SSBA

Denver trades:

Chauncey Billups
Brent McClendon


New Jersey trades:

Kelvin Cato

Nets Agree

reasons why I made this trade coming later...

I really wasn't looking to add on salary for next season (wanted to make a run at bron-bron :) ).  But....I want to compete now, and this helps me do so.

Chauncey's defense obviously isn't great.  But for all other aspects of his game, he's a perfect fit for my team.  Can be the consistent 3rd option I've never had here in New Jersey, hit the open shots Okafor and Pettit will get him (Heck, Daniels was able to average 17 ppg here), create for others, not turn the ball over, force steals, and hit the 3.

I should now have 2 40% 3 pt shooters in my backcourt, which is what I want for Pettit to drive and to open the lane for Okafor.

Hopefully, Pettit's defense will move to an A-, or my backcourt will get smoked defensively.

I think I now have a starting 5 who can compete with anybody in the league.

However, I have NO bench.  Literally.

Great trade for the nets. Billups is an excellent PG(although the poor defense...)
I do not see the reasoning for the nuggets...
a) Where does Cato fit in?
b) Billups is much more valuable than Cato.

Man, Nuggets, what were you thinking?

Nets have the best young trio in the League, yet without a PG, they can't do it.

If no-one was to trade them a PG, we could have slowed Nets chances.


Now, he has to be the favorite.

nuggets just gave a netsGM a gift...can't belive. but at least west gets little weaker...

Just a complete rape.

Cato-type players are a dime-a-dozen. A-, B defense and rebounding, there are a ton of those players.

I just don't understand this whatsoever. Billups was one of the top PG's in the League. To trade him for just that doesn't make any sense.

Why not put Billups on a trade block and annouce to the League that he is available.

Sorry Nuggets, but you just got raped worse than anyone has in this League for a long, long time.

Bods, if you were Twan, all of us would be calling this a cheating setup. :) That's how one sided this trade is.

Stop it Rapetors, you rape the rockets on the yao and peja trade too.  So now is even.

Guys calm down, Nuggets obviously has some reason for doin the trade.  Another deal to coincide this one may be on the way

Not even close to like this. I gave him Boozer, Ellis and Gooden, 1 star, two potential stars.

But I love the name :)

Gooden and Ellis are only potential stars in your mind.  You can stop promoting them, you no longer have to worry about whether Ellis was the right pick to live up to his #5 pick.

I don't think this trade is as bad as people seem to think.  Billups is a poor defender, and the Nuggets had a lot of success with Boykins running the point, for cheaper $.  I wouldn't say A- defenders with B rebounding who can put in 11-12/night are a dime a dozen either.

hmmmmmm.........

Now wait a minute, I think I got it.

Kenyon's moving to the 3.  Boykins is starting.  He just traded a backup for a starter.

Camby
Cato
Martin
Allen
Boykins

As I said, he had as much success with Boykins starting last year.  With Billups, there wasn't time for Boykins.  And he had MoPete (?  I think) starting.

you are worng i think on this...
it would only make sense if martin is traded for an Allstar Sf or near there..
also raps you have no reason to call this trade bad since your trade with the rockets isn´t making any sense eiter.
if you call gooden a superstar at sf worth peja why didn´t you keep him?
i can understand boozer and ellis for yao, but also gooden?
gooden is a PF best case a tweener...
so maybe a starting five of boozer,gooden,finley, hunter and ellis will be okay but never worth both allstars
Also gooden is way overpiad as you posted before..
i think the nets deal is okay not great but okay...

I find it funny how I'm getting called out for defending the RocketsGM. Personally, I don't much care if I raped him or not.

Pacers- Like it has been documented before, Peja is expiring with a greed rating of 93. That's not easy to resign. Also, he doesn't play great defence.


And I still think this is a lopsided trade whichever way you look at it.

Nets- fine, if he traded a backup for a starter. But Cato is not anything special. His stats have been slightly inflated due to the teams he has played on, and last year he shot 42% from the field, a terrible percentage for a C. Believe me, I know about terrible percentages, I have Chris Mihm.


Plus there is the whole issue about building the Nets dynasty.

yea peja will ask for the max which is way more than gooden is now earning as i remember  :shock:
there is no reason to give up a possible max typ player for a sure max type player ...
i think your raps dynasty isn´t bad either with davis you have one of the best pgs still young enough...
with peja possible the best shooter in this league next to Allen and with yao at least one of the top 3 also still young...
if you can find something for mihm you will have 4 very good starters like the nets so i will call it pretty even...

Another point is that i think billups will destroy the chemistry of the nets..
he will shoot more than daniels and so the scoring will drop of either emeka or more likely of his famous rookie ....

Maybe Peja won't resign.

But hey, lets talk about my Rockets trade after it's finished.

Nuggs could have got ALOT more for Billups. That's the bottom line.

Kenyon's ratings stay EXACTLY the same when moved to SF from PF.  So the only real concern is his outside shooting ability.  But neither of his guards drive the lane, they are both jumpshooters, which require the frontcourt to force double teams in the paint, not spread the floor.

As for my "dynasty", please, 29 year old pg's who don't play D a dynasty does not make.

And I disagree about Billups destroying my chemistry.  If you saw the effectiveness of this team, it was crying out for a 3rd scorer.  Badly.  Battier has no interest in it, Dalembert couldn't, and neither of my pg's after the Daniels trade were 3rd scorers.  He will open up the lane for Pettit, and take double teams off Okafor.  I have no doubt that Okafor will get his 20, and Pettit will get his 25.

Stand up and be proud Nets, you done good. :)

I think we are all still waiting to hear these :)

It depends...
If Pettit goes up to an A- defense, the Nets will be fine defensively.  But a B- B+ backcourt can get you into trouble against good jumpshooting teams (Emeka and Sammy's D is neutralized by outside shooting.

But, if Pettit goes up, you likely have A,A,A,A-,B- defensive lineup, and Billups is a great scorer...

Although, truly, how could he be any better offensively then Daniels was last year for the Nets?  It makes the Nets as good as they were last year before the Daniels trade, imo....

For the Nuggets, Billups was a backup.  Cato gives the Nuggets a nice frontcourt rotation defensively.  And now maybe a defensive guy can back-up both Boykins and Allen.

And I'm waiting to bust them out... :wink:

And I guess NOW you can !!!
The deal looks a whole lot better now, fur sure!

At least I feel better about my offseason now.  My offseason went from bad (only having 4 players and NO draft picks, not signing either of the 2 I wanted) to worse (losing a draft pick in free agency).

Now I at least have a starting 5.

I need someone to take my 6+ mili in free agency though so I can use my MLE and LLE

I'll take it. I can back you up at PG. I have pretty good handles (I'd say F+ or so). However, the rest would be F-. Hope you can live with that.

Congrats, you just kicked Delonte West off my team. C ya at Fleet Center on saturday 5pm for TC. Got a shoe deal as well but won't pay more than 2.5mil per, don't worry though, I'll ask the /// CEO to double that.

And if youu don't like wind sprints, no problem. Me neither. :roll:

Great. Don't worry, just signed my own shoe deal. Here's a pic of me wearing them:

(http://www.ultimate-shoes.com/hh927bk.jpg)

They may not look like much, but I get tripped and fouled all the time. Too bad I'm just a 50% FT shooter.

As for TC, don't think I'll bother to come. My actual potential is Z.

:lol: