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2009    181    Nets    Sign PG Earl Boykins for $64,974,000 over 4 years.
2009    181    Cavs    Sign SG Vince Carter for $114,975,000 over 6 years.
2009    181    Clippers    Sign PG Ben Gordon for $105,393,750 over 7 years.
2009    181    Spurs    Sign PG Speedy Claxton for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Bulls    Sign SG Juan Dixon for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Bucks    Sign SF Donta Smith for $5,400,000 over one year.
2009    181    Nuggets    Sign C Jason Collier for $17,218,165 over 2 years.
2009    181    Pistons    Sign PF Chris Webber for $15,151,515 over one year.
2009    181    Magic    Sign C Greg Ostertag for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Cavs    Sign PG Mikel Chamberlain for $27,846,000 over 4 years.
2009    181    Trailblazers    Sign SF Al Harrington for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Raptors    Sign SG Aaron McKie for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Timberwolves    Sign PG Larry Benoit for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Supersonics    Sign SG Ronald Conradt for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Hornets    Sign PG Raul Lopez for $1,440,000 over one year.
2009    181    Suns    Sign SG Dion Glover for $4,250,000 over 2 years.
2009    181    Trailblazers    Sign PF Theo Ratliff for $11,000,000 over one year.
2009    181    Knicks    Sign C Nazr Mohammed for $7,000,000 over one year.
2009    181    Timberwolves    Sign SF Andrew Sedran for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Suns    Sign SG Fred Hoiberg for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Supersonics    Sign SF Austin Croshere for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Grizzlies    Sign PG Lindsey Hunter for $1,000,000 over one year.
2009    181    Suns    Sign SF Rodney White for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Hornets    Sign C Pavel Podkolzine for $10,950,000 over one year.
2009    181    Hornets    Sign SG Lavar Piatkowski for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Hornets    Sign SF Bradley Bee for $5,400,000 over one year.
2009    181    Nets    Sign C Trenton Lo for $24,000,000 over 6 years.
2009    181    Pistons    Sign SG Morris Peterson for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Kings    Sign C Jerome Moiso for $5,400,000 over one year.
2009    181    Knicks    Sign SF Caron Butler for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Mavericks    Sign C Evan Eschmeyer for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Rockets    Sign SF Jarvis Hayes for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Hornets    Sign SF Matt Harpring for $1,728,000 over one year.
2009    181    Grizzlies    Sign C Vitaly Potapenko for $1,000,000 over one year.
2009    181    Nets    Sign SF John Salmons for $18,000,000 over 6 years.
2009    181    Rockets    Sign PF Udonis Haslem for $2,587,266 over 3 years.
2009    181    Grizzlies    Sign C Scot Pollard for $1,000,000 over one year.
2009    181    Bucks    Sign PF Jamal Sampson for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Raptors    Sign PF Jackson Finley for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Celtics    Sign SG Carlos Tower for $1,200,000 over one year.
2009    181    Nets    Sign SF Antonio Turkoglu for $4,500,000 over 3 years.
2009    181    Warriors    Sign SF Don Ruffin for $4,500,000 over one year.
2009    181    Wizards    Sign C Hector Voskuhl for $2,571,492 over 4 years.
2009    181    Supersonics    Sign PF Walter McCarty for $1,200,000 over one year.

Vince-mania begins...

Well well well.

It appears I found a flaw in the game.

If you have cap room offered to multiple free agents, if they all decide on the same day, you can sign more than the caproom you have.

For my example, I signed Earl Boykins for 14 million.  That should have effectively taken away all my cap space.  But I was still able to sign Salmons, Lo and Turkoglu (whom I had made offers for as failsafes if none of the big 3 signed).

I'll have to add this to the rules page.  It certainly would have altered my strategy had I known.  I thought once your cap space is used, it's used.  but it appears it can only go by how much cap room you had before that FA day.

Poor Hawks.  They signed NOONE.  I thought for sure they had Pavel until Hornets came in with an outrageous 1 year deal.

Cavs got Vince literally at the last minute.  Clippers owe me for delaying the sim, and Cavs owe the Clips for causing me to delay the sim.

I guess it's time for the rebuilding part

theo resigned,i got harrington,im satisfied with day 1,altough most players went already,but some on top of my wish list are still there

What the hell are you talking about?  You lost scrubs.

Got Juan Dixon with MLE again, not bad

I'm surprised McKie signed the LLE

Alright, as for me.

I'm VERY happy to welcome Earl as the new starting pg on the nets.  Chauncey was amazing, but one of my few weaknesses last year were turnovers.  Earl is the best ballhandler in the league and fills a BIG need.  He'll help me reduce turnovers AND force turnovers.  I was even last year on turnovers.  I'm hoping to be +2 this year.

Also, signed some very good bench players to longterm deals.  That i'm also VERY happy about.

Locked up trenton lo for a very reasonable salary (less than the MLE).  He was tremendous last year off the bench, good shotblocker and rebounder.  A little high priced, but all decent big men are.  He's only 25.

Locked up john salmons for 6 years at 3 mil per.  Another EXCELLENT defender.  His perimeter defense was actually better than Battier, which makes him great to switch between the 2 and 3.  Having another shutdown defender at the swing positions is a great asset.

Finally, Antonio Turkoglu.  1.5 mil/year for 3 seasons.  Wanted 3 seasons because I wanted his bird years.  I basically look at him as a late first round draft pick.  If that A potential holds true, he could end up a B- B offensively with B+ defense, that would be great.  Otherwise, it's a low risk.

Ok, my day 2 offers have been submitted to HornetsGM.

I'm happy with what happened, As I alluded to earlier in another post,   adding depth at my swing spots was a big priority, and I as able to get 3 guys who are either SG or SF

Rodney White is a solid B offensive player AND aB+ defender,he'll be productive off the bench.

Fred Hoiberg and Dion Glover are both good outside shooters and Hoiberg is nice defensively and Glover isent too bad.

so now i feel alright with my backcourt rotation with Barry,Stockton,Hoiberg,Glover,Hav,and Eisley

and I have a player coming in a trade for my SF spot, and a good backup in White.

Wow...pretty damn THRILLED.


Am I the only one to think Jackson Finley could be really, really good?

And Mckie for the MLE? Whoa. Didn't see that coming.

Damn, hadn't even noticed you're the one who got Finley.

I offered him a 6 year deal at 4 million per year.

Nope, I do too - I wanted him for the MLE  :x

Yeah, of my entire list of MLE players, minus the ones that I probably had no shot at, Finley was the guy I wanted.

Man, He could be B B+ offense. How sick would that be.

Wait, WHAT? You offered him 6 years at 4 per year, and I got him for 1 year at 4.5?

Damn, that's awesome.

yup.

lol. nice post.

But hey, you gotta be happy.


You heard it hear first - Sonics over Nets in 7.

If I lose again in 7 i might quit.

that was heartbreaking last time.

I retained Donta Smith; he left longer and considerably more lucrative deals on the table.  For the 3rd straight year, Sampson took my LLE

Collier left to a bigger deal but I had already acquired Ferry.  And some of my MLE targets took other MLEs.

Ferry
Okur
Donta
Kobe
Nash

Should be competitive.  Gotta see what's out there for the MLE now.

Thanks for the support.  Sonics 82-0?

Nope.

Sonics' don't surpass the Raptors' regular season win record of 61.

The more relevant question is will the Raptors surpass the regular season win record of 61?

Are you serious?

I'm thinking about making the playoffs. That's it.

Ok, just making sure you don't have any delusions :)

Thrilled to get Ruffin for the MLE...  He is actually a natural PF, and will be a perfect back-up for Swift.  Played quite well as a back-up last year for the Clippers.

Had Jackson Finley as my LLE

Poor Hawks, it just does not seem fair...  They had better offers for some of the players that signed elsewhere...  Some much better then the ones offered.

You know it :)

Nice pickup of Ruffin.

Finly could put up pretty good numbers as is, and is a match up problem--so LLE is a little light ;)

Yeah, that does suck for the Hawks.

Yeah, Hawks just have the WORST luck possible, especially this offseason where it's been compounded tenfold.

Well, they do have the lowest win rating in the league.

and by far the worst record.  Yet they had the 4th draft pick.

well, a lot of guys left big money to sign for lesser elsewhere, Donta Smith, Jason Collier, Lavar Piatowski, Larry Benoit, I gave Pavel a lucrative long term offer.....this sucks, but now I just have to look and see what I can salvage, not all hope is lost.

I might still be interested in working something out like we talked about.

seems what happened to you happened to me last year with Chamberlain (just to a much, much larger scale).

Turned down longterm deals worth more money for more money this year.

In a smaller scale it's what happened this year with Finley.

yea, i'm just dumbfounded, i guess we all found out that win rating does matter, a lot apparently

Yessss.....

Lavar is a major pick up for me at the 2, he will be my backup for sure. He was my #1 target this offseason.

Here is my strategy for Pavel: the guy has a huge loyalty rating, and I feel like it was just bad luck that he didn't offer me a decent contract; I think that it's just a matter of time before he offers me a decent deal. Therefore, I offer him an "outrageous" 1 year deal with the belief that he will come around. Furthermore, if someone is looking to dump an aging vet for an up and comer, well, Pavel is available...  :wink:

I am surprised that the Clipps didn't sign Piatowski.

he's a nice pickup, I also offered him my MLE.

repeat?

why not offer him a little bit above the LLE and save the LLE for someone else?

had to take the BPA with the MLE. And Ostertag just signed with me. Interesting.

I'll likely make a move for a PF.

Finley, Ruffin, Piatkowski... seems like my players are welcomed with open arms around the league.

To be honest, I learned a lesson from the Finley-thing. I wanted to re-sign him, but his contract did not allow me to offer him a lot. So now I know I can change 2nd year contracts for 2nd round draft picks. That would have been a big difference. Though I realize (too late) that I could have given him the MLE. Too late, too bad.... good luck to Finley on his new team.

Majorly happy to re-sign Gordon. Him and Childress are the future here in LA. Both great scorers with A defense and potential.

I really like some of the signings: Chamberlain for the Cavs, Finley for the Raps, Boykins for the Nets, Sampson for the Bucks, Piatkowski for the Hornets....

Didn't the Hawks have the worst record in the league last year?

God, am I happy to have Earl.  I think now I should obviously still be able to win rebounding.  but now I should be able to win the turnover battle.  I should be able to make more three's.  I should be able to win bench production, and I should be able to shoot better from the field.

Welcome Earl, to the long list of Nets pg's.  Chauncey was great, and at 2 years started by far the longest.

Nets starting pg's:
Jason Kidd (never played)
Leandro Barbosa (2005)
Antonio Daniels (2006)
Earl Watson (2006)
Gary Payton (2006)
Chauncey Billups (2007-2008)
Earl Boykins (2009-?)

Looking at my past, I loved ballhandler's.  Sebastian Telfair (http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/oldleague/players/player223/htm) started all my tenure in the old league, and was basically a better ballhandling Boykins, with much better defense but less offense.  Then I had Daniels, whom I regret giving up.  Last year I went after Chamberlain, who wasn't nearly as good as boykins (offensively, defensively, and less of a ballhandler).  I'm quite happy to have Earl, indeed.

Turns out I was wrong.  Sampson didn't take my LLE anyway.

I learned that same lesson with Piatowski. It SUCKS, doesn't it. I mean, here I am, every year (except this one) stumbling around at the SG position and there is Piatowski who was MY player, on a different team because I couldn't offer him enough. Same with Bradley Bee.

Hell, I lucked out on Lovelette, Celtics offered him more.

And I am just so thrilled to get Finley. PF was a huge hole for me after trading Mihm, but I just found my starter, likely, depending on TC. I really feel like I just got a lottery pick. Where would he have gone in the lotto....top 5? And this really, really helps me out with FA next year...I could have 9-10 mil in cap space with a starting C, PF, SF and PG already.

What....you have the old files saved?

That link doesn't work, BTW.

Ha, that is SO awesome, I never realized it.

What a second...have you been playing ;)

We never played 7 seasons :)

[quote="RaptorsGMAnd I am just so thrilled to get Finley. PF was a huge hole for me after trading Mihm, but I just found my starter, likely, depending on TC. I really feel like I just got a lottery pick. Where would he have gone in the lotto....top 5? And this really, really helps me out with FA next year...I could have 9-10 mil in cap space with a starting C, PF, SF and PG already.
[/quote]

no way is a 6-9 PF with C inside and b- at def and reb a top 5 lottery pick
he is possible a great backup but he would have to improve a lot to be a full time starter.

no way is a 6-9 PF with C inside and b- at def and reb a top 5 lottery pick
he is possible a great backup but he would have to improve a lot to be a full time starter.[/quote]


Look at some of the guys that went high in the draft.

Marion? I would have said no way a SG with B- outside and B- defense would have gone in the top 4.

Finley would have been the second best PF in this draft, after manning.

I also offered Jackson Finley my MLE...in fact the only non PG I made the MLE offer to.

I felt with the deep FA class at pg that I could get a capable backup.
Speedy Claxton for the MLE fits my need...although Benoit was my first choice.  I guess that Benoit being a San Antonio home boy wasn't enough to sway him....so much for hometown being a big factor in loyalty.
 
I now have 14 players signed and am not sure if I will offer the LLE to anyone.  They would end up just being an IR resident anyway.   :)

If I were you, I would. Still a few A potential guys, and with them, you never know.

And if they do improve dramatically then they are gone in next year's FA.  They won't do anything for me this year unless they take a couple of their C ratings up 2-3 levels.  I would be better off signing someone for the minimum and having the flexibility to use them in trade.  Or just having the open roster spot to use in trade scenarios.

Raptors: link fixed.

Yeah, that league is played out a little longer than when we ended.  I was looking for the save right after when jem quit, but I couldn't find it.  Let me look some more.

Haha, that's awesome.

Man, I love going back and looking it up.

found it.

this save is right at day 1 of the 2006 season.  Right when Jem quit and Twan took over (it was the file I was going to re-start that league with, if we chose to do so).
http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/oldleague/

(NOTE: it's now finished).

C'mon Shane c'mon, i know you like the Californian sun and beaches. You don't need a dirty East... :)

Unfortunately at this point I had only played 1 year, turning a a 25 win team (I think) into a 50 win team that went to the ECF in my first year.

wow, look at that Toronto Raptors team. Man, I had Wright/Okafor/Darko/Grizzard/Kidd with some seriously tradeable items.

Damn, I might take that old team over my new team.

Hahaha.

Remember Chris Mihm?
http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/oldleague/players/player263.htm

Do I ever. A+ defense with B potential. Ha, I love it.

25.4, 13.1 and 3.3.

Look at that amazing contract too.

jeez.. I miss Henson, Boris and Q.. :D

So somebody owes me for losing Boykins then, as it appears he would've been back had Nets not delayed the sim.   :lol:

Yup, because had I not delayed the sim, I would have probably gotten Gordon.

So, in essence:
Losers: Hawks, Nets, Nuggets
Winners: Clippers, Cavs

When you say alter the rules page, you mean outlawing this in the future, right?  I can think of multiple ways that this can be abused.

You can't outlaw it. The only way to make sure it doesn't happen is to only allow teams with cap room to make 1 offer. That's not fair.

unfortunately there's no way for me to outlaw this.  it's the way the game's programmed.

How free agency works is I enter in all the bid information.  Then when everything's entered, I hit "Run FA Decisions".  There's no step that allows me to decline, edit, or monitor transactions.

One second all bids are entered an no decisions made.  Next second all decisions are made.  Nothing inbetween.

Nets, how can you consider yourself a 'loser' (on the same scale as the Hawks and Nuggets, who really got screwed) on the assumption that Gordon would have signed with you?  Theres no way of knowing that

You had one of the better first days in Free Agency, comparing it to the Hawks is ridiculous

Hey Nuggets, what contract did you offfer Boykins?

WOW.

The Nuggets are RIGHT ON the cap number.

With one roster space left, Mavs got Evan Eschmeyer with MLE.  He is a vet and knows how to win in the playoffs.  Won a championship with the Jazz last year.  I'm done with FA, waiting for TC and sim one.

since it doesn't matter anymore, 3 years and 33 million.  somebody may have trumped me besides Nets, but I doubt it based on previous cap situations.

btw, I fully expected to lose Boykins; it was losing Vince that shocked me.

Oh mine, i didn't even realize you lost both of them. You have no backourts whatsoever! That really sucks.

Bulls: I said I was a loser in the delaying the sim move.  I didn't say I was a loser on the first day of free agency.

Delaying the sim was bad for me.  The results of the delayed sim were still good.

Man, this was right before I got Ben Wallace in a trade... Here was my DC after:

Ben Wallace: C D C- A+ A- C  
Amare Stoudamire: B+ C- D A- A-  
Glenn Robinson: B A- C A- C
Jason Richardson: B A C+ A- C
Jamal Crawford: C A- B+ A- D+

Off the bench-
Eric Dampier: B- C- D- A- B+
Keith Van Horn: B B C- B- C+
Sean Dockery: C- A C B C

I won the last championship in that league, and I was due for a couple more I think. Oh well....

Ah, brings back a lot of memories...

Magloire/Haywood
Kirilenko/Harvey
Odom/Wally
Hughes/Manu
Shannon/Daniels

What's going on with day 2?

Bods didn't get to it last night, so he'll get to it today.

No biggie.

so, will it be run with day 3?