle, which makes him a great option to have at SF.

Mckie - lost an outside shot - oh well.

Pery - stayed the same, yeah, he'll probably be moved.

Springs- major disapointment. Stayed the same after such an amazing TC last year.

Buckner - lost an outside shot and a defense.

Baron - another sub par TC for him. Lost a handle (just what he needed ;) ) and a reboundng.

Lovelette - improves his offense, but I was hoping to see an increase in handles BEFORe he dropped a potential.

Shenck - Gains a handle and a defense.


So, in conclusion, the MVP gets worse offensivly but better defensivly, my starting PF has a big gain, my starting SF has a big gain, my starting SG gains and my starting P loses a bit. Oh and all my role players drop.

Overall, hey, after the TC's that I've had, Ill take it.

Taking a quick look at te Spurs' starters..

Thomas did nothing. Mihm did nothing. Russel improved a defense. Arenas did nothing. Parker gained an outside.


I like that pick.

BTW, forgve the spelling, i'm only learning at this whole laptop thing.

Are you on campus trev?

you know it. first day at laurier

I personally can't tell if i hada good TC or not because I'm new but heres a summary.

Diop - +1 outside, +1 potential
Maggette - +1 inside, -1 handles, +2 def, -1 pot
Voskuhl - -1 outside, -1 handles
Fortson - +1 inside
Sheed - -1 pot
Prince - +1 outside, -1 pot
Bass - -1 def, -1 pot
AI - +1 outside
Giricek - -1 inside
Brown - +1 handles, +1 rebounding, -1 pot
Thurmond - +1 outside, +1 handles, -1 handles
Davies - +1 handles, +1 def
Embry - -1 pot

Dirk is going to be MVP.  No doubt.  Only McGrady comes close, and he doesn't have a guy like English dishing the ball to him on every play.

Peja and Camby stayed put...exactly what I wanted.  

Dickau, off the bench, improved to B- handles while keeping his tremendous scoring touch.

English, by the way, is now A outside, A+ handles and B+ defense.  Oh yeah, he still has B potential.

Go Sonics!

a solid not great TC
Artest lost handling and rebound but i expected that because he played at PG/SG last year
Carmelo gained one in inside and kept his pot.
JO gained 1 outside, 1rebounding and 1 pot a top 5 pf gaining so much is nuts
RJ and Borchardt gained 1 in def

So my starting 5 is now a solid A,A-,A,A,A- with RJ backing up at A- def

interesting how my players improved mostly on D too..

Quentin brand was B pretc, and improve to B+.
I was hoping for Al Roseau's development since he improved from C+ to B+ on defense on last year's TC. Fortunately, though he didn't improved, my lone draftee- Rile Beckman, improved from C+ to B+ on defense. not to mention that his rebound did improve too.

Ray Allen and Mobley improved on their d, from C+ to B- and B- to B, respectively.

Dwight's rebounding also went up.

Loren's defense as a PF also went up from B to B+.

Kidd's handle went down though.

Training camp was not so great for the Rockets

Abdur-Rahim lost a lil inside scoring in his first training camp.

Boozer gained some rebounding, lost a lil defense.

Udonis Haslem lost inside and rebounding, put him down to B- in both! Was hoping for some improvement from the 27 year old.

Jarvis Hayes added some outside game and looks to be a good role player now.

Mike Finley improved his handles!

Frank Hyatt got some defense, now C+

Hunter Summitt now has B for both scoring ratings.

Lorenzo Ellis lost some defense.

Up and down kinda camp, nothing horrible nothing amazing. I have over $60million in expiring this season so hopefully the rebuilding can be complete by next year...

The Jazz improved again on top of an upgraded roster with the addition of Joe Smith.

Booth went down -1 in defense but should still give solid shotblocking and his loss is balanced by two things: Joe Smith's B+ defense next to him (as opposed to Murphy's B) and Tony Curran upgraded +1 defense, +1 inside, -1outside which makes him A- at C and an A at PF.

Smith went -1 inside and -1 handles but is still an improvement over Murphy

Kirilenko went -1 in handles

Molina went +1 defense, -1 outside

Beardslee went down.

Hughes went +1 inside +1outside and he was alright scoring 21 a game.
Shabinger went +2 defensively which was exactly what i wanted as i wanted him to improve his handles or his defense and not his offensive production.

Meyers improved his handling which makes him more valuable for his minutes, if he isn't taking enough shots, at least i know he's passing the ball around or not turning it over as much.

Daniels went -1 in handles, but he's back at the same ratings I won my first championship with so it's okay.

All and all I have a lineup where I can have defensive numbers of A-, A, A+, A-, A- with Molina's A- defense, Smith's B+ defense helping to further anchor the inside off the bench. I have rebounding, shooting, DEFENSE, and ball control once again. Most of my inside scoring will be off the bench, but Booth's minutes will go downa nd Curran will get starter's minutes backing up both the 4 and 5....that also gives murphy and my rookie dickerson (B+ def) some minutes to see what he can do.

Let's just hope I got better enough in the areas that will fend off how good other teams got. Lot's of scoring out there, hope my defense will carry me far once again - led by no other than AK47.

aaargh..i'm still having a hard time swallowing that game 7 lose at home!! :wink:

hey, will there be a GM of the year poll? I might finally get vote or 2!  :)

why?  because mcgrady had a good tc?  what does that have to do with you?

Despite Raptors negative analysis this was the best TC Spurs have had...overall a +6 for the team.

Thomas didn't improve except went from D to C in potential.  But to keep his same ratings was great since he looked good in the 3 sims that he played for us last season: 16.2 pts, 11.2 reb as a non option.

Mihm didn't improve in camp but then just replacing Nesterovic with him was a big improvement.

Russell improved in defense & rebounding...two areas that he needed to work on in the offseason.  And as a extra bonus went from B to A in potential.  C+, B, B-, B, C with A potential and only 23 years old.

Arenas didn't improve but 23.5 pts, 4.6 reb, 3.9 asst, 2 stls will be acceptable from my starting SG.

Parker went up one in outside but his biggest challenge will be holding onto his starting job.

Speedy Claxton was a greeat signing for the MLE.  He went up one in outside and defense.  Now C+, C+, B, A could push him into the starting line up.

If Claxton starts then my starting defense is A, A-, B, A-, A.  And no one in the rotation is over 29 years old.

What are you talking about?

I'm asking why would you be under consideration for GM of the year.

Telfair's handling improved,Eisley's outside and defense,with a potential and 18 year of age,who knows,he could be something,Drew Fox also improved defense and handling,Houbregs def and inside scoring,Randolph rebounds,Cuninngham went down in rebounds,others either went down or didnt improve or lost anything.

He's talking about the fact he was one game away from the finals, and yeah Kings I would consider you for GM of the year based on your playoffs

Hm..sorry, i know i'm not the most populat guy around here but i do think that some of my trades (Marbury, James, Louisseti) and my playoff run where i was 4 point away from the Finals,  are worth couple of votes. You probably think diferent, but i'm fine with that.

And specily after everyone seen me out of the playoffs before the season even began.

Oh, we're talking about GM of the year for last year?  We haven't done that yet?

Damn, we're slow.

Ok, I thought we were talking about future GM of the year based on moves made this offseason.

You have to realize that I only care about this year. Alot of your players gaied potential, which is great for yo, b won't help you his yea.

Huh?  English please.

Read my post above.  I thought we were talking about this offseason, we were just talking about different time periods.

Man. I hate laptops.

What I meant to say was: You have to realize that I only care about this year. Alot of your players gained potential, which is great for you, but won't help you this year.

You literaly have to pound down on these keys to make them work.

LOL.

You get used to it quick.  I can actually type faster on my laptop now than on my desktop.

The freakin keys are so close together too. I sometimes spell a  letter word with 1 letter because i don't hit the keys hard enough, and sometimes with 12 letters cause i keep hitting 2 key at once.

All I can say is that IMO you will be unpleasantly surprised.

I don't see Dirk as MVP. Sure, he'll put up the scoring numbers, but he doesn't get the boards that other MVP candidates get.

Check out Duncan's stats from last year:
30ppg 13.6rpg 3.1apg 1.6spg 2.7bpg

And here are Dirk's:
24.5 ppg 9.3rpg 3.8apg 1.6spg 1.7bpg

Even if Dirk improves to 30+ ppg, I think the comp will still take Duncan over him.

Yao, Emeka, McGrady, Kidd and Garnett are my guesses for MVP candidates...

We'll see.  I don't think Emeka will score enough to garner MVP consideration.  He didn't improve at all offensively (again).

I think Pettit *might* get consideration, if his scoring increases due to a better ballhandling pg.

But I think the top choices will be Yao, Garnett and TD, again.

If Emeka gets up to 25 ppg (which he could as a 1st or maybe 2nd option), then he would be a viable MVP candidate, when you combine it with his rebounding and defense.  But Yao is still the most likely candidate, especially with his new A+ defense.

We'll have to see. Yao hould get at least as many touches as before, or more, but his scoring has gone down, and a drop of outside scorin means a drop in free throw percentage.

LOL.

RaptorsGM posts just crack me up now.

He only missed 2 letters this time.  It's getting better.

Haha, I know, Iread that agai and it sounded like a recipe.

mine TC was great looking now at others i went 8+ considering all players + and - , Blazers might mess up some teams ambitions this year,but its definitely team of great future,altough they lack depth still

Mavs TC:

Good:
Devin Harris, +1 inside, +1 handling, +1 D
Nolan Keogan, +2 rebs, -1 on handling
Bron, +1 inside
Kirk Snyder, -1 inside, +1 outside, +1 D
Oscar Jeannette, +1 D -1 reb
Terry, +1 D

Bad:
George Boykins, did nothing and lost his A pot :evil:
Evan Eschmeyer, -1 reb
Blake Monroe, a bust from last year draft :x
Luke Jackson, -1 on inside, outside :evil:  :x

I think I have more minus than plus after TC. :bs:

My TC officially SUCKED...  I had 9 positives and 14 NEGATIVES...  Michael Redd dropped of the face of the earth, and Manning was kinda disappointing but mving down 1 in defense shouldn't mean a whole lot...  It just means his B- was really weak...  Doleace moved up in rebounding, and Kim is slowly turning into a better player...  Biasone was another slight disappointment, but Tinsley improved in Defense and I still have 3 viable PG's...  It seems like the best picks I made in the draft were my 2-2nd round picks...  Both of them improved...  Reggie Evans improved in Rebounding(I might just use him for a minute or 2 this season), but once again I have a dissapointing MLE signing in Morris Peterson...  And last but not least, Chris Webber will be pulling a Grant Hill(aka Todd MacCulloch, Jamal Mashburn, Matt Geiger...  Wow the 76ers get some usless players  :(  )  this year unless half my team goes down with injuries like the Bulls...

5-2 bitches! Damn straight...

As for Dirk, I don't know how he still improves with D pot, anyways I wish him luck except playing against Mavs.