Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:23:52 PM home team won all 3 games. I'm just glad I have HCA ;)
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:24:26 PM Wow, home team DOMINTATED.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:27:54 PM I just noticed (probably because this is the first time i've really cared about the finals) that SSBA gets it wrong, finals format is different (2-3-2), SSBA still has it going the 2-2-1-1-1 format of the other series.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 07:38:40 PM 2-1 for now?
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:40:27 PM Yeah, the Finals are simmed in 2 bunches.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:41:43 PM except jazz and i are both here, already made lineup changes, and have agreed to go ahead and sim it ;)
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 07:43:08 PM When i only think about 2-0 and 3-2 lead over Jazz it really makes me angry as hell.... :evil:
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:43:12 PM ewww, awesome, juicy.
Can't wait. GO JAZZ!! Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:48:48 PM Congrats to the jazz
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:50:19 PM Quote from: NetsGM Congrats to the jazz Although I love the fact that the Championship count is still 0-0 between us, I feel sorry for you that you lost after going up 2-0. Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 07:50:45 PM WHAT????
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:53:05 PM Not only that, I was up 4 going into the 4th quarter on my home court :(
damn chokers. Title: Finals Discussion Post by: HawksGM on August 21, 2005, 07:54:11 PM I think I said Jazz in 7 :lol: , congrats ot Jazz, we might be looking at a dynasty
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 07:58:53 PM Damn, this sucks.
Bad. Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 08:01:32 PM Makes me wish I had lost in the first round :(
Anyway, it validates the program a little bit. IMO the 2nd best team in the east made the finals, and we have a repeat champion. Obviously there's something about that team the program likes. Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 08:01:43 PM Quote from: NetsGM Not only that, I was up 4 going into the 4th quarter on my home court :( damn chokers. what a identical situation. deja vu Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 08:03:50 PM Hey jazz, don't take this the wrong way or anything.
But next year when you're 15-19 or whatever, BLOW UP THE TEAM THIS TIME! :( I was 3 points away from finishing this off in 6 games. *edit* Oops, nevermind. FBB does go on a 2-3-2 schedule. Which means I lost my last 2 games on my home court. I win game 5 on the jazz home court to go up 3-2, have 2 games at home to close it out, and I don't finish with a title, that's unacceptable Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 08:12:08 PM Billups is really unlike real NBA here. He's a big time chocker. Once again, he costed you the series i belive. 2 points, 5 to's and 1-11 shooting in decisive game 7!
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 08:17:34 PM Well, he certainly cost me game 7. Up until that point he was playing fairly well. 3 double-doubles in the series, 4 games of 19 or more scoring.
For the playoffs he played good. 19 ppg, 8.3 apg, 4.7 rpg, 45% shooting, 44% 3pt, held starting pg's to 42% shooting, 29% from 3 pt. But yeah, he laid a bigtime stinker in that game 7. Game 6 as well (shot like shit, but did have 10 assists to 1 to). Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 08:25:58 PM Hey! Only the Nets and the Kings managed 3 wins against the Jazz. Does this mean i have the 3rd best team in the league!? :)
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 21, 2005, 08:34:20 PM What a crazy series. I think it comes back down to matchups as Nets and I had already discussed, for the first 3 games. I put Kirilenko at SG and Hughes at SF. I also put Curran as a backup Center.
Why: The bulk of the Nets scoring came from Pettit, although I felt that Emeka and Dalembert were the ones deciding games for the Nets. In a surely defensive matchup, I couldn't let Pettit score 30 a game. I knew I wasn't going to beat them inside, my only hope was that Booth would shut down whoever he matched up with. The bulk of my scoring is spread between two players, Hughes and Kirilenko who were to be facing A defense each. I decided to lock down on Pettit because Battier isn't that much of a scoring threat and any advantage he had over Hughes on the offensive end wouldn't be that much of a factor. I just couldn't let Pettit have more freedom. Because I run my offense through Kirilenko as it is, I didn't have any problem with him playing SG and handling the ball (in the game I did beat the Nets Pettit was playing SF). The one thing I was worried about this series was rebounding, and it showed why as Emeka killed me and Murphy the first 3 games which was a nice move by the Nets. I put Curran as backup C because I needed more outside threats, I wasn't going to win trying to Challenge the defensive juggernauts inside. This played to my advantage because Curran had a hell of a series Games 4-7: I kept my backcourt the same (kirilenko at 2 and hughes at 3) and started Curran's A- defense and put Murphy on the bench. Why: I knew I still wasn't going to outrebound the Nets, but I still knew I needed to limit Emeka's scoring after the first three games and there was still the advantage of his C+ outside. I kept Curran backing up Booth to ensure that Murphy still got some minutes for rebounding and hopefully some inside scoring after Curran beat his inside players up a little. Also through these DC changes, Molina got some minutes for his much needed rebounding, defense, and outside threat. I thought about getting Eschmeyer some minutes for his rebounding and defense, but I didn't feel he was athletic enough for this matchup, and I needed Curran to back up Booth so that Murphy got his minutes. All and all, if i could have picked a team I would want to trade mine with, it would be the Nets, I have the utmost respect for thier franchise. They're still going to be in the running year after year, With Pettit and Emeka alone, this team will go far. Great series across the board. Title: Finals Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 21, 2005, 08:42:47 PM Dang, I just looked at the stats for the last 4 games.
I shot 41% to their 37%. 37% from 3 to their 28%. won rebounding by 6 per game. Pettit with nearly 26 ppg. Kirilenko shot 36%. Hughes 38% How'd I lose? Over the last 4 games I averaged 18 turnovers/game to their 9. Damn, I should have put the pace on slow. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Daniels wasn't going to turn the ball over, I should have limited my mistakes. Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 08:52:10 PM Jazz: was Kirilenko at 2 against the Kings too?
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 21, 2005, 09:00:02 PM nah he was at 3, I kept my DC the same throughout playoffs until i had to adapt to the nets.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 09:02:36 PM cause that would have been the only explanation for Tmac's subpar series. It's still a mistery to me...
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 21, 2005, 09:25:11 PM Hughes does have A- defense and when I first got him he had A defense, so he's not exactly a pushover on the defensive end...not to mention I do trap and press which brings in kirilenko and booth
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 21, 2005, 09:32:25 PM But he was pretty unstopable vs you during the regular season. Destroyed the Hughes last time with 52 points. Yet, he only went once for 30 in this series.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 21, 2005, 10:21:13 PM what were your settings against me, or what had you changed in your DC in general in preparation?
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 21, 2005, 11:04:50 PM Well, congratulations to both the Nets and the Jazz. A classic series, I would have to say, going all the way to game 7.
Looks like for those of us in the West, we have to hope that Antonio Daniels retires at an early age. My guess is that the reason the Jazz were not a 50 game winner in the regular season was the Schabinger starting experiment. Daniels appears to be the ultimate chemistry guy... For those of you in the east... Good luck :) The Nets also appear to have an excellent future, with their best players all being under 26. We all have some catching up to do... And I would say the Jazz are likely an official dynasty now... The funny part about it is, most of us thought they would be the top team in their first year. Did not work out, rebuilt on the fly, and now a two time champ. Congratulations!!!! Title: Finals Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 21, 2005, 11:30:40 PM Thanks, it's going to be tough to maintain any kind of "dynasty" past next season considering Daniels and Booth are older, but perhaps I have another year. I think I could be greedy and go on a title run again next season, but at the same time I might hurt myself for the longterm outlook of things if i don't start peparing for a post-Booth and post-Daniels era.
Curran's developing nicely but is still a little undersized to be a full-time center and as long as I have Murphy and his contract, it's going to be hard to divide minutes. I do foresee Murphy having a decent TC for some reason though and Curran proved he's a hell of a back-up, but with C potential who knows. I also get tempted on putting Kirilenko at PF because his defensive numbers are better there (but C+ rebounding yuck) and if Beardslee earns a spot then how do i find minutes for everyone? Shabinger is still a big question mark as a dependable starter, even if he develops more, he's gotta get his TO's down so he better improve his handles, or at least become more of a defensive threat to balance his TO's. I don't need scoring from him, otherwise he's going to get the steve francis treatment and contribute off the bench or get traded. Meyers really could develop into something with his B potential but needs to be greedier with shots. Because he shoots so well he can put up a lot of points in a little bit of time. To get him to take more shots I'd have to list him as an option and that's just stretching it too far right now. Beardslee needs one more good TC to be a starter. In his rookie year he was backing up both my 2 and 3 and gave consistent all around game, this year he had less minutes so it was harder to gauge his performance. He did show his old self during playoffs though, but would need to get to at least a B defense again to be a starter. I was really impressed with Molina in the beginning of the year, however; with his 2nd rounder contract, he probably won't give me an offer to resign him after this next season so I can't necessarily depend on him being there. He'd have to improve his shooting percentage to get more playing time, but his numbers this year are based on me having him jack up threes the first fourth of the year when he was getting most of his playing time. The good thing though is there's a lot of flexibility with this team, and as long as some players are going up and some players are going down I should still be good with my rotations. Title: Finals Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 21, 2005, 11:34:13 PM I did really luck out with my matchups this year. I faced the Twolves instead of the Clippers, and the Kings instead of the Mavs and I didn't have to change my DC until I faced the Nets (and don't forget Gooden's injury). I was really scared about the Kings and moreso with the Nets, perhaps my team's experience pushed them over the top in the game 7's.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: LakersGM-old on August 22, 2005, 01:00:12 AM congratulations Jazz.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 22, 2005, 01:18:47 AM Yes, congrats Jazz.
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 22, 2005, 05:11:15 AM Quote from: JazzGM what were your settings against me, or what had you changed in your DC in general in preparation? Nothing special. James/Moiso/Miller Miller/Gooden/James (wanted to attack Murphy as much as possible) Gooden/Croshere/Mcgrady (Chroshere being a starter in that 2 games where Gooden was out. Terrible.) Mcgrady/Louisetti/Louisetti Marbury/Lousietti/Marbury Pace : slow (as always since i have pretty big lineup) Press: Normal Trap: Normal (maybe i should have made press and trap to Never, i don't know) Focus: Ballanced Options: Mcgrady, Marbury (not a great scorer but still Daniels is just C+ defender and Marbury had a great series), Gooden (Miller is better scorer but i've noticed that he's playing better as a non option) Title: Finals Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 22, 2005, 06:12:20 AM one thing about Miller is he's a great passing big man, so keeping him as an option may have other advantages, it's classic King's basketball (but as with the real Kings and the magic of Robert Horry and Vlade Divac, it came out with the same result).
Title: Finals Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 22, 2005, 06:18:07 AM Yeah Miller is a great all round player. Very underrated around here. He's not a lock down defender, but still, a great player to have on a team.
Yeah, i guess the Finals are just too much for the Kings, here and in real NBA. I must have picked the wrong team. :) :? |