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Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 24, 2005, 04:08:18 PM
Jamal Mashburn
Jorge Strong
Marcus Banks
Cavs 2008 2nd rounder
for
Raef Lafrentz
Wizards 2009 1st rounder


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CelticsGM on May 24, 2005, 04:11:50 PM
accept


Celts additionally cut SF Schader and C Harrison to make room on the roster


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 24, 2005, 04:21:01 PM
I like this trade. I get a very good big man in Lafrentz, who may or may not start. He also has B potential, so he may even improve some. Mashburn would just have been on the end of the bench, so his expiring had trade value to use. I also wanted my young guys(Bellamy, Beals) in the rotation, so Banks was just taking up space. Strong is a decent player, but doesn't hurt too much to lose him. And the 1st rounder is an added benefit.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: HornetsGM on May 24, 2005, 04:23:36 PM
Celts are really turning things around, I love this trade for them. I thought it might take Pierce just to get rid of Raef's contract. Mashburn is a very solid player, not just an expiring contract.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CelticsGM on May 24, 2005, 04:42:31 PM
Quote from: HornetsGM
Celts are really turning things around, I love this trade for them. I thought it might take Pierce just to get rid of Raef's contract. Mashburn is a very solid player, not just an expiring contract.

yes, that's why I prefer THIS expiring contract. On the other hand, I might deal Mash as well if I get very good young talent back ...

... but only until tomorrow !


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 24, 2005, 04:47:22 PM
This trade cannot happen, I think.  David Harrison was traded in the Mikael Pietrus deal on Day 170.  Will have to be restructured, 60 day trade rule applies...


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 24, 2005, 04:48:53 PM
Yup.

http://ssba.phillyarena.net/transactions.htm


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 24, 2005, 04:53:41 PM
Crap. Celtics just signed off. The trade would still work if Harrison was just taken out, and he'd cut Harrison(and Schader) to make room on the roster. So can we do this?


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:01:24 PM
Yes, I can do that.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:02:25 PM
Great, thanks.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 24, 2005, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: CavsGM
Crap. Celtics just signed off. The trade would still work if Harrison was just taken out, and he'd cut Harrison(and Schader) to make room on the roster. So can we do this?

Harrison has 2 years on his contract, and the Celts are under the cap next year...  That 1.3 million could interfere with his cap space.  Not knowing what his plans are, it is impossible to tell if that would make him change his mind or not...


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:05:07 PM
Oh, Harrison's not an expiring?  No, I won't do that then.  That's something he'd have to agree with.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:05:56 PM
As a matter of fact, the trade initially was Mashburn, Strong and Banks for Lafrentz and the first. And he said that he would cut Harrison and Schader to make it work. I just suggested that he add Harrison and I add a 2nd rounder. I am leaving in the 2nd rounder now, because I'm a nice guy.  :)
But I am 200% positive that's what he said, that he would have cut Harrison as well.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:07:28 PM
Sorry, I can't go based on your account, only what was posted.

I'm not going to sim tonight until 11 pm or midnight.  So you have time.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:11:50 PM
He lives in Austria, he won't be up for a long time. For the trade to be cancelled over such a minute and insignificant detail, just sucks. Can you have him cut Pavlovic instead then? He is expiring.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:14:48 PM
I cannot do anything that he may not want done.  Having 1.3 million of wasted salary next year isn't a minute detail.

I will extend the 24 hour period to trade Mashburn under 2 rules:
1) The Cavs cannot trade Mashburn to any other team after the original 24 hours.
2) Neither the Celtics nor the Cavs can sign any player on Day 3 FA and use them in this trade (thus, the extension wouldn't help you by adding players today, only giving you more time to fix it with what you have to work with now).


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 24, 2005, 05:16:40 PM
Thank you very much. And neither of those conditions will be broken. The trade will remain the same.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on May 24, 2005, 07:10:48 PM
Well, I gave my best shot for Lafrentz, but that wasn't much, and that contract scares the be-jesus out of me.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CelticsGM on May 25, 2005, 02:20:41 AM
Oh gosh, I'm so stupid, forgetting about the Harrison 60day trade rule. Of course I will cut Harrison now to make the deal work !!!!

Thanks EVERBODY for their patience and NetsGM for there Rookie-GM-friendly options and CavsGM for leaving the 2nd rounder in ...

... man, I already start to feel right at home in here.


Title: Cavs/Celtics Trade
Post by: CavsGM on May 25, 2005, 03:11:01 PM
The problem has been solved.