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Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: SonicsGM on September 01, 2005, 12:03:41 AM
Deal One:
Marcus Camby, Predrag Drobnjak and Frank Williams
for
Nick Collison and Jim Finley


Deal Two:
Darius Perry
2011 Sonics Second Rounder
2012 Sonics Second Rounder

for

Nuggets 2011 Second Rounder

Sonics Agree.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: OldNuggetsGM on September 01, 2005, 12:12:01 AM
Nuggets agree.

Gadzuric essentially replaces Camby, and Collison gives the team the low post presence it lacked last year.  Finley is a very nice backup (I love his age and size), and Perry is not much different than Frank Williams.

I was hesitant to add Collison's contract, but I don't think cap space is going to be an issue for me in the near future anyway, so I figured it didn't much matter.

Basically, I traded three parts for three other parts, getting a whole lot younger in the process.  Collison is not on par with Camby, I'll admit, but Camby and Gadzuric were redundant, and I have a soft spot for Collison (I should've kept him last year).

It was very tough to give up on Camby, but a change was needed.  I think Collison and Finley are nice replacements for him.  We'll see if I'm right or not soon enough.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: SonicsGM on September 01, 2005, 12:35:07 AM
The Sonics love this trade.  With Dirk, Peja, Kundla and English shooting the three all day long, I was in dire need of a rebounder.  In addition, the interior post defense that Camby brings helps tremendously.

Camby is another player who can run the up-tempo style that I want to run.

Camby, Dirk, Peja, Kundla and English represent what I beleive is the best starting lineup in the Western Conference.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: SunsGM on September 01, 2005, 01:11:56 AM
Wow good deal on both ends it looks like

Edge might go to the Sonics though who have been really busy this off season.

I like Collison, who is an upgrade over Camby offensively but not at the def end. Gadz should pick up the def lost by camby moving on.

for the Sonics a front line of Dirk,Peja and Camby is very good and now has 2 all star defensive players in Camby and Kundla, in addition to offensive weapons galore.

the nuggets have been consistant in the SSBA since it re opened 4 seasons ago, and i dont expect much fall off this up coming season they'll be top 5-6 in the west this season as well


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: NetsGM on September 01, 2005, 07:12:45 AM
Yeah, I agree that Gadz and Camby were redundant.  With Camby being 32, it makes sense.  And the sonics don't need ayone to shoot.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: NetsGM on September 01, 2005, 07:47:06 AM
Camby, Dirk, Peja, Kundla, English.

Oh lord.  That's gotta be the best starting 5 in the league.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: PacersGM on September 01, 2005, 08:11:25 AM
yea a great starting 5 but i am not sure if there are enough shots for everyone


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 01, 2005, 08:15:28 AM
Great trade for both teams...
Collison is a nice low post presence, and Finley is a very good and highly underrated young center.  

The Sonics get probably the best fitting center for them possible.  Camby adds shotblocking and rebounding, both which were huge areas they were lacking in previously.

If the Sonics have the right team chemistry, they are top 2 in the Western conference (the Jazz are still to team to beat with 2 championships, imo)


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: NetsGM on September 01, 2005, 08:20:52 AM
Quote from: PacersGM
yea a great starting 5 but i am not sure if there are enough shots for everyone


3 of their 5 starters aren't mainly scorers.

English is one of the better passing guys in the game, Kundla is a glue guy, and camby doesn't require shots.

IMO they have just the right balance.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: GoldenStateGM on September 01, 2005, 08:34:24 AM
We shall see...  Still a significant weakness in rebounding. Camby partially makes up for that, but not completely.  A free agent rebounder will be key for the Sonics.
And, Camby is a an older player. 33 years old, and his shooting percentage has dropped evry single year.
Both Camby and Peja are on the downsides of their career.  Sonics have a 2-3 year window at this point.

But, I do not think anyone could ever assemble a better outside shooting team then the Sonics.  Combine that shooting with 2 of the better ball handling bigs (Camby and Nowitzki)....  Wow...  
If you cannot defend the three, you might as well forfeit against the Sonics   :P


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: RaptorsGM on September 01, 2005, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
Camby, Dirk, Peja, Kundla, English.

Oh lord.  That's gotta be the best starting 5 in the league.



I would rather have Okafor, Sammy, Battier, Petit, Gordon for this upcoming season ;)


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: NetsGM on September 01, 2005, 10:21:26 AM
so would i.

too bad i won't have gordon.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: CavsGM on September 01, 2005, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
so would i.

too bad i won't have gordon.


Yeah, I feel bad for you and the Clippers... :P


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: SonicsGM on September 01, 2005, 05:26:15 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
Camby, Dirk, Peja, Kundla, English.

Oh lord.  That's gotta be the best starting 5 in the league.


Can't disagree at all.  Of course, I wanted to write that, but I stayed short and wrote "best in the western conference".

Ok...The Sonics have the best Starting Lineup in the game right now.  Hopefully Free Agency doesn't change that.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: NetsGM on September 01, 2005, 05:28:15 PM
If the clips don't get here in the next 4 hours, that may change.

Emeka, Sammy, Battier, Pettit and Gordon I'd take over your aforementioned 5.


Title: Sonics / Nuggets Trade...
Post by: RaptorsGM on September 01, 2005, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: SonicsGM
Quote from: NetsGM
Camby, Dirk, Peja, Kundla, English.

Oh lord.  That's gotta be the best starting 5 in the league.


Can't disagree at all.  Of course, I wanted to write that, but I stayed short and wrote "best in the western conference".

Ok...The Sonics have the best Starting Lineup in the game right now.  Hopefully Free Agency doesn't change that.


But you're gonna wanna win this year.

Peja declines every year. Plus, he's 30. Dirk's 29, and the "D" potential means he's probably in the last year or two of his prime.

Camby's 33.

You need to win this year or next.