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The Golden State Warriors trade :
Lebron James
and Troy Bell

The Dallas Mavericks trade :

Rafael Araujo
and Alonzo Mourning...

No comments until approved, please.  Thank you.

You know, LeBron James for Alonzo Mourning works straight up.

Then troy bell and hoffa works.

you could have this done now if you want.

Well, i am a fool...  
We shall eliminate the wait then...

Alonzo Mourning for Lebron James

Rafael Araujo for Troy Bell...

Just waiitng for the Mavs to agree...

but Mavs are on vacation...

No, he's still here. Go read his post again, he said he will be leaving next week.

I'm still here and agree on the deal.

I really don't know why Warriors didn't wait until at least next TC to see how Bron would develop.  Cavs had Bron for 2 years and it wasn't working, Goldenstate had him for 2 sims.

That said, Gasol, Hoffa frontcourt should be very nice for them.  

I'm proabbly biased, but I think my offer was as good if not better

Basicly is Hoffa for Bron.  I know Hoffa will be A- scoring and A- A- on rebounding and D the least but I like Bron's D alike and will play SG.

So it's James for Araujo. Hoffa is a beast, he and Gasol should make an awesome tandem. With Dallas it works out great too. Dirk can move over to PF, and Damp is fine at center. They still have a ton of depth that they could use to get better.

What was your offer anyway? :D

lebron & dirk + dampier, what a trio...gasol & hoffa! that's the second best frontcourt in the league.

very good, fair trade for both teams but i think the mavs won't be that powerfull anymore

Well huge deal.

I love it for the Warriors, Araujo could be the 3rd best C in the League in the next 2-3 years behind Yao and Emeka.

Lebron is one of the biggest underacheivers.

I think this makes the Mavs a whole lot worse. Damp/Dirk/Bron/Kittles/Terry is not a 28-8 team, IMO.

This makes alot of sense for the Warriors.

Plus, Lebron has the contract factor (expiring). What if he doesn't resign?

All that being said, I made a big push for Lebron, willing to overpay for him.

Actually come to think of it, yours was better.  The more I look at this trade, the more even it seems

Now Warriors have: Hoffa/Gasol/Hinkle

With my trade he would have had Griffin/Anderson/Pierce, filler, picks

What's the first?

shut up :)

Lebron is suffering from Mo-Pete-itous

:)

Well, Yao was involved in my offer to the Warriors. So was Baron.

So Dallas, if you wanna talk... :)

Webber and Miller? Ha, don't think they make top 10...

well i know i'm depressed, the gap between me and the mavs just got greater. I almost had the deal with offers of kirilenko, strickland, 2008 Pistons 1st round pick, and my 2009 Jazz OR Hornets 1st Round Pick for Nene and Lebron. I don't like this for the Warriors, they wanted to rebuild and got rid of the guy every team could only ever dream about building around.

In their defense, there would be some uncertainty on whether lebron would resign and Araujo is not exactly a bad player. I felt the Warriors could have gotten more for Lebron, however, if they waited until he resigned and had a contract more conducive to such a big deal. I would have thought they would have gotten some draft picks to augment their rebuilding as well. Regardless, Araujo is the best young center (arguably beside Okafor and Yao*) this league has to offer and the Warriors chose to build around him, but for me I would have chosen Lebron to lead me to the promise land.

what?

Top 10 froncourts. You said that Gasol and Araujo would be the 2nd best frontcourt. I assumed you were making a joke and saying that yours is the best.

Me neither, but I'm not sure if that's who he was referring to.

no i was thinking about raptors. but don't tell him. mods, please delete this post! :)

That's what I thought you were thinking about too.

And i agree, I do believe I have the top front court :)

delete delete delete...i didn't say that!

Well Hoffa is already 25 years old and still on his rookie contract and Bron is only 20 years old, plus Hoffa is leading the league in fouls per game with 3.8.

I think the Cavs attempted this.  It's not that easy.

Actually, I think the Mavs could have gotten slightly better for Hoffa.  He's a beast, at a position where there aren't many beasts.  An A- C offensively with A- B+ defensively/rebounding and still B potential?

Golden State got the better player.  But LeBron's a better fit for Dallas.  Even trade.

the boy is 20 years old!

That I don't agree with.  He's an A+ defender at 20 years old with A potential.  AND he's scoring 20/night.

age doesn't really play a factor. With his ratings he should do alot of things better.

trade's been processed.  i'll leave it here for discussion.

True, but given all that, you were 28-8.

I think you lose your top spot in the West after this trade.

You've lost all your frontcourt scoring. Damp shoots a terrible percentage, and Dirk is a outside bomber without much of a post up game.

You've become a one-dimensional team, but I think that you are a fantastic one-dimensional team :)

I look for you to still be near the top in the League, but not the top.

But the future does look bright, as long as Bron resigns.

The B+, B offense is not quite among that of some of the other top flight shooting guards in the league. His PPG for now is about right.

:lol2:

when's the SIM?? i had to go to sleep

THe Nuggs are only 3.5 games back.

And a first round out how many years in a row?

With his 3 pf's and terrible guard play, I'd say he's less one-dimensional.

Well, this is the same team that can't get out of the first round last year.  Bron's D is very vital to my team's success.

I'm saying he's more one dimensional due to lack of inside scoring.

But hey, I do expect you to get out of the first round, Mavs.

So there you go.

One dimensional team on inside or outside scoring?  I think my team is pretty balance.

My reasons for the trade...
There were a number of great offers for Lebron, and this was the one I liked the best.
Araujo is a beast.  Top 4 center right now, and likely, for his career, will be the third best in the league, behind only Yao and Emeka.

I did not think it likely that Lebron would resign, and was not willing to take the chance.

And, Lebron's A+ defense is a mystery.  Every week, for 4 sims, no matter what position he played, he allowed the highest shooting percentage of any player on my team.  If he was racking up 3 spg, or any bpg, it would be OK...  but he was not.
How he has that defensive ranking is a mystery to me.  Because it did not show on my team at all.
Was I hasty???  probably...  but, i was not willing to take the chance that Lebron would sign elsewhere, not while headed to the deep lottery.

I don't think you have any inside scoring.

Damp shoots terribly. Dirk probably is more of a spot up shooter than a post up player.

yes you are, but dirk is only C+ rebounding and he's your starting pf now. i have the same trouble too

I noticed that about Lebron too, when he was on the Cavs.

Damp will be an option now and he is B-.  Hump is B+, so is Dirk and Bron.  Snyder is B.  How you know Dirk is a spot up shooter? There's no way you would know what he does since the only thing that shown is box scores.

I'm just going by real-life.

And Damp shoots 37%, my friend. That's tough as an option.

In a real world, this trade would be completely stupid. :D