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Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: CelticsGM on May 17, 2005, 09:00:51 AM
The Boston Celtics trade
- Luke Ridnour, PG
- Billy Joe Kim, PF
- the Celtics 2009 #1 draft pick

to the Indiana Pacers for
- Mickael Pietrus, SF
- David Harrison, C

The trade can be finalised.


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: PacersGM on May 17, 2005, 09:06:25 AM
i agree...


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 17, 2005, 09:19:49 AM
Well, we'll see.

Right now Pietrus is a guy with good ratings, and the potential to be very good.  But so far he hasn't produced.  And trading a future pick of yours, with your current team, is risky.  2 years isn't a long time to try to rebuild, and the east is stacked.


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: PacersGM on May 17, 2005, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
Well, we'll see.

Right now Pietrus is a guy with good ratings, and the potential to be very good.  But so far he hasn't produced.  And trading a future pick of yours, with your current team, is risky.  2 years isn't a long time to try to rebuild, and the east is stacked.


well he didn´t get any playing time on my team and still shot a great %
at the worth case he will be something like battier who can shoot and defend but can´t score...


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: GoldenStateGM on May 17, 2005, 09:39:49 AM
Wow...  that pick for the Pacers makes this a great trade for them.

I like Pietrus, and he will make a good starting SF, possibly very good, depending upon his next training camp.
Pietrus probably shot well because he was a 3rd string player.

But that pick has a good probability of being a lottery pick...


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 17, 2005, 10:25:34 AM
that pick was just too much IMO. that's a lottery pick for pietrus!


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 17, 2005, 10:27:51 AM
It's a risk, that's for sure.

It also depends on 4 things:
1) if Pietrus can play as well as his attributes are.
2) If Pietrus can improve with that B potential
3) How strong of a draft that will be.
4) If (how much) the celtics can improve)

But it's a risk, that's for sure.


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: PacersGM on May 17, 2005, 10:34:42 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
It's a risk, that's for sure.

It also depends on 4 things:
1) if Pietrus can play as well as his attributes are.
2) If Pietrus can improve with that B potential
3) How strong of a draft that will be.
4) If (how much) the celtics can improve)

But it's a risk, that's for sure.


there are a lot of ifs in both ways so i don´t see the problem...
if he is a good gm the pick will be maybe a late lotto...
if the draft is weak...
in two years a lot can happen his next year pick will help him thats for sure...
its almost like drafting ... lol a lot of ifs...
i can tell you i had offers in the late lotto for this years draft for pietrus also, so there are people who think he will be worth it...


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: CelticsGM on May 17, 2005, 10:52:48 AM
I hope not to sound too cocky but I don't plan on this pick being a lottery selection in 2009.   :wink:

Aside from this I don't get too overexited about future high draft picks because
  - there's no guarantee the pick is high (like top5) in 2 years
  - look at what you got this year: Pietrus is pretty close to the numbers of Robert Dickau and, Ladies & Gentlemen, that was the #3 pick !

So this basically was trading the 1st round pick 2009 for the #3 pick this year.
 :shock:

Of course I'm well aware that Pietrus might not resign with me next year or command more money than I'm willing to pay but that's the only intangible I can think of. I think he's worth the risk, especially with Pierce' status still undecided ...


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on May 17, 2005, 10:56:17 AM
hm...pierce is on the move?


Title: Celtics/Pacers trade
Post by: NetsGM on May 17, 2005, 11:32:35 AM
I never said there was a problem, pacers, I said that it was a risk.

Celtics: Getting into the playoffs in the east will not be easy.  The east is stacked, and with youth.