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Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: SpursGM-old on July 12, 2005, 10:54:39 PM Spurs trade:
Kelvin Cato Cody Newman Raptors trade: Maurice Taylor 2011 first Spurs agree. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 12, 2005, 10:56:57 PM Raptors also agree.
Makes perfect sense for me. I needed that big man off the bench, and I got him. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: SpursGM-old on July 12, 2005, 11:00:55 PM I maintain my cap space...actually increase it with the trade of Newman...for next year. And gain a 2011 draft pick. I figured that the couple players that would really help me wouldn't sign for less than max. And I couldn't get to max.
Only down side....I really hoped to resign David West on day 2. I had bird rights and was willing to offer more than the MLE but he took the MLE from the Magic. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: NetsGM on July 12, 2005, 11:03:46 PM Damnit spurs. I mean, I realize why you did it. Free first round pick. But don't go helping the raptors, mmmk?
Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 12, 2005, 11:05:36 PM Quote from: NetsGM Damnit spurs. I mean, I realize why you did it. Free first round pick. But don't go helping the raptors, mmmk? lol. yeah baby, yeah. At this stage, I'd pretty much rather have Newman than the pick. Plus, this team is already better than last year's team, and I really want to add a SG/SF with the MLE too. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: CelticsGM on July 13, 2005, 08:33:31 AM Well, I don't see the point doing this deal at all.
This is an expiring for an expiring and a pick around 25. I get the feeling that any mid- to long term offer to a promising player - even keeping Cato and trying to deal his expiring later - would have done more for the Spurs. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: KingsGM-old on July 13, 2005, 08:35:33 AM Well i don't agree completely on that. Cato is nice with that A- defense and B+ rebs...but the 3 years deal are just too much for him though
Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: NetsGM on July 13, 2005, 08:43:03 AM nah, that deal's right about in line with what he would have gotten. Things don't work out he could very easily be traded for an expiring.
Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2005, 09:18:40 AM I asked the Spurs to sign him to that deal - reason? What do I care about cap space?
I'm going to do everything I can to resign Baron in 2 years. So that means no space for me for about 6 more years. I could have given Cato 6 years for all it mattered. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: SpursGM-old on July 13, 2005, 10:06:27 AM Actually the Raptors' deal was the one I did NOT want to go through. And if I was dishonest type person would have never listed his FAs. :P
My only hope is that he will continue his constant dealing and that the pick isn't as low in the draft as projected right now. Part of why I was asking for 2011 picks in my negotiations....who knows what will happen in 3 seasons. Cato wouldn't have given me anything that Rasho doesn't already. My team need is for a primary offensive weapon....and the only one that I was really interested in wouldn't accept less than the max IMO. And if there was such a great interest in Cato then why didn't anyone else ask for him? I posted my intentions early enough that every GM could evaluate the FA class and make me offers. The only player for which I got multiple requests for was Mikel Chamberlain. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: KingsGM-old on July 13, 2005, 10:09:18 AM I would have given you the pick for Cato. But the fillers are only problem... :?
Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2005, 10:26:44 AM LOL.
Well, I think my dealing is pretty much done. I can tell you that I will not be on the losing end of a deal for Yao, Peja, Mihm or Davis any time soon. And with my hopes of getting my starting SG in FA today, I will have my rotation set, with decent backup options too. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2005, 10:32:49 AM I mean, this is what I have now:
Yao/Cato/Hickcox Mihm/Cato/Hickcox Peja/Buckner/(Hopefully LLE) (Hopefully MLE)/Springs/House Davis/Lovelette/Schenk Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: CelticsGM on July 13, 2005, 10:35:47 AM Quote from: SpursGM Actually the Raptors' deal was the one I did NOT want to go through. And if I was dishonest type person would have never listed his FAs. :P My only hope is that he will continue his constant dealing and that the pick isn't as low in the draft as projected right now. Part of why I was asking for 2011 picks in my negotiations....who knows what will happen in 3 seasons. Cato wouldn't have given me anything that Rasho doesn't already. My team need is for a primary offensive weapon....and the only one that I was really interested in wouldn't accept less than the max IMO. And if there was such a great interest in Cato then why didn't anyone else ask for him? I posted my intentions early enough that every GM could evaluate the FA class and make me offers. The only player for which I got multiple requests for was Mikel Chamberlain. Sure it was not your fault that Cato was the first to accept. But the outcome of that had me thinking a lot of future assets were flying your way and thus the mild disappointment. And you are completely right, who knows whats in 3 years. I doubt the Raptors have the durability to keep a team intact for a whole season, let alone three ... :wink: Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: NetsGM on July 13, 2005, 10:37:00 AM Spurs, I don't think you made a mistake at all. Sure, I'm sure you were hoping for a better s&t deal, but you're only privy to which ones accept.
I'm just mad that the raptors got one of the best backup bigs in the game :) Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2005, 10:46:10 AM I'm not mad :)
And hey Celtics, I kept them together all of last year :shock: lol. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: HornetsGM on July 13, 2005, 03:20:14 PM I like this trade for my Spurs pick next year.
Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 13, 2005, 03:38:35 PM Quote from: HornetsGM I like this trade for my Spurs pick next year. This trade really didn't affect the Spurs team at all. He had 7.2 million to spend this year, must not have seen a FA that he liked, so he signed Cato for me, and picked up a free first rounder. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: HornetsGM on July 14, 2005, 12:40:13 PM Quote from: RaptorsGM Quote from: HornetsGM I like this trade for my Spurs pick next year. This trade really didn't affect the Spurs team at all. He had 7.2 million to spend this year, must not have seen a FA that he liked, so he signed Cato for me, and picked up a free first rounder. Yeah, I want them to be just like they were last year, and Cato would have made them a better team for sure. Title: Spurs/Raptors trade Post by: RaptorsGM on July 14, 2005, 03:39:51 PM You're likely right.
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