Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 14, 2005, 05:11:49 PM Last sim of the season. Very important one for couple of teams. Please. Kings, Jazz, Nuggets and Wariorrs in dead race for home court in the first round. Lord. Phoenix, Seatlle, Minny and Grizzlis in a huge batlle for the last 2 spots. No. Still waiting for my first 50 wins season and i'm willing to risk any injuries to achieve that so i'm going the last sim with full strenght. Injuries. But the main mission is to avoid Nuggets or the defending champs Jazz in the first round. With couple of more wins i think i can do that.
Good luck to you all! Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 14, 2005, 06:03:51 PM I'm gonna go 0-7, obviously.
Nate Lovelette as a #1 option :lol: Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: CavsGM on August 14, 2005, 06:58:03 PM Damnit. How the hell does Phoenix burst in the last sim with a 6-0 to make the playoffs? When the trade went through it was the 5th pick, now it's the 17th. Disgusting. I'm hoping to get some luck and land the 1st pick with the Spurs.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 14, 2005, 07:07:20 PM Very disappointing consecutive 3-2 sims to end the season. 1 point losses to the cavs and Celtics. hopefully the playoffs go a little better for me.
Face the Wizards, who I was 2-2 against. They did well against me defensively, although Pettit went crazy in the 3 games he did play against them (34 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 4 apg, 53% shooting, 43.4% 3pt). One of my 2 losses did come when Barbosa and MacLean were my starting frontcourt, so hopefully I can pull this one through. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 14, 2005, 07:09:23 PM Congrats to Emeka for DPOY!
Also got 2nd team all-league. 1st team defense. Sammy got 2nd team defense at center. Somehow, Pettit (30 pts, 7 boards, 4 assists, A defense) can't even crack all league 3rd team ? Larry Hughes? Are you kidding? Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 14, 2005, 07:14:27 PM Yao Ming = MVP.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: HawksGM on August 14, 2005, 07:15:17 PM another losing sim, what's new. But hey, I hope to be rolling out the red carpet for Vince Keogan soon. :lol:
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 14, 2005, 07:19:18 PM Yeah man, Keogan could be the best scorer in the league. If he ends up A- A offensively, wow. He could eclipse Pettit very shortly.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 14, 2005, 07:39:06 PM Well, the whole leaving the starters off the depth chart thing kinda backfired for me, as most of them played.
Another thing I forgot about is that their stats would drop so much. Didn't matter though, as Yao was MVP and 1st team, and Peja was first team for a 2nd straight year. Lost Springs for the playoffs, which sucks, so I guess it's up to House. Also had Allen Austin as my starting PF and he never played. Can't wait for the playoffs to start. I get the Bucks, who I went 3-1 against. Yao should dominate Collier. Okur vs. Mihm is an intriguing matchup, they should offset each other with Mihm having a slight shot blocking and rebounding edge. I expect Peja to handle Smith. Kobe may have his way with House. Baron vs. Tinsley will be interesting. I say Raptors in 5. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 14, 2005, 07:44:32 PM Quote Also had Allen Austin as my starting PF and he never played. No, he didn't start, because you never specified who would take his place on the IL. In fact, had I used up all the players you had in your depth chart, I would have had to put some of your big 4 on the IL, and obviously you didn't want that. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: WolvesGM on August 14, 2005, 08:33:49 PM The last sim of the season.... it ends horribly, I go 0-4, get the Nets for the Playoffs and Iverson gets injured, how great... , what perfect timing for him.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BullsGM-old on August 14, 2005, 09:13:24 PM Nets, Hornets, rest of the league, please excuse me right now (skip this post if you want)
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Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 14, 2005, 10:01:04 PM Quote from: BullsGM Nets, Hornets, rest of the league, please excuse me right now (skip this post if you want) FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK Trev, I hate you right now :cry: Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!!! Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 14, 2005, 10:06:40 PM So 2nd year in a row with the top record in the SSBA, 2nd year in a row with 61 wins.
It's going to be interesting with the Pacers-Magic matchup. If I make it past the first round I will have to face one of those 2. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BullsGM-old on August 14, 2005, 10:16:52 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM Quote from: BullsGM Nets, Hornets, rest of the league, please excuse me right now (skip this post if you want) FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK Trev, I hate you right now :cry: Don't hate me because I'm beautiful!!! No seriously, that 1 point loss in the last sim cost me the season Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 14, 2005, 10:38:26 PM Wow man, that's rough. almost as rough luck as your injury history.
Must suck knowing Andrew Sedran, Nate Lovelette and Richard Buckner knocked you out of the playoffs, on your home court. The rest of the sim was pretty good for you. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BucksGM on August 14, 2005, 10:45:55 PM i don't know if I'd call it costing you the season as much as I'd call it costing you an extra sim on Tuesday and likely out at the hands of Toronto.
Instead I'll take your place, which suits me just fine. More importantly, Cavs finished tied for 6th worst record, so I'll be able to add something nice next offseason. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BullsGM-old on August 14, 2005, 10:53:35 PM Quote from: NetsGM Wow man, that's rough. almost as rough luck as your injury history. Must suck knowing Andrew Sedran, Nate Lovelette and Richard Buckner knocked you out of the playoffs, on your home court. The rest of the sim was pretty good for you. Yeah man I know. Now I know NEVER to give up on a season. About 3/4 of the season, I pretty much 'gave up' in the sense that I wanted to lose more than I wanted to win. I had my pick this year and I wanted it to be high, so I didn't play around with my settings at all and let my team play fairly poorly. Two sims ago, I changed my settings to optimize Mercer's skill set and boom, my team plays amazing. Too little too late though, Mercer and the rest of the team played good, but not good enough. The Raptors loss was shocking, my big 3 played great but the rest of the team stunk it up. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: CavsGM on August 14, 2005, 10:55:36 PM Quote from: BucksGM i don't know if I'd call it costing you the season as much as I'd call it costing you an extra sim on Tuesday and likely out at the hands of Toronto. Instead I'll take your place, which suits me just fine. More importantly, Cavs finished tied for 6th worst record, so I'll be able to add something nice next offseason. Rub it in, why don't you? :) Oh yeah, I learned a valuable lesson. Be careful when trading away future picks. Be very, very careful... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BullsGM-old on August 14, 2005, 10:56:04 PM Quote from: BucksGM i don't know if I'd call it costing you the season as much as I'd call it costing you an extra sim on Tuesday and likely out at the hands of Toronto. Instead I'll take your place, which suits me just fine. More importantly, Cavs finished tied for 6th worst record, so I'll be able to add something nice next offseason. There is no grey area this season for me, I either wanted to bomb and get a top 5 pick, or make the playoffs. I know I would have lost oto the Raptors, but I don't think it would have been an embaressing sweep, I beat him without Pierce in one of the earlier sims Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 14, 2005, 10:59:27 PM Hmmm...that really does suck for you.
But I'm glad I beat you, since the Clips finished only 1 game behind me. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 14, 2005, 11:22:25 PM Well, I am happy with the sim... I never expected to get home court, and finishing 6th in the division, tied record-wise for 5th, without Araujo, well, that is fantastic. And going 12-10 without Araujo gives me some serious hope...
Facing the Kings now... And Marbury is out for the 1st three days, so this should be interesting... Gives me a chance to take away homecourt advantage, until Marbury recovers... Congrats to Hinkle, for taking the free throw shooting title this year. However, the end of season awards I am highly dissappointed in. No freakin way Shaq is in before Araujo, that had better be due to his injury. Still hoping that Hinrich makes it up there one day... he has the stats and the abilities, I am sure he got some votes this year. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: JazzGM-old on August 15, 2005, 01:50:26 AM Jazz had a horrendous sim...Booth has a 20 point, 23 rebound game, but other than that..Daniels will now have a starting job and hopefully, like before, that'll be enough spurt to get these guys roaring again.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: PacersGM on August 15, 2005, 02:26:00 AM it seem there is also a pacer bug. for the third season in a row i can´t get injury free into the POs...damm
lost JO and Fisher for around 10 days and lost my third place. Jamison is a scoring machine ... without JO he was 3 times the leader of the team. i will have to find a very tricky lineup to beat the Magic .. a great first round matchup imo. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: MagicGM on August 15, 2005, 04:34:55 AM Quote from: RaptorsGM So 2nd year in a row with the top record in the SSBA, 2nd year in a row with 61 wins. It's going to be interesting with the Pacers-Magic matchup. If I make it past the first round I will have to face one of those 2. well, Ray will be out for 9 days. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: MagicGM on August 15, 2005, 04:35:59 AM I went 5-1. To start off the sim, Kidd had a triple double.
and Dwight showed total domination on the court. it would be interesting to see how my team will bout against the Pacers. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 15, 2005, 04:51:15 AM Why Lord why......................................?? :| :(
Bulls, i think we should get drunk together.... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 15, 2005, 04:57:55 AM What a perfect sim and seson this could have been...
Went 5 - 1. Tmac droped 52 and everyone else played their role. Gooden, James and Miller all had very good sim. 50 W season and 3rd place Western. Facing the GoldenState in the first round. And then Marbury went down for 3 days. Just great, deja vu. Who's gonna play my god damn PG?? I had to change everything now, my DC, scoring options....but it's all my fault...Fuck me and my 50 wins chase, shoulda have placed all of my starting five on the injured list. :evil: Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 15, 2005, 05:05:49 AM Congrats Mcgrady on a All League First Team, showing Petit that he still has long way to go :wink:
Shaun Livingston is best defensive PG in the league?? Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 15, 2005, 05:08:18 AM Man, so many injuries around the league....
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: MagicGM on August 15, 2005, 07:56:37 AM well, it makes our line-ups unpredictable, so to speak.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 15, 2005, 08:02:48 AM Ah that's so true, never even thought of that. And since we don't post playoff Depth Charts anymore...hmm...
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 15, 2005, 08:28:51 AM Quote from: KingsGM 50 W season and 3rd place Western. Facing the GoldenState in the first round. And then Marbury went down for 3 days. Just great, deja vu. Who's gonna play my god damn PG?? I had to change everything now, my DC, scoring options....but it's all my fault...Fuck me and my 50 wins chase, shoulda have placed all of my starting five on the injured list. :evil: Oh, poor you... I lost one of the top 5 players in the game for the season, and I am facing your team, and you have lost your third best player for 3 whole days... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 15, 2005, 08:34:38 AM Sorry i just have really bad memmories. In our first season the very same thing happen to me vs Sonics in the first round. Mcgrady went down right before the playoffs and he was out the first 3 games. I lost 4-3. :?
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 15, 2005, 09:01:20 AM What's the tempo of the games in playoffs? Marbury is out 3 more days, is that 3 games as well?
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 15, 2005, 09:33:44 AM Game 1, Game 2, break, game 3, game 4, break, game 5, break, game 6, game 7.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 15, 2005, 02:09:16 PM set the team record for blocks per game for the 2nd straight year (in fact, I believe I'm the only one to ever average more than 9 bpg, and I've done it 2 straight years).
Okafor still the player with the most career double-doubles. Dalembert with the most career blocks. Chauncey with teh most 3pter's made in a game (9). Dalembert witht he most blocks in a game (12). Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: MavsGM on August 15, 2005, 03:37:37 PM Another 50 win season for the Mavs. We have won the Midwest Division three straight years now. Dirk got the POW award on the last week of the season.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: SonicsGM on August 15, 2005, 04:13:13 PM Well, after the Z trade, my team fell into the shitter.
Congrats to Trent Kundla. All Team First Defense. This guy is going to be a stud when he puts it all together. Now, I am just hoping that Deng gives me an offer, or else I am going to have to stress it out and hope he takes my max offer. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on August 16, 2005, 10:28:08 AM The seeds are planted for next season. Parker-Arenas-Russell make a great 3 offensive option.
Parker 18 - 4.5 - 6.9 52% fg, 62% 3pt Arenas 25 - 4.5 - 4.0 53% fg 40.5% 3pt Russell 13 - 5.6 - 4.4 40% fg 44% 3pt Etan Thomas put up 20 pts & 15 boards. I have two areas that need improvement and hopefully will have a decent TC (my last 3 have been mediocre at best: +2, +2, -1 as a TEAM). Russell got cheated out of ROY....and not even by who I would have thought (Schabinger) but instead by Gatling. Obviously the position you are drafted in plays a large part in who wins the award. Offseason is a breeze when you have only 1 FA with high loyalty, no cap space and no draft picks. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 16, 2005, 10:36:20 AM Gatling is hands down the rookie of the year...
He averaged 20 ppg for a playoff team. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 16, 2005, 10:37:13 AM why would schabinger win it? He was bounced back and forth to the bench because of poor defense.
Gatling scored 20 ppg and held opposing sg's to 42% shooting. dunno why you felt robbed. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BullsGM-old on August 16, 2005, 10:47:05 AM Quote from: KingsGM Bulls, i think we should get drunk together.... My problems >>> Your problems :) Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 16, 2005, 10:51:18 AM Don't be so sure. You're team is much, much younger. One season here and there doesn't make alot of diference. You'll have plenty of chances in the future. My team on the other hand is pretty old. Any major injurie could be fatal cause my window is closing fast. Think about that :wink:
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BullsGM-old on August 16, 2005, 10:58:38 AM Quote from: KingsGM Don't be so sure. You're team is much, much younger. One season here and there doesn't make alot of diference. You'll have plenty of chances in the future. My team on the other hand is pretty old. Any major injurie could be fatal cause my window is closing fast. Think about that :wink: Umm no, seriously I've had sh*t luck for the last 2 years. I just don't bring it up in every thread :wink: Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 16, 2005, 11:04:17 AM Having seen what happened to the Bulls (and specifically Pierce), it does make me wonder if some players are injury prone...
How much bad luck can one player have??? 53 games last year and 64 this year is just crazy... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 16, 2005, 11:04:30 AM Kings is right though, he's more pressed to win now than you are.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 16, 2005, 11:04:52 AM Bulls; Well, that's just me, i can't help myself! :)
Hm...you should see my playin NBA Live with my friends... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 16, 2005, 11:16:01 AM Pierce missed 21 games the first year of the league too.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 16, 2005, 11:18:08 AM So the natural question is: Who'll give him the money :?: :)
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 16, 2005, 11:45:08 AM Quote from: NetsGM why would schabinger win it? He was bounced back and forth to the bench because of poor defense. Gatling scored 20 ppg and held opposing sg's to 42% shooting. dunno why you felt robbed. Exactly. 13.7 and 5 for a 25 win team versus 20 and 4 for a 39 win team. That's no comparison really. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: HawksGM on August 16, 2005, 11:51:02 AM I'm just happy Ivan got all-rookie first team. He definitely wasn't rookie of the year but he played well for me this season.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 16, 2005, 11:51:39 AM Well, my DC is in, going with an 8 man rotation.
Can't wait to see what the Bucks have in store. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 16, 2005, 11:52:05 AM What the heck...
Devin Hinkle just shattered the Free throw percentage record this year... Old record, 92.5%, Alan Houston New record, 94.3%, Devin Hinkle Except it has not shown up on the page.... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 16, 2005, 11:57:54 AM Quote from: GoldenStateGM What the heck... Devin Hinkle just shattered the Free throw percentage record this year... Old record, 92.5%, Alan Houston New record, 94.3%, Devin Hinkle Except it has not shown up on the page.... Nothing has shown up for me either. There are team records, player season records and player career records that need to be updated. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 16, 2005, 12:00:42 PM the program hasn't updated those for the year.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on August 16, 2005, 12:01:17 PM I don't think those records are updated until the season officially ends...i.e. after the playoffs. Nets has a couple new records that are not posted also.
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on August 16, 2005, 12:04:48 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM Quote from: NetsGM why would schabinger win it? He was bounced back and forth to the bench because of poor defense. Gatling scored 20 ppg and held opposing sg's to 42% shooting. dunno why you felt robbed. Exactly. 13.7 and 5 for a 25 win team versus 20 and 4 for a 39 win team. That's no comparison really. Gatling 2 player of game, 1 double double, 1 rookie of month Russell 5 player of game, 3 double doubles, 2 rookie of month...not to mention more steal, more blocks, less fouls. If you want to look at stats look deeper..... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: GoldenStateGM on August 16, 2005, 12:08:59 PM Ah, good... Whe you said that you had records, Bods, I thought they had updated... Woohoo, finally, one of my players on the season records page... too bad he he had to go from 51% shooting last year to 41% shooting this year to do it...
I am thinking Hinkle really missed Gasol's C handling from the PF spot... Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 16, 2005, 12:15:04 PM Obviously gatling isn't going to win POTG when he's playing with KG. He's also not going to get double digit rebounds as a 2 guard. Also, they were equal on steals. with gatling having much better steal/to and a/to than Russell. Gatling also played better defense.
Sorry spurs, I just don't see it. Russell was good, gatling was better. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 16, 2005, 12:25:49 PM And part of it has to be about helping your team.
When I think of the ROTY, I think of the MOST VALUABLE ROOKIE. And that would be Gatling over Russel, who helped his team to a last place finish. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 16, 2005, 12:27:42 PM Quote And part of it has to be about helping your team. Well, that's where i'm not sure i'd make that argument. Wolves went from a team that was in the western conference championship to a team that was sub .500, somehow. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on August 16, 2005, 12:30:51 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM And part of it has to be about helping your team. When I think of the ROTY, I think of the MOST VALUABLE ROOKIE. And that would be Gatling over Russel, who helped his team to a last place finish. And give Russell a player like KG and see how much better his team does. Russell also was the top option for the majority of the year....a lot more pressure than having a top 5 player paving the way for you like Gatling had. Did Gatling lead the Wolves to a better record than last year...... Does anyone see the similarity between this argument and the KG/TD MVP argument in the NBA? Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: CavsGM on August 16, 2005, 12:35:11 PM Quote from: SonicsGM Well, after the Z trade, my team fell into the shitter. Congrats to Trent Kundla. All Team First Defense. This guy is going to be a stud when he puts it all together. Now, I am just hoping that Deng gives me an offer, or else I am going to have to stress it out and hope he takes my max offer. If you don't re-sign him now, and then offer him the max in free agency, then you can have him. I'm not going to overpay for him like that. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on August 16, 2005, 12:43:03 PM Quote from: NetsGM Also, they were equal on steals. with gatling having much better steal/to and a/to than Russell. But Russell was a primary option thus more ball handling...so of course more turnovers. And passing to KG should always make it easier to get assists then passing to Hobson & Nesterovic. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 16, 2005, 12:48:07 PM Quote from: SpursGM Quote from: RaptorsGM And part of it has to be about helping your team. When I think of the ROTY, I think of the MOST VALUABLE ROOKIE. And that would be Gatling over Russel, who helped his team to a last place finish. And give Russell a player like KG and see how much better his team does. Russell also was the top option for the majority of the year....a lot more pressure than having a top 5 player paving the way for you like Gatling had. Did Gatling lead the Wolves to a better record than last year...... Does anyone see the similarity between this argument and the KG/TD MVP argument in the NBA? Your argument is slightly flawed in that Russel was a top option and scored 14 ppg on 42% while Gatling, who wasn't a top option scored 20 on 44%. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: NetsGM on August 16, 2005, 12:55:31 PM Yeah, I wouldn'be using the fact that he was a #1 option as a reason he should win the award. Doesn't the fact that he scored only 13 ppg on bad % prove that he's not capable of being a #1 option?
I brought up the steals because you said he had more steals than gatling. They both had 1.1 per game. Gatling won it fair and square, IMO. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: KingsGM-old on August 16, 2005, 01:35:18 PM Lex The Impalier!
Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: SpursGM-old on August 16, 2005, 01:47:24 PM The primary option also usually draws more defensive attention...I have noticed several players shoot better percentages when they drop down from a higher to lower option. Also the top option shouldn't necessarily be your best scorer but your best person at getting the offense to work. Gatling shot better from the floor but worse from the arc & FT line....again Raptors your picking & choosing the stats you want to use. A large part of the scoring differential can be attributed to Gatling jacking up almost 5 more shots per game....in fact he shot almost as much as Garnett and far more than the 3rd player in shot attempts. Russell was also hurt by Arenas' arrival on the Spurs as he took away many of his shot attempts.
As far as the steals I was looking at the stats thru 11 sims and Russell had a very slight advantage: 1.1 vs 1.04 Mainly I was bored at work this morning and felt like getting involved in a give-and-take discussion. You know sometimes I get that way from the BBS, Nets. In many ways it's fun to see what other people think and if they can support their thoughts logically. Now things are picking up and I need to stop padding my post totals. IMHO it could have gone either way. And I believe the edge went to Gatling for 2 reasons...he was the #1 overall pick and he played for a winning team. I'm not upset like the Kings (j/k) would be..... 8) Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: BucksGM on August 16, 2005, 06:41:30 PM Quote Can't wait to see what the Bucks have in store. Well since I'm the biggest playoff underdog in SSBA history, I had to do some tinkering. You'll likely know right away what it was when we see the first box scores, but I'll probably discuss it further in the Round 1 discussion after the sim is done. Title: Sim 12 Discussion Post by: RaptorsGM on August 16, 2005, 08:06:36 PM Quote from: BucksGM Quote Can't wait to see what the Bucks have in store. Well since I'm the biggest playoff underdog in SSBA history, I had to do some tinkering. You'll likely know right away what it was when we see the first box scores, but I'll probably discuss it further in the Round 1 discussion after the sim is done. Ohhh sounds juicy. |