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Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on January 31, 2005, 11:51:28 PM
Sixers Trades:
Aaron Mckie
Mike James
John Salmons

Nuggets Trades:
Andre Miller
Voshon Lenard


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: OldNuggetsGM on February 01, 2005, 09:15:06 AM
I agree.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: NetsGM on February 01, 2005, 04:31:44 PM
Doesn't work, you have to wait 60 days before re-trading a player.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: HawksGM on February 01, 2005, 07:07:15 PM
Quote from: NetsGM
Doesn't work, you have to wait 60 days before re-trading a player.


I thought if we didn't sim a day that a player could be traded again until that day has been simmed?


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: NetsGM on February 01, 2005, 08:49:03 PM
only if he's the only player being traded.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 02, 2005, 10:15:48 AM
Can't we do 2 seperate deals like..

Mckie for Andre Miller

then..

Salmons and James for Lenard?

That way its one on one deal that involves andre..


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: OldNuggetsGM on February 02, 2005, 10:42:28 AM
But the second deal doesn't work salary-wise.  Sorry, this is my first time with this, and I didn't realize you couldn't deal James.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: NetsGM on February 02, 2005, 11:06:26 AM
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Salmons and James for Lenard?


James can be the only person sent out.  There you're sending two.

Nuggets: don't worry, I expect mistakes to be made.  Especially with the amount of first timers we have.  It's cool.

Although I did suspect SixersGM to know about the 60 day rule.  He's a long time :)


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 02, 2005, 05:19:31 PM
Damn 60 day rule! I always hated that rule!  :(

James for lenard

Andre for Mckie

Done..


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: OldNuggetsGM on February 02, 2005, 05:51:14 PM
I can't agree to this.  The reason I agreed to the other one was for depth: a 3-for-2 deal to give me more help in the backcourt.  This is just a straight swap, and I don't gain anything from it.  Sorry.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: NetsGM on February 02, 2005, 06:35:11 PM
I'm not sure how it processes FA and training camp.  I'll try to run it after training camp is simmed (which would be before the season)


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 02, 2005, 11:36:17 PM
Then..

Mike James for Lenard

Mckie and Salmons for Andre Miller


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 02, 2005, 11:37:30 PM
Quote from: SixersGM
Can't we do 2 seperate deals like..

Mckie for Andre Miller

then..

Salmons and James for Lenard?

That way its one on one deal that involves andre..


sorry about that error trade, i was too sleepy when i made this.. :D


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: NetsGM on February 03, 2005, 12:25:58 AM
Whoops, it appears I was wrong as well.  this is one where the program doesn't follow real nba rules.  A player can't be traded for 60 days after being signed/traded no matter what, even if he's the only player going out.

This is just going to have to wait.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 03, 2005, 05:17:30 AM
GRR...  :evil:


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: RaptorsGM on February 03, 2005, 07:22:58 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
Whoops, it appears I was wrong as well.  this is one where the program doesn't follow real nba rules.  A player can't be traded for 60 days after being signed/traded no matter what, even if he's the only player going out.

This is just going to have to wait.


So FBB has changed their ruling about that? Cause it always use to work.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: NetsGM on February 03, 2005, 07:43:41 AM
I don't know if they changed their ruling I'm just telling you what the program is telling me, that he cannot be traded because he was signed/traded less than 60 days ago.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 03, 2005, 08:03:38 AM
:( Out of the 5 leagues i was in, twas also my 1st time to encountered this kind of situation. The 60 day trade rule thing kinda sucks. But i understand this technical difficulty.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: HornetsGM on February 03, 2005, 09:28:12 AM
Quote from: NetsGM
Whoops, it appears I was wrong as well.  this is one where the program doesn't follow real nba rules.  A player can't be traded for 60 days after being signed/traded no matter what, even if he's the only player going out.

This is just going to have to wait.


In the past we've always allowed a 1 for 1 to go through. We already have pretty strict regulations regarding trades. I think we should continue to allow trades like that to go through despite the FBB restriction.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 03, 2005, 09:39:08 AM
Quote from: HornetsGM
Quote from: NetsGM
Whoops, it appears I was wrong as well.  this is one where the program doesn't follow real nba rules.  A player can't be traded for 60 days after being signed/traded no matter what, even if he's the only player going out.

This is just going to have to wait.


In the past we've always allowed a 1 for 1 to go through. We already have pretty strict regulations regarding trades. I think we should continue to allow trades like that to go through despite the FBB restriction.


Yeah, I proposed something like that during our past seasons. The 60 trade rule is limiting trade activities. Like in my case, the 60 day trade rule, would make me idle in trading activites. Cause i cant trade both my 3m expiring players..


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: HornetsGM on February 03, 2005, 09:55:28 AM
Quote from: SixersGM

Yeah, I proposed something like that during our past seasons. The 60 trade rule is limiting trade activities. Like in my case, the 60 day trade rule, would make me idle in trading activites. Cause i cant trade both my 3m expiring players..


I don't think the 60 day rule should be eliminated, I just think that 1 for 1 deals should be allowed to go through like in the real NBA.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 03, 2005, 10:02:19 AM
Oh..

I'd also be leaning on that. I think that would be better..


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: OldNuggetsGM on February 03, 2005, 10:12:05 AM
I hope I don't come off as an ass or anything, but I'm no longer interested in this deal.  Once I read the initial post saying it wouldn't work, I made other plans to address my areas of need, primarily through my free agent offers.  Making this trade now will affect my free agent offers, as I was taking on a small amount of money in this deal.  I apologize again for any distress caused, as I was unaware of the trade restrictions.


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 03, 2005, 10:14:44 AM
If it wont really work, i guess we've got to cancel it. BUt if it would work in someways, i would still consider this deal. I also turned down a couple of deals because of this deal. I never thought it wont work..


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: NetsGM on February 03, 2005, 11:20:05 AM
Alright, here's the ruling.

1) On future deals, I will disable the 60 day rule on 1-1 trades.
2) Since NuggetsGM no longer agrees to the trade, it can't go through.  Aso for SixersGM, don't base your strategy on something until it's finalized.  There's no way both can win in this situation.
3) As for the trade, bring it back up after free agency.  At that point NuggetsGM shouldn't be worried about adding small bits of salary, and you should be able to make it work.  After the fifth day of free agency, adding salary onto this year has no ill consequences (as all free agent signings after the 5th day of free agency are minimum salaries).


Title: Sixers-Nuggets Deal - can't work
Post by: SixersGM on February 03, 2005, 06:27:56 PM
OK.. NP

:D