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« on: March 25, 2005, 01:03:48 PM » |
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I already know that a player with A or B potential is likely to improve a bit.
But what happens to potential? Does it decrease with age?
If a player has A potential, and then increases a couple levels (e.g. say from a C+ to a B), does his potential drop because he already improved?
Is potential totally random, and could change every TC?
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2005, 01:09:52 PM » |
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There are no +'s or -'s in potential, it's onle A,B,C,D and F.
And there is NO way in telling wheter it will or will not change in TC.
Basically, A should show improvement. B will show less improvement. C is reaching the peak of his career. D will not show much improvement, and F is on the decline, unless of course it's a guy like Hoffa, who shouldn't show a decline of stats at age 20 or whatever he is.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2005, 01:10:47 PM » |
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I have a question that sort of goes with this. Can a players other ratings (not potential) deteriate with age?
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2005, 01:12:35 PM » |
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I have a question that sort of goes with this. Can a players other ratings (not potential) deteriate with age? Potential determines what the other ratings do. If the guy has A potential, it's the other ratings that will change. Potential has no affect with in-game situation. Potential affects the ratings that DO affect in game situations.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2005, 01:12:43 PM » |
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OK.. Does that mean that a C is not likely to improve, and a D is likely to slightly decline
Or that a C will make minor improvement, and a D will likely not move.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2005, 01:14:36 PM » |
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OK.. Does that mean that a C is not likely to improve, and a D is likely to slightly decline
Or that a C will make minor improvement, and a D will likely not move. it's impossible to tell. Honestly, I've seen D's improve more than A's in certain years. In general, C will either not move, or make minimal moves, and D will not move, or decline slightly. Age is a big factor too. I think Reggie Miller has B potential in SSBA, yet he's 38 or something. Don't expect him to improve as much as Lorenzen Ellis.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2005, 01:22:56 PM » |
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That makes sense... Daryl Armstrong is a B potential too.. Doubt he will be getting much better then he already is.
Some years will be different, but the question is what is the average...
And, does anyone have an idea how often the true potential and the scouted potential matchup? percentage wise
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2005, 01:25:02 PM » |
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It's imposible to get a "percentage", because since every A potential changes differently, whos to say what an A potential should change to?
Know what I mean? Just because you have A potential as your "true" potnetial doesnt mean you will go up 3 ratings. You could go up 8, you could go up 1.
There are just too many random factors to even guess.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2005, 01:28:32 PM » |
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But A potentials will go up at least one category a certain percentage of time... 2 categories a certain lower percentage.... Just as B and C will.
It is not impossible... just not easy.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2005, 01:30:09 PM » |
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It is impossible. You'd find that an A potetial goes up in Defense 10% of the time, and this and that. You'd have to do a study of EVERY player before and after T. Have fun with that
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2005, 01:33:25 PM » |
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Oh, I know that each player wil go up in different things, to get that specific it is necessary to have to numbers of the actula 12 attributes that make up a player...
I may give it a try... depends on how bored I get at work.. lol
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2005, 01:53:07 PM » |
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If a player has A potential, and then increases a couple levels (e.g. say from a C+ to a B), does his potential drop because he already improved?
Potential does drop with time, yes.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2005, 02:04:22 PM » |
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Does the player's position have a bearing on which attributes improve? For example I moved Stephen Jackson from sf to sg....will that effect his improvement in TC?
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2005, 02:15:19 PM » |
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Nah, doesn't have a bearing. players have 12 (I believe) attributes, ranging from shooting, 3 pt shooting, ballhandling, passing, offensive rebounding, defensive rebounding, etc. Those are what changes in training camp.
By changing positions ratings can change because some positions need certain attributes more. But you changing the position doesn't affect what improves.
In fact, changing a players position has no bering on the game. It's really just you seeing how effective they'll be at that position. If I change Okafor to a PG, but play him at PF in my depth chart, his effectiveness is still judged as a pf.
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2005, 02:20:41 PM » |
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In fact, changing a players position has no bering on the game. It's really just you seeing how effective they'll be at that position. If I change Okafor to a PG, but play him at PF in my depth chart, his effectiveness is still judged as a pf.
true.. but how often would you have a PG with an A+ inside and A+ rebounding....
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