SSBA

2007    181    Supersonics    Sign C Shaquille O'Neal for $114,975,000 over 6 years.
2007    181    Rockets    Sign C Yao Ming for $105,393,750 over 7 years.
2007    181    Rockets    Sign SG Michael Finley for $16,734,375 over one year.
2007    181    Heat    Sign PG Damon Jones for $32,951,100 over 4 years.
2007    181    Kings    Sign PG Bobby Jackson for $4,500,000 over one year.
2007    181    Heat    Sign PG Earl Watson for $23,669,100 over 4 years.
2007    181    Pacers    Sign C Dikembe Mutombo for $10,500,000 over 2 years.
2007    181    Mavericks    Sign SG Kerry Kittles for $4,500,000 over one year.
2007    181    Rockets    Sign PG Hunter Summitt for $16,550,000 over 3 years.
2007    181    Magic    Sign SF Joe Johnson for $11,340,000 over 2 years.
2007    181    Bulls    Sign C Chris Andersen for $27,381,900 over 4 years.
2007    181    Clippers    Sign SF Eddie Jones for $4,500,000 over one year.
2007    181    Warriors    Sign PG Marko Jaric for $4,800,000 over one year.
2007    181    Suns    Sign C Jason Collier for $4,500,000 over one year.
2007    181    Magic    Sign SF Glenn Robinson for $4,500,000 over one year.
2007    181    Jazz    Sign PF Oliver Miller for $4,500,000 over one year.
2007    181    Raptors    Sign SF Drew Gooden for $105,393,750 over 7 years.
2007    181    Timberwolves    Sign PF Samaki Walker for $1,000,000 over one year.
2007    181    Pistons    Sign SG Anfernee Hardaway for $1,200,000 over one year.
2007    181    Magic    Sign PF Al Harrington for $1,200,000 over one year.
2007    181    Pacers    Sign C Nolan Johnson for $1,200,000 over one year.
2007    181    Pistons    Sign PF Reggie Evans for $3,180,000 over 2 years

The SONICS got Shaq???

Well this sucks :(

I even lost out on Watson.  And Payton retired.

Looks like it's time to wait for next year.

Seriously.  I'm not saying I won't be above .500 or anything, but without a good pg my team can't contend.

THat went pretty good for me...look for a big trade after Tommorow's FA.

That's a HUGE contract for Gooden.  Congrats on finding someone to take it...

Yup, someone is taking it, and I'm getting someone back.

I made a bid on Andersen that was 4 years and more money than Bulls, but Gooden must have accepted and ate up my cap space.

Can't believe Shaq wanted 6 years..I offered 3, thought he would want a smaller contract given his age.


That was actually great for me....mostly because Nets didn't get one of the big 2.

why would anyone want a small contract?

Look at the Sonics starting 5.

shaq
hoiberg
dickau
stockton
english

1 proven superstar, 2 should be superstars.

GREAT GREAT GREAT!!!

Shaq to sonics?!? that's bad, that's my division. but i got bobby jackson and now i had to trade fabrizio for SF

Damn, I was really hoping to get Kittles with the MLE.


Now I have 1 trade done, and another dilemma.

BTW, Andersen to the Bulls was a perfect signing.  Great guy to go along with Griffin, much better fit than Traylor.

After tomorrow's FA? Gooden can only be traded within the next 24 hours, meaning up until tomorrow's FA.

Crap. I got no one.

Yup, he's right.  24 hours from the time of this posting.

So, if tommorow's are up before 730, i'm fine :)

Thanks man, I'm so stoked about getting him.  And damn, that was a HUGE contract for Gooden.  I offered him a 6 year contract starting at 7.5 mill with 10% increases

Would I have given Gooden that if I had planned on keeping him? No, probably not.

I love this signing. I would have never expected this. I needed depth at sg and sf and this is more than I could wish for!

Only one BIG problem... he is not on my roster?! Can someone please fix this?

well, there goes my fre agency :D

he is on your roster, you're just viewing a cached page.

Great news Bods! Thanks!

The bad news is that Shaq just arrived in my division!

The Shaq move is a complete shock...
Shaq and English are a nice combo...  Wow...

The Pacific division just got very interesting...

can someone explain me the heat signings...
i can understand jones but also watson and with the length of the contracts he will be without any capspace in the next years..???

andersen was a good pickup maybe a little too long but he is worth it

eddie jones for the MLE i never thought this would happen..
i was pretty sure the hornets would offer him more ro someone else with capspace great steal clippers..

i get what i wanted but if dikembe will decline i am in big troubles  :?

lets what the nets can do with their money and if the raps are able to trade gooden what a big contract... i think yao didn´t get more..

I actually offered Shaq three years, but I am fine with the six year signing.

Huge addition to the Sonics.

Back to the finals we come@!

with the current team? no chance..
you are basically the same team as the heat last year only younger..
at the moment i think the mavs, the clips, the nuggets and maybe the grizz and the warriors are better or even...

After a training camp with Dickau, English, Hoiberg and my SGs, plus an MLE, LLE and a third signing, this team could be very good.

I am very shocked that Shaq signed with the Sonics, but happy to have the big guy.

I did not know that something like this could happen in SSBA! You offered him a 3 year contract, but it ended up being a 6 year one?  I thought the player could only accept what he was being offered.

I think Dabods misunderstood what I submitted.

It's ok..no harm, no foul.  I'll keep him with the max offer.

Wow, well, actually that could mean that Shaq signed with you BECAUSE of length of contract.

I won't complain because if that is true, Bods screwed up, but he wanted Shaq too, and I'm just happy to keep Shaqw out of NJ.

Oops, you're right.  You did say 3 years.

Since it's my mistake, you have the option.  You can keep the contract as-is or you can trim the last 3 years off.

BTW Raps, it wasn't just the years, but the Sonics were able to offer him a contract starting at 15.3 million.  That's 5 million higher than your starting salary.  

Of course, I'm a little confused as to how this happened, since the maximum salary is supposed to be:
10+ $1,000,000 $14,875,000

Of course, I got that from jemagee way back in the day.  It's possible he was wrong.  But when I hit the max button, that's what came up.

Damn.....I offered Shaq 5 years.  Had I entered the Sonics in as 3 years...maybe I would have had a shot.

Well, that's pretty messed up again, how they can offer him more than the max.

Obviously our listed max for 10+ year veterans is wrong.

We oughta change that ;)


Considering how someone could have offered Shaq 14.6 mil thinking it was the max, and that just wouldn't have been fair to them....anyone do that?

Everyone who wanted max simply listed "max", except for you.  Of course, for you, you listed the # and I just entered max anyway because your calculations were wrong.

However, for people like me, I was basing my plan last year as getting as close to the 14 million mark as I can.  But it's too late to fix that now.l

Well, like I said, don't matter at all to me :)

You get neither, I get Yao :)

Of course, I have to lose Boozer.

Well, the chart Jemagee posted was very wrong, for many of the years of experience.

Updated:
http://ssba.phillyarena.net/files/rules.htm#trades_salary

And now it's right. Good job.

well great trade for you if h accept...
can´t really see how boozer and gooden are worth yao and peja..
if the injury still are there like last year okay but without....

i don´t think we should allow to change the length of the contract or the money for this year since everybody started with the same infos otherwise we should restart the whole FA period...
if the sonics offered the max for three maybe they wouldn´t have shaq ..
also i am not sure if the heat couldn´t give him more for three years...

conspiracy!! :)

the heat could have started him at 34 million for the first year.  It was his decision not to.

We've always operated the same way, if you wanted to offer someone a max contract, all you had to tell me was "max".  So everyone who told me max (which was everyone for those two players, except for Raptors, who started him below the incorrectly listed max value) were on the same playing field.  The fact that the listed max value was 500k less than the actual max value wouldn't have made a difference.  Free Agency is definitely NOT going to be re-done.

Basically what it comes down to is, everyone who wanted to offer someone a max contract simply said "max", so having the wrong #'s up there wouldn't have affected what people bid.  The only difference would have been how people prepared for free agency, and that we can't change now.

fuck....the rules just changed...i thought i offered shaq the max...dammit... i offered shaq 14.6 mil which is the maximum when i first check..now its 15.3 mil....dammit....

this is writthen in the rules right??

More than 3 Bird Years

For players with more than 3 bird years, you can offer them up to the maximum salary allowed based on experience, regardless of how much cap room you have.

Heat: you were able to offer him 120% of his prior years salary.  The rules didn't change, it was always like that, and I remember specifically telling you that.

this is turning into SHAQGATE... :)

i can't remember you telling me that... :shock: WOW....my team is a mess.....

I told you this personally.

http://phillyarena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8042&highlight=#8042

yeah and now pacific is a mess also. i prefer him back to east :x

I told you that too Heat. We talked about it for 3 pages.

As for your comments, Pacers, I can certainly see why Rockets would do it, although we shouldn't discuss it too much before he accepts ;)


Peja is expiring, and has a greed rating of 93. He's going to be a bitch to resign. Ellis could get close to as good as Peja. Gooden could get to be 20-10. Boozer already is 23-12. Plus he gets a first.

right....i forgot....my bad...this just sucks...i'll have to break my team up... :(

And change your signature :)

you still have Marion on that.

sorry forget about that rule...
we will talk later...

Yup, not a problem.

Oddly, the heats FA offer for Shaq was still far and away for the most money.

Strange. Shaq maybe wanted out after the Heat traded Marion.

I purposely made it 4 years, so his contract would come off the same year as Radmans's.  My cap situation is beautiful now, the Boston trade worked out GREAT for me.  I get huge cal relief in 2 and 4 years, and I have a better team.

How are the Sonics not contender, they got a great team.  A good TC will only make them better

While I do like English, I seriously doubt the Sonics ability to contend. They need years for the rookies to develop, but Shaq is only going to go downhill.

Hoiberg is nice, but how nice? Not a good scorer, and not a good rebounder.

They won't win it all, but IMO they're one possibly 2 TC's away from being a contender

Drew Gooden SF 24 $10,950,000 $12,318,750 $13,687,500 $15,056,250 $16,425,000 $17,793,750 $19,162,500

 :puke:


My FA went crappy. I was targeting two guys, and I got greedy and shortchanged both of them to try to get both. It's not over though, I stil have a good shot at some of the other guys out there.

I got Kerry Kittles for MLE, don't know how much gas he has left, but still a nice addition.

That's an amazing addition. I was really hoping I would be able to get him today.

I better win my games against the Sonics upcoming season... This Shaqgate just changed our Pacific division a lot.

Can;t wait to see if i get my MLE tonight.

Guess we have to wait a little longer tonite as my FA offer PM hasn't even been read so far ...

Nets, any chance you'll be done within the next hour?  I wanna know if I should go to sleep or wait