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Okay, about extensions:

If we have a player who is only inked for Year One, do we extend them during this offseason, or after their one-year deal is up?  I would assume the latter.

So since we're just starting this, no one will be extended during this free agency go-round, right?  We're just looking to sign free agents?

Cutting:

If we cut a player, we're on the hook for all the money, right?  So a two-year contract worth, say, $4 million for both years would still count $4 million against the cap even with the cut?

Nuggs, you are correct on all your questions.

Thank you.  I just wanted to make sure.

Are extensions automatically accepted or can another team lure them away with a better offer in free agency?

After each season, players that want to remain with your team will make an offer to you, and yiu can accept or decline it. The players who choose not to resign at that time(they decide to test Free Agency) can listen to  offers from other teams, or re sign with their old team. hope that that helps.

Are we stuck with the positions currently assigned or can they be changed?  Can I use a sg as my backup pg on my depth chart?

For example on the Spurs Beno Udrih is listed as a sg but in reality is a pg.

Just to add on to what SunsGM said (and what he said is 100% correct), when they offer you extensions at the end of the year you either accept or decline it, there are no negotiations.  You either sign them to the contract they offered or allow them to test free agency.

So with the expiring contracts, you'll receive an offer from everyone who's up?  Or just those with a high loyalty/winning (if you're winning) seeking to stay?

You can change the guy's position by telling the commish you want to change him. Usually this is done in the "cut/sign" thread, and maybe the thread should be edited to include that subject.

As far as your depth chart, you could play Marc Jackson at point guard if you wanted to.

You won't receive an offer from everyone, and a lot does depend on loyalty and winning.
If they decide not to immediately sign with you and you don't own their bird rights (see the "league rules" thread), then it's likely that you will lose them if they are a pretty big free agent.

EDIT: By the way, you might not want to play Udrih at the point since he has D+ handling

Okay, so you can change a guy's position eligibility.  But a player can only play ONE position?  So if a guy is listed as a PF, and I want him to be a C, and change his position to C, does that then mean that he can no longer play at PF?  

For example, McGrady has to be either a SG or a SF, and can't play both?  There aren't any swingmen (SG/SF) or PF/C in the game?

Nope, you can place them at any position.

Each position (PG, SG, SF, PF, C) has people listed as 3 deep.

So, let's say for example I sign Okafor.  My PF,C rotation could look like this.

C: Okafor, Boozer, Humphries
PF: Boozer, Humphries, Okafor

If I wanted to.  What position you have them listed as doesn't make too much of a difference.

The only real difference it makes is on their ratings.  If you change a PF to SF, his ratings will reflect how his skillset is compared to others at his position.  His defense may have been an A- at pf, but because he's bigger and slower and is now on the wing, might drop to a B at SF.  By changing his position you can see these changes in abilities and plan your roster accordingly.

Thanks a bunch.  

But one last thing: How do we get to see these ratings for position changes?  If you make a change in the system, will the ratings for both the old and new positions show up?  Or will we have to PM you to change it back if we don't like the new rating?

Obviously, something like this makes your life a lot more time-consuming.  But I have at least one guy already on my roster who I'd like to see play multiple positions, and the FA's I'm looking at could play a couple different spots too.  And as to the FA, if their ratings are going to change, that would lead me to revisit my offers to them.

I just created a new forum for Positional Changes.

If you want to change the position of a player, request so there.

As for finding out the results, you'll see that once I upload the site.  I'm not going to track down each person and reply with their abilities.  As you said, it would cause extreme overhead.  People would request changes for every person on their team, and I'd constantly be doing that.

So you'll find out when I run that simulation.  Then you can change it back before the next simulation is run.

There's really no consequence in making a bad change though, as it won't affect their play.

The players have a rating for potential. This means that all the other rating can move up. When does this happen? Only in the off-season as a reaction to how they played that season? Or can ratings move up and down during the season?

Potential is potential to improve.  So yes, it's how much more they can improve their other ratings.

As players age, their ratings can also decline.

All changes to a players ratings (outside of when they change positions, as described in the prior post) happen during a period called training camp.  This is simulated immediately after day 5 of free agency.  A player cannot improve/decline at any other point in the season.

the potential that is shown on each roster is just scouted right?

cuz this league has by far the fewest A's, which is different, makes it a lot more challenging...

meaning that Araujo isn't really F...lol

also the overall ratings in general are a lot lower than other leagues....in other leagues im in, your 20 PPG scorers are like B+ inside for a bigman at the least, and B- inside, B outside or greater for most 1/2/3's...

im guessing that in this league it might be different??

It is scouted potential, that is correct.  Potential is not exact.

As for the ratings, they mean the same as in all other leagues.

Ok, so if potential is not exact, who or what decides if a player is gonna raise (or drop) his ratings.

And is it safe to say that a good young player with potential c can still raise his ratings more than expected? Just like 30 year old players with potential b can drop real fast?

That's exactly correct. A guy like Araujo who i an F potential isn't likely to move much, but I guy with C can still move well. That's why Trevor Ariza is an intruguing rookie Free agent.

what about injuries? are they based on real nba or is not that bad?

injuries occur pretty often. You can have season ending injuries. It is not "based" on the real nba though.

are there some players that are more likely to get injured, for example c-webb or vince?

Nope, it's all random.

Trevor Ariza    SF    6'7''    194    18    C+    C-    C-    C    C-    C    


Too much must improve Ariza for became a decent player.  :wink:

A question) In trades, can two players be taken back to overrule the 60 day trade rule? For example, I have Potopenko who was recently traded to me. Can I re-trade him, him alone, for two players? Or must it be a 1 for 1? Also, can he be traded along with a pick?

If these questions have already been answered, I apologize...

You can receive more than 1 player, but you can only send out one player.

Can only send out one player, but can't send out a pick?

I believe yes, you can send a pick as well.

But don't quote me.

What are the options for Pace, Focus, Press, and Trap?

Just got finished posting that here:
http://phillyarena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=121

A recently traded player can not be traded for 60(unless 1-for-1)...  Correct???  If so, when do those 60 days come up???  after 60 days of simulation(2-22-05)???  another question is how long does a normal off-season last???

I'll check tonight to see if it's up until day 60 in the sim or if the offseason counts at all.

I'll work on the offseason schedule soon.  It's a little harder to tell, because at the end of the season the free agents give extension offers.  I can't proceed until I get answers from ALL GM's, so it really depends on GM interaction on how long it will take.

The offseason should take between 20 days and a month (draft takes a majority of the time.  It'll take about 10-15 days itself).

What's that mean in the contract section?  I just noticed that Elson has -$1 for Year Two, even though he's a FA after this year.  Is that just a system glitch?

Yes, that's a system glitch.  He's a free agent after this year.  I'll fix that.

Dabods...were you able to determine when the 60 days expire?

60 sim days after the move.

Say your player was traded on Day 1.  He could not be dealt along with other players until Day 60.

What about the players that were traded on day 180 according to transaction history?  What is day 60 for them?

I am pretty sure that they have cleared the 60-day rule.  That's how the old league worked.  But I guess that's up to the commish.

Unfortunately all players signed/traded in the offseason can't be traded until day 60.

My mistake.

we only flat out cancelled the rule at the beginning of twan's sim because the file was messed up and it was saying everyone was signed/traded in the last 60 days.

Does the salary cap rise at a fixed rate for the ensuing years?  Can we determine what that will be ahead of time?

Salary cap will always stay at 43mil.  It will not be change.

I thought it did change last time?

I probably just thought that because of the fluctuations in salary though.

Salary cap remains the same at 43.8 million.

Likewise, all maximum and minimum values you can set contracts remain the same, and the MLE/LLE remain the same, value wise.

Okay, me again.  How does the offseason work with free agents already on rosters?  

Say AI is a free agent after this year.  You've mentioned that FA's, if they want to stay, will make an offer to their previous employer.  Does this occur like a day before actual free agency?  If I'd like to bid on AI, will I have to wait until the team decides on AI's offer?  Do most star FA's submit offers to their previous team?  (n.b. I know that a FA would get an extra year and a higher % increase each year from the previous team, so odds are against me anyway.)

Just curious about this, because if I decide to make a couple trades to have room next season, I don't want to be left with a bunch of cap room and no prospective FA's to sign.  Thanks.

And that leads to another question...  Is there any such thing as Restricted Free Agency?  Will I be allowed to have JRich shop for offers, and then match them.  Or will I have to accept his offer, to make sure he stays.

And in what time frame does he make that offer to the team?  Because that makes a huge difference in capspace availablity...

Offers by upcoming free agents are made at the end of the regular season.  Decisions are due after the playoffs.  We then go to the draft, then free agency.

And no, there is no restricted free agency.  You can't match an offer.  The only thing bird years does is allows you to give them max contracts even if you're over the cap.

Before FA day 1, if AI wanna to resign with you then he will give you how much he wants and for how many years.  If he don't wanna to resign with you then you will have to bids on him again.  It depends on if AI is greed, loyalty, and play for winner.  Players with high greed will most likely demand a hugh contract if he wants to resign with you, or he can go into the FA market.  Loyalty players are most likely to resign with you.  Play for winner means he wants to play for a team that can win.

So, in the theoretical scenario I created, if the Sixers choose not to resign AI by the end of the playoffs, can they still bid on him during the free agency period and give him the 7 year, 12.5%-increase offer, or is that only done during the previous period?  (which would, in essence, give the Sixers 2 separate attempts to try to resign AI)

If AI doesn't wanna to resign with or you don't wanna to resign him, you will have to bids on him.

Yes, his old team would be able to bid on him, and he would still have the upper hand.  the old team could give him a 7 year deal (whereas other teams could only give him 6), with 12.5% raises (other teams could only give him 10% raises)

Wow...  We have 10% and 12.5% raises, but the salary cap is held steady at 43 million?  Long deals are incredibly costly then...

You don't have to raise any %.  You can make a flat contract.

But yes, longterm deals are costly.  Giving out long-term deals to mediocre players is a quick way to spell doom.

Of course, this is also true in real life.  Look at the Sixers, for example.  Locking up Greg Buckner, Eric Snow, Aaron McKie and Kenny Thomas has done wonders.

Or look at my team Jalen Rose, Jerry Stackhouse, Ira Newble and Tariq Abdul-Wahad.

True Dabods...  (Hops here)
Snow, McKie, Buckner, badness...  KT, so so, not horrible, and not the greatest contract in the world.  My mind will likely change in 3 years though.. lol

But in this sim, there is no upper limit for salary, is there?  Unlike real life (aka cheap owner).  Every team can become the Knicks...   :D

Yes, every team can become the knicks.

There's actually an updated version of FBB, that I have as well.  That took into play owners.  Each team is assigned an owner, and each owner is different on how much he cares about winning, or about profits.

Each person can then set ticket price based on how loyal the fans are and how they are winning.  You then raise the ticket prices, while still maintaining sold out stadiums.  By generating more revenue, the following year the owner might set a higher budget.

I decided not to use this one because, while a little more involved, could create some unfair situations for teams.  Some owners set a total budget as low as 46 million, while others can go as high as 70 million.  it just doesn't create a level playing field.

Yu are right.. that one also sounds like if you are bad, you set yourself into a loop you cannot get out of, (attendance down, less money, lesser players) unless you basically purge all of your salary.

Yeah.

BTW hey hops, I had no idea that was you.

Is there a set salary structure for draft picks?  Can they refuse your offer and become free agents?

There is a set salary structure.  I'm not sure exactly what it is, but it starts around 2.8-3 million for the first pick and about 900k for the last pick in the first round.

And no, they can't refuse your offer.  They're yours.

Will a players weight go up over  the years?
I would expect Andris Biedrins and D Howard to go up in weight , considering they are only 17....

That's a good question, that I don't know the answer of.  I've never noticed a players weight go up or down before, but I'm not positive.

Guess I should not hold my breath for him growing any taller then either.. lol

Man, I hope weight goes up. Is Crhis Bosh seriously gonna be a 210 pound 30 year old? :S

I definitely wouldn't hold you breath on them getting taller.

heavier might be possible.

Even scarier is a 260 7'5" Pavel at 35 years old.. lol

Weight and Height will not be change.  One solution in my other league is we will have a weight room in the offseason, where you can add 10lbs to two players, so 5lbs each.

REGARDING THE DEPTH CHARTS

Do you recommend to change it every sim? How bout every round in the playoffs? Depending your opponent?

you're not a beginner  :roll:
anywho, change it if it needs to be changed.  if it's not working, fix it.

For the playoffs I'll change it for matchup purposes.  like switching my best perimeter defender from the sg and sf positions.

A couple questions:

Is the draft a true lottery or based solely on records?  I read posts that seem to indicate that it is based solely on record.  e.g. How do you know if a pick will be top 5 or not?

In trading a player obtained through an earlier trade I understand that he can't be packaged before 60 days.  How is that he can be traded on the 60th day or after the 60th day? For example, I acquired a player on day 21.  On March 1st we will sim days 81-90.  Can I trade that player at the start of that sim (day 81) or do I have to wait until the next sim?

1) The first 3 picks are a lottery, from the 13 teams that didn't make the playoffs.  The remaining 10 lottery picks are based on record for the remaining non-playoff teams.

It's exactly like the real nba.

2) after 60 days.  So he can't be traded until AFTER day 81.

During the off season when do I have to cut enough players to get my roster down to 15?  For example if I have 8 players under contract, resign 2 of my free agents and draft 7 players when do I cut two players?

Before the draft?

Before free agent signings?

After training camp?

You can never have more than 15 players on your roster at any time.  So if you enter the draft with 3 picks, and have 13 players on roster, you need to cut someone.

And if you have 15 players and a draft pick left and you don't cut a player that draft pick is "forfeited," and the next team will select...

I'm not sure exactly what happens with the draft, I'll find out tonight.

Hornets is right you'll forfeite the pick if you don't cut a player.  It happended in one of my league, that guy has the 9th overall pick and he didn't cut anyone. :lol:

Then what is the order of activity?

Resign your free agents
Draft
Sign other team's free agents

or does the draft come first?

If the draft is first; do you have the opportunity to cut players including draft picks before resigning your own free agents?

That's exactly right.  Then training camp, then the season.

we determined that the cap number always stays at the same amount, correct?

cap number's always 43.8 million.

Does this still hold true, or will those offers be made after the playoffs?

At what point is it determined which teams have the MLE & LLE?  Before or after resigning your own free agents?  In the real NBA free agents hold a cap cost until you resign them or renounce them.

For example if I have $10 mil in cap space but resign 2 of my own free agents for that $10 mil; do I get the MLE & LLE?

Yes, it still stands.

I need to begin getting them all together than private messaging them out.

Cool, thanks for the info Dabods...

Oh shit, Odom is injured for the next 5 days.  :cry:

Netsgm, how many days rest do we have before the Playoffs start?

1 day.

The regular season ended on day 120.  The playoffs begin on day 122 in the sim.

There are breaks inbetween the games.  Essentially, travel days.  So there are breaks after game 2 of a series, after game 4 of a series, then i believe after games 5 and 6 and 7 as well.

So I think Odom will miss 2 games.

If a player was not included in the PM's you sent out, I'm assuming that means they want to "test the market", so to speak?

Yeah I think so

I aske the same question...
If a player was not mentioned in the PM you received, he is going to test the free agent market...

yes, that means he's testing the market.

Are re-signed players under the 60 day trade rule?

Players given extensions are not subject to the 60 day trade rule.  They can be traded upon the completion of the playoffs.

So, I have never seen an offseason, or training camp, so I have some very basic questions, mostly on potential...

Obviously, a player with A potential is likely to improve.
The younger a player is, does that make him more likely to improve?

A player with B potential still has plenty of room to improve, but not as drastically as a player with A potential.  Is that correct?

A player with C potential can improve (if they are young), but will likely improve in only one stat category, if it all.  Is that true?

And players with D and and F potential are likely to get worse.

Does how a player plays during the season have any affect on how they improve in training camp?

And I understand that the potentials that we see are perceived potentials, and not the actual potentials...

Repost:

You always have the MLE and LLE, unless you're over the cap.

For example, last year I had 12 million in cap space.  I signed Okafor and Barbosa.  I was then able to use the MLE and LLE, although I chose not to do so.

The Hawks last year used their cap space on Stromile Swift.  They then signed Rickey Paulding to the MLE.

So if you use up your cap space now, you will have the MLE and LLE.

Also, anyone not under contract on your team doesn't count against your cap  when free agency begins, even if you retain their bird rights.  It's a slight departure from the normal nba.  In the nba, unless you relinquish a guys bird rights, a salary (determined as an increase from his last years salary) still counts against your cap.  Not so in this sim.

As for potential, Golden State.  It's really hard to predict.  Obviously, an A has more chance to improve than a B.  A "B" has more chance to improve than an A.  And a C I wouldn't expect any improvement.  Improvement from a C is possible, but it's not something I would count on.

Some players with A potential never improve.  Ever.  Some players with C potnetial get better every year.  There is no exact science.

One thing, how much you play a person during the regular season has no influence on if they improve in training camp or not.  It's one of the less fleshed out areas of this simulation.

Heres a question,

the non playoff teams, is draft order determined by finish of team record wise, or by the order of finish during the playoffs.

ex: the Rockets are the #1 team in the west, if they are upset(however unlikely :D ) by the Trailblazers, do they still go to the bottom of the first round, or do they go in to the mix for the picks in range 14-22?

just curious

thanks!

I believe it's done just like the nba does it, by record.

Does 'over the cap' here also include having less than 4.5 million in capspace (like in the FA signing)?

well, I meant under the cap ;)

And yes, if you have less than 4.5 million in cap space you can use your MLE>

You no longer have to post in this topic, I created a separate board for this.  This way we can have separate posts on each question and it's easier to find answers.