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Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 02:28:46 PM
Trade 1:

Raptors Trade:

Doug Christie
Sam Cassell

Hornets Trade:

Baron Davis

Trade 2
:

Raptors Trade:

Luol Deng

Hornets Trade:

Chris Wilcox


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: HornetsGM on April 28, 2005, 02:33:43 PM
agree

I will cut Frank Williams to make it work.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 02:34:35 PM
Hey, what can I say.

Trade another NICE young prospect in Deng for a 2 time all star, best PG in the League.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: HawksGM on April 28, 2005, 02:35:42 PM
I think it's a nice deal for both teams...the D on the Hornet squad is crazy....it's been a big deadline too, a lot of good players moving


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: HornetsGM on April 28, 2005, 02:38:37 PM
I do this partially for cap reasons, but I really like Deng, and Cassell is only a year off of all-league 3rd team. Christie was a very nice added bonus.

Davis was the face of my franchise, but his turns per game were a little out of control. He was my first option on offense, on a pretty lackluster offensive team, so I think his numbers might be a bit inflated (which is what I thought about Hughes too.)

Overall, I don't think it's a terrific trade for me. Davis is probably the best pg in the game at this point.
However, I am at the point where I need to trade talent for depth (especially after trading most of draft picks for Marion.)


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 02:44:08 PM
For me, Chrisite and Cassell were not going to be resigned. Neither is Wilcox. So it's Deng and Cap Space for Davis.

Davis, with the A+ defense and A- handling will be great. So will be the B potential, meaning at 25 years old, he's only going to get better.

And I will still have enough for a max contract if Gooden won't resign.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: CavsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:10:25 PM
Raptors have to get some sort of prize for making the most trades.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:12:03 PM
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Raptors have to get some sort of prize for making the most trades.


14 and counting. :)

I'm drastically working on another before I have to leave.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: NetsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:19:21 PM
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best PG in the League.


I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Top 3 for sure though


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:22:16 PM
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best PG in the League.


I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Top 3 for sure though


Who is the best then? No other's have A+ defense, A- handling. And those, for me, are the 2 most important stats.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: NetsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:26:01 PM
Depends on what type of ballhandling you're looking for.

If he has 4.4 turnovers, that tells me 2 things.
1) Great at creating for others
2) bad at taking care of the ball

it all depends if you're asking him to initiate the offense.

I'm not going to make a list though.  At least not that I want public.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: CavsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:27:26 PM
It's arguable. The rookie, Mercer, is right up there with Davis. I'm scared to see what his ratings will be like in another year, with his B potential. Jason Williams is damn good, too. Check out his A/TO ratio. It's much better.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:27:57 PM
That's fair, 4.4 is alot, but I think that will go down on my team. Every player on my team is capable of scoring, meaning they should be looking for the ball, ready to score.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: HornetsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:31:39 PM
Will he be your first option?


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:34:39 PM
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Will he be your first option?


Nope, 2nd for now. His offensive ratings aren't enough to merit a first option.

Boozer is a clear cut first.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: CavsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:46:00 PM
I think I'm up there with total trades. Not as much as you though, that's for sure. I'll count now.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: CavsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:51:24 PM
11. Not bad.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: HornetsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:54:29 PM
:rrofl:  @ Oliver Miller's nickname Cavs


BTW, he still holds my team record for points in a game  :lol:


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: CavsGM on April 28, 2005, 03:56:18 PM
Hey he's got bulk you can't argue with that. I feel bad for any player that takes a charge with him driving down the lane.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: JazzGM-old on April 28, 2005, 04:04:35 PM
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best PG in the League.


I think that's a bit of a stretch.  Top 3 for sure though


Who is the best then? No other's have A+ defense, A- handling. And those, for me, are the 2 most important stats.


Jason kidd has A and A...but the age and scoring puts Baron above him


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: BullsGM-old on April 28, 2005, 04:07:28 PM
Mason Mercer gives Baron some competition


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: KingsGM-old on April 28, 2005, 06:45:40 PM
so does bibby...but he's playin on a lottery team so that doesn't count :)


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 08:25:19 PM
Bibby and Mercer are both up there, but are both A-, A-, whereas Davis is A-, A+.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: BullsGM-old on April 28, 2005, 08:27:55 PM
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Bibby and Mercer are both up there, but are both A-, A-, whereas Davis is A-, A+.


Yeah, Baron is undoughtably the better distributer, but Mercer is way a way better scorer (but then again, a PG doesn't have to score).  I also would think Mercer isn't done improving.  The funny thing is that Mercer is averaging 0.5 BPG and hes 5'7'  :)


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 08:29:34 PM
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Bibby and Mercer are both up there, but are both A-, A-, whereas Davis is A-, A+.


Yeah, Baron is undoughtably the better distributer, but Mercer is way a way better scorer (but then again, a PG doesn't have to score).  I also would think Mercer isn't done improving.  The funny thing is that Mercer is averaging 0.5 BPG and hes 5'7'  :)


Mercer isn't done improving, but neither is Davis, as both have B potential.

Mercer is the better scorer, true, and maybe that's what you need for your team, making him a perfect fit. But I needed someone to defend, becase Ellis at SG is a defensive liability.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: BullsGM-old on April 28, 2005, 08:30:41 PM
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Bibby and Mercer are both up there, but are both A-, A-, whereas Davis is A-, A+.


Yeah, Baron is undoughtably the better distributer, but Mercer is way a way better scorer (but then again, a PG doesn't have to score).  I also would think Mercer isn't done improving.  The funny thing is that Mercer is averaging 0.5 BPG and hes 5'7'  :)


Mercer isn't done improving, but neither is Davis, as both have B potential.

Mercer is the better scorer, true, and maybe that's what you need for your team, making him a perfect fit. But I needed someone to defend, becase Ellis at SG is a defensive liability.


Are you going to play Baron 40 MPG like the Hornets did?


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 08:37:00 PM
I'm going to play Baron how ever long the computer plays him :)

He is my starting PG, and that is the only place where he appears in my depth chart.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: BullsGM-old on April 28, 2005, 08:39:27 PM
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I'm going to play Baron how ever long the computer plays him :)

He is my starting PG, and that is the only place where he appears in my depth chart.


Yeah but most people only use one of the 3 depth chart  slots for starters (starter/bench/bench), but Hornets played Baron for the 1rst 2 (Baron/Baron/bench).


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 08:41:27 PM
Nope, not going to do that. Really like Lovelette, want to get him some time.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: HornetsGM on April 28, 2005, 08:54:19 PM
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I'm going to play Baron how ever long the computer plays him :)

He is my starting PG, and that is the only place where he appears in my depth chart.


Yeah but most people only use one of the 3 depth chart  slots for starters (starter/bench/bench), but Hornets played Baron for the 1rst 2 (Baron/Baron/bench).


Nah, I played it as Baron / Shammond Williams / Baron

The reason he got so much pt is that I was playing a slow pace, so he and hughes didn't get tired.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: RaptorsGM on April 28, 2005, 08:55:39 PM
I'm trying a fast pace. Should cut into the mins and TOs for Baron.


Title: Raptors/Hornets Trade
Post by: BullsGM-old on April 28, 2005, 08:56:33 PM
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I'm going to play Baron how ever long the computer plays him :)

He is my starting PG, and that is the only place where he appears in my depth chart.


Yeah but most people only use one of the 3 depth chart  slots for starters (starter/bench/bench), but Hornets played Baron for the 1rst 2 (Baron/Baron/bench).


Nah, I played it as Baron / Shammond Williams / Baron

The reason he got so much pt is that I was playing a slow pace, so he and hughes didn't get tired.


Ok, got ya